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With a capable rushing attack and the rush defense woes, I can’t see Corey Liuget not dressing this week. And while it would blow this board up, I can’t see Oliver not dressing either. My guess is they will dress all five DTs. 
Could Lawson go further into this regime’s dog house and not dress? Could Murphy go from making zero impact on the field to zero impact on the inactive list?

Furthermore, with the inclement weather prediction will they dress three or four tight ends?
I have a feeling, they will only dress four WRs - Brown, Beasley, Duke, and Roberts. Also with a healthy Nsekhe and Ford, they might opt to sit a linemen to get Yeldon or Sweeney active. 

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4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

With a capable rushing attack and the rush defense woes, I can’t see Corey Liuget not dressing this week. And while it would blow this board up, I can’t see Oliver not dressing either. My guess is they will dress all five DTs. 
Could Lawson go further into this regime’s dog house and not dress? Could Murphy go from making zero impact on the field to zero impact on the inactive list?

Furthermore, with the inclement weather prediction will they dress three or four tight ends?
I have a feeling, they will only dress four WRs - Brown, Beasley, Duke, and Roberts. Also with a healthy Nsekhe and Ford, they might opt to sit a linemen to get Yeldon or Sweeney active. 

 

There is absolutely no way they only dress 4 WRs lol 

 

what inclement weather are you talking about?

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1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

 

There is absolutely no way they only dress 4 WRs lol 

 

what inclement weather are you talking about?

He said he would activate all the 4 TEs...Sweeney, Knox, Kroft and Smith

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Vince taylor, tj yeldon and rob foster sit this one out

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1 minute ago, ganesh said:

He said he would activate all the 4 TEs...Sweeney, Knox, Kroft and Smith

 

what does that have to do with anything I posted?

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5 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

There is absolutely no way they only dress 4 WRs lol 

 

what inclement weather are you talking about?


Ethan tends to rant.

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13 minutes ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said:

DT Taylor likely sits, I think, as long as Liuget is up to pace reasonably.

That's a lot to ask of a street FA picked up a few days ago. I do like what he brings though, maybe he'll see some action as I expect a heavy run gameplan on both sides.

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11 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

what does that have to do with anything I posted?

 

I assume because dressing 4 TEs makes up for only having 4 WRs

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5 minutes ago, BobChalmers said:

 

I assume because dressing 4 TEs makes up for only having 4 WRs

 

Well I wouldn't assume that at all. 

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49 minutes ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said:

DT Taylor likely sits, I think, as long as Liuget is up to pace reasonably.

 

Agreed.

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58 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

With a capable rushing attack and the rush defense woes, I can’t see Corey Liuget not dressing this week. And while it would blow this board up, I can’t see Oliver not dressing either. My guess is they will dress all five DTs. 
Could Lawson go further into this regime’s dog house and not dress? Could Murphy go from making zero impact on the field to zero impact on the inactive list?

Furthermore, with the inclement weather prediction will they dress three or four tight ends?
I have a feeling, they will only dress four WRs - Brown, Beasley, Duke, and Roberts. Also with a healthy Nsekhe and Ford, they might opt to sit a linemen to get Yeldon or Sweeney active. 

Good topic Ethan.

 

On D I agree we may see 5 DTs.  Lorax, Ed Oliver and Jordan Philips will be key to interior pass rush on passing downs.  Liuget, Star and Vince Taylor get mostly run downs and Jordan Philips as well.  We may only see 4 LBs dress with Lorax, Milano, Edmunds and Thompson as a result.  Or they go with 8 DBs sitting Johnson and Coleman if they dress 5 LBs.

 

Daboll will likley be able to victimize Browns down the middle so may see Kroft and Knox used on seam patters,.  Smith dresses as 3rd TE.

My guess at WR is Brown, Beasley, McKenzie lead in snaps with Foster or Duke as the spare.  Of course Roberts dresses so 5 here.  McKenzie and Roberts are must haves for big play potential - Roberts on STs.

7 on Oline with Long and Boettger out.   Gates and Ford are the spares again.

Yeldon sits again.  so 4 RBs and 2 Qbs.  21 on O, 22 on D and 3 STers.

 

 

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Taylor

Long

Foster 

Yeldon

Boettger

Sweeney

Coleman

 

How’s that? Not what I would do but what I think they will do. 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Taylor

Long

Foster 

Yeldon

Boettger

Sweeney

Coleman

 

How’s that? Not what I would do but what I think they will do. 

 

 

 

That is what I would do I think. I'd consider Smith down and Foster up but otherwise that is what I'd go with.

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I don't see Foster down anymore this year.  We are going to start seeing more deep shots, continuing this week.  I agree w/ @GunnerBill

 

Taylor

Long

Smith

Yeldon

Boettger

Sweeney

Coleman

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9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That is what I would do I think. I'd consider Smith down and Foster up but otherwise that is what I'd go with.

Smith is the guy I’d have out as well. I just don’t think that they will.

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4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Smith is the guy I’d have out as well. I just don’t think that they will.

 

I am not generally as down on Smith as I know you have been but actually the tape the last two weeks shows me Kroft blocking pretty well and Dawson (while he has some room to go as a pass blocker) has been a beast in run blocking and has outperformed Smith there. I just don't know at this stage if his blocking is so much ahead of theirs that he is worth a specialist spot.

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14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not generally as down on Smith as I know you have been but actually the tape the last two weeks shows me Kroft blocking pretty well and Dawson (while he has some room to go as a pass blocker) has been a beast in run blocking and has outperformed Smith there. I just don't know at this stage if his blocking is so much ahead of theirs that he is worth a specialist spot.

 

Kroft hasn't proven an ability to stay healthy and smith is still a better option than sweeney.

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1 minute ago, dneveu said:

 

Kroft hasn't proven an ability to stay healthy and smith is still a better option than sweeney.

 

Yes I am not suggesting cutting Lee Smith. I am suggesting I might be tempted to make him inactive for this Sunday because I like the matchup of Duke against their corners and I see him as the most expendable for this game.

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9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yes I am not suggesting cutting Lee Smith. I am suggesting I might be tempted to make him inactive for this Sunday because I like the matchup of Duke against their corners and I see him as the most expendable for this game.

 

I feel ya - its not like he's going to be the reason we win this game.. I just get nervous of a gameplan that can get thrown out with a kroft ankle injury or something like that.

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That is a quick turn around on Liuget. It'd be one thing if we only had three DTs, but throwing him in with only a couple days preparation with a healthy roster of DTs seems excessive. 

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2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

With a capable rushing attack and the rush defense woes, I can’t see Corey Liuget not dressing this week. And while it would blow this board up, I can’t see Oliver not dressing either. My guess is they will dress all five DTs. 
Could Lawson go further into this regime’s dog house and not dress? Could Murphy go from making zero impact on the field to zero impact on the inactive list?

Furthermore, with the inclement weather prediction will they dress three or four tight ends?
I have a feeling, they will only dress four WRs - Brown, Beasley, Duke, and Roberts. Also with a healthy Nsekhe and Ford, they might opt to sit a linemen to get Yeldon or Sweeney active. 

 

I can not imagine they would not have either Foster or McKensie dress.  Foster has been killing it on ST.

 

19 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

That is a quick turn around on Liuget. It'd be one thing if we only had three DTs, but throwing him in with only a couple days preparation with a healthy roster of DTs seems excessive. 

 

He is a vet.  He indicated he would have to "get on it"  but also even though it's a challenge, he could pick it up like "this" (finger click).

 

I imagine it all depends upon how he looks in practice.

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With everyone healthy, I think the first 4 are easy:

 

Boettger

Bates

Sweeney

Vosean Joseph

 

The other 3 will be a DB, WR and DT best guess:

Marlowe (outside chance it's Coleman)

Duke Williams (Foster stays and they use McKenzie a lot)

Taylor

 

Though Yeldon is a good possibility too. Maybe that's how they get 5 DTs active

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49 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not generally as down on Smith as I know you have been but actually the tape the last two weeks shows me Kroft blocking pretty well and Dawson (while he has some room to go as a pass blocker) has been a beast in run blocking and has outperformed Smith there. I just don't know at this stage if his blocking is so much ahead of theirs that he is worth a specialist spot.

To me, I’d just assume play an extra OL. You don’t really have to account for Smith in the pass game. He’s a good blocker but not as good as an additional OL would be in short yardage. He commits 1-2 penalties a game. I just don’t see his value? 
 

Now, I’m not terribly high on Foster either. He’s open every play. He and I have caught the same number of balls this year. His ball skills are just so poor. He does add some value as a threat though. The thought of him over the top is enough to keep the safeties back and help in the running game. I believe that matters some. I’d still take 2 shots a game down the field. I just wish that every so often it resulted in a catch or PI flag.

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