Q-baby! Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: Both can be true Zactly! Trump is both!
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: This is all just so delicious. Where is @Tiberius this morning? Probably warming himself over a trash fire. Lol, well, I did have a fire going in the wood stove last night. Good morning Trumpbots, celebrating your criminal getting off today? Reminds me of Jeffery Epstein's escape from justice. Or OJ's 1 2
Foxx Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, well, I did have a fire going in the wood stove last night. Good morning Trumpbots, celebrating your criminal getting off today? Reminds me of Jeffery Epstein's escape from justice. Or OJ's mornin' libbot.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 12 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: As a non citizen of the USA I should not have a take on these proceedings but I will take the liberty of 1 comment. When did elected government officials, and many appointed officials become only loyal to a fukkin political party and not their country. The US is not far from a coup and dictatorship. The polarization from AK 47 carrying citizens, extreme open the borders and hug the world liberals, cops trained as special forces driving tanks vs minority groups, news shows who long ago gave up being neutral for the entertainment value and $$$ reporting on people who have not told the truth in their life. What use to be spin is now fake news and open lies. The pride and strength of a great nation who once talked down the Berlin wall now parties with communist leaders and praises dictators and shiiits on your friends. This whole process feels more like the Kremlin than the Hill. Again I am not a US citizen and post this with the greatest respect to my many US friends. You're a canadian? Well, at least now your utterly ######ed Bills takes are understandable.
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, well, I did have a fire going in the wood stove last night. Good morning Trumpbots, celebrating your criminal getting off today? Reminds me of Jeffery Epstein's escape from justice. Or OJ's You'll feel better after a bowl of borscht, comrade. Hillary can always use an extra sycophant by the way.
dubs Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 10 hours ago, njbuff said: The Democrats are losing their minds over the supposed acquittal. Gee that’s a fvicking shock. don’t you have to have a mind before you can lose it?
Rob's House Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Hedge said: If this is it, it just shows how lazy the Leftists have gotten. Crazy's back: They'll be declaring President Trump a rapist before their eyes have dried from Kobe's passing. 2
Albwan Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rob's House said: They'll be declaring President Trump a rapist before their eyes have dried from Kobe's passing. I was wondering if everyone forgot the beating the media scabs put on kobe back in the day over that.
Bray Wyatt Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 I have a hard time believing that he would need to provide a DNA sample in the civil case, especially when I believe his defense was it was consensual, the DNA part would prove nothing
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rob's House said: They'll be declaring President Trump a rapist before their eyes have dried from Kobe's passing. I wonder how many hours she stared into a mirror before she got that "pained but I am getting through it" look perfected?
Bob in Mich Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 11 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Address my points. Sort of demanding there for someone that doesn't really deserve that right. But, I have nothing else to do so... There have been a lot of questions and posts. If you are talking about the one where you said we don't know motivations and I can't assume guilt and should assume innocence? I will run with that for a bit and hope that is what you were talking about. I did answer that I thought we have the ability to learn motivations with documents and witnesses that the President is blocking. That fact in conjunction with what we do know from House proceedings, FOIA docs, past behavior, comments by Trump and his people on TV, and common sense, I have been convinced that Trump had primarily personal, political, election cheating motivations.
Gary M Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I wonder how many hours she stared into a mirror before she got that "pained but I am getting through it" look perfected? I think she always looks that way, she's a feminist.
B-Man Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Acquittal Friday? Lamar Alexander says 'no need for more evidence'... Three ways end could play out... BERNSTEIN: A Shameful Episode in Our History... STARR: Beware the Revenge Impeachment... GEORGE CONWAY: Defense is just one big lie... . 1
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 16 hours ago, Bob in Mich said: Yes, I am asking him/you what, in your own personal, non-legal opinion, was his actual motivation. I don't think the Senators or Managers are listening so I was hoping to just get an honest opinion. Well MY opinion really isnt relevant to anything , is it but since you want to know, I think his motivation was as Sondland said, to have them do the right thing and look into what Ukraine's role was in the 2016 election, i think Trump is pissed the Ukraine was out to get him and i cant blame him and it is also Trumps job to investigate corruption according ot a pact they have with the Ukriane. The fact Biden is running for President is irrelevant (except for the political sideshow we have going on), does Biden have immunity? Entire thing is afarce. To me clearly Biden is dirty. Biden is also a walking gaffe machine and frankly would be easy for Trump to beat him so i dont think Trunmp had some super secret Macheviallioan plot to thwart Biden because he is a candidate. Just what the appeal is for Biden is beyond me, a corrupt ol feeble minded white guy, reads like a lot of ex president we have had. 2
keepthefaith Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Hedge said: If this is it, it just shows how lazy the Leftists have gotten. Crazy's back: Well when impeachment doesn't work out it's time to circle back to sex. 4
Albwan Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Q-baby! said: Zactly! Trump is both!
Bob in Mich Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, snafu said: Trump’s reasons are what they are. Whatever he says his motives were, I think people will interpret them and make conclusions according to their own personal biases. You said yourself that you want to know whether he had honest or corrupt purposes. The truth isn’t so binary. And for this reason the motives are not material. Ask yourself honestly whether the President should be removed on such a thin pretext whereby you or anyone else can disagree over an interpretation of the President’s motives. Ask yourself whether Biden shouldn’t be investigated for corruption merely because he declared his candidacy for President. It didn’t stop anyone from questioning whether Trump was “pure” in 2016 and beyond. @keepthefaith already nearly summarized the other main reasons why mixed motives are a dangerous thing when impeaching a President. Are you going to have a test about what motives were more or less influential? Let the voters decide in November. With all due respect, were you drinking even more than me? Motivations are not material? The truth is too vague? Sorry, that seems plain silly to me. The primary reason we can't get to the bottom of the motive question is due to the WH blocking. That should enter into your thinking, imo Honestly, do you really think if Trump had all sorts of emails and texts and witnesses that could easily exonerate him, that he would really hold them back from Congress to protect future Presidents? When has he done something like that before, as opposed to what is best for Donnie ? I used a football analogy before. If there is strong suspicion that one team is paying off the officials, does it make sense to ignore that possibility, not investigate, and say, let it be decided on the field? Edited January 31, 2020 by Bob in Mich
Albwan Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: With all due respect, were drinking even more than me? Motivations are not material? The truth is too vague? Sorry, that seems plain silly to me. The primary reason we can't get to the bottom of the motive question is due to the WH blocking. That should enter into your thinking, imo Honestly, do you really think if Trump had all sorts of emails and texts and witnesses that could easily exonerate him, that he would really hold them back from Congress to protect future Presidents? When has he done something like that before, as opposed to what is best for Donnie ? I used a football analogy before. If there is strong suspicion that one team is paying off the officials, does it make sense to ignore that possibility, not investigate, and say, let it be decided on the field? Here's a basketball analogy of your posts: 1
Bob in Mich Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Well MY opinion really isnt relevant to anything , is it but since you want to know, I think his motivation was as Sondland said, to have them do the right thing and look into what Ukraine's role was in the 2016 election, i think Trump is pissed the Ukraine was out to get him and i cant blame him and it is also Trumps job to investigate corruption according ot a pact they have with the Ukriane. The fact Biden is running for President is irrelevant (except for the political sideshow we have going on), does Biden have immunity? Entire thing is afarce. To me clearly Biden is dirty. Biden is also a walking gaffe machine and frankly would be easy for Trump to beat him so i dont think Trunmp had some super secret Macheviallioan plot to thwart Biden because he is a candidate. Just what the appeal is for Biden is beyond me, a corrupt ol feeble minded white guy, reads like a lot of ex president we have had. I appreciate the reply. Of course, we disagree but thanks.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Well MY opinion really isnt relevant to anything , is it but since you want to know, I think his motivation was as Sondland said, to have them do the right thing and look into what Ukraine's role was in the 2016 election, i think Trump is pissed the Ukraine was out to get him and i cant blame him and it is also Trumps job to investigate corruption according ot a pact they have with the Ukriane. The fact Biden is running for President is irrelevant (except for the political sideshow we have going on), does Biden have immunity? Entire thing is afarce. To me clearly Biden is dirty. Biden is also a walking gaffe machine and frankly would be easy for Trump to beat him so i dont think Trunmp had some super secret Macheviallioan plot to thwart Biden because he is a candidate. Just what the appeal is for Biden is beyond me, a corrupt ol feeble minded white guy, reads like a lot of ex president we have had. Honest question, do you think Trump University was a scam business? I mean once a corrupt person, always a corrupt person. Trump University is a worse scam than anything Hunter Biden did. 1
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