Dablitzkrieg Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Man, teams with good olines like Dallas will be a very tough matchup. Should be interesting to see if they can adjust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Yes he did. He was on ice-skates No. When they line him up tilted like that it's to open up B gap by engaging C. You can see him reach toward Kelce but the guy is too good to get caught. He's not getting moved, he's supposed to effect MLB blocker and keep Edmunds clean. He misses here but he's not getting washed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: No. When they line him up tilted like that it's to open up B gap by engaging C. You can see him reach toward Kelce but the guy is too good to get caught. He's not getting moved, he's supposed to effect MLB blocker and keep Edmunds clean. He misses here but he's not getting washed out. He missed kelce so he got washed out. He is tilted so he can affect the gap and reach kelce I get that he wasn't traditionally washed out of the play, but 1/11 had a job. He didn't and it put him on skates right out of the play When he missed kelce he should've anchored and held firm. But he kept going downfield which amplified the hole Edited November 5, 2019 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I think you’re crazy, OP. Dangerously crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He missed kelce so he got washed out. He is tilted so he can affect the gap and reach kelce I get that he wasn't traditionally washed out of the play, but 1/11 had a job. He didn't and it put him on skates right out of the play ?Yeh I agree that missed, that's his job to engage. I broke this play down like almost immediately after that game lmao...But ^^^people just see 'omg he's going sideways lol' not understanding the difference in the two plays where he's tilted, and they have been lining him up a lot this way season. He usually gets the double to be honest. The second video he's playing straight single gap control. The first one he's supposed to engage C enough to affect him getting on Edmunds immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 That’s funny cause if Star would have kept driving the LG in the direction it was going the RB would have ran right into Milano. but.... Star does a last second swim move the wrong way and now Milano and Star are basically doing nothing. Thing is, I see Milano making play repeatedly!!!! Not saying he’s perfect. But Star has done nothing. I get it, he’s a space eater and plugs things up. But he’s been pushed around by single team blocks way to much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 What’s difficult to see in these videos is the push that the offensive line gets. It’s makes a huge difference to a linebacker if the DL is getting pushed back even a little. The angles are dramatically different and not in a positive way for the linebacker! Much easier for the runner to find a lane!! In the second video without knowing the defensive call IMO Hyde got sucked in too far and couldn’t recover but I will say that Milano was too easily blocked too I wonder if this isn’t why Taylor was brought in and Peko released? Also Oliver saw far fewer snaps last week. Maybe he is dinged up some, but we wouldn’t know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: ?Yeh I agree that missed, that's his job to engage. I broke this play down like almost immediately after that game lmao...But ^^^people just see 'omg he's going sideways lol' not understanding the difference in the two plays where he's tilted, and they have been lining him up a lot this way season. He usually gets the double to be honest. The second video he's playing straight single gap control. The first one he's supposed to engage C enough to affect him getting on Edmunds immediately. Yea even without being in the huddle you really don't know 100% sure what is called. Watching hundreds of hours of tape will give you clues but every call has lineman playing different techniques and jobs Star has been tilted alot this season in the A gap and that gives him probably a slightly better angle for doubles But in the Philly video I think it's clear he was supposed to knock kelce off so Edmunds wouldn't get engaged so quick but he couldn't make the reach .. which 95% of 1 Techs don't vs kelce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 You are right to be worried about Milano. I think Edmunds continues to be a bigger problem but Milano has not played the run nearly as well this year as he did last. 16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He missed kelce so he got washed out. He is tilted so he can affect the gap and reach kelce I get that he wasn't traditionally washed out of the play, but 1/11 had a job. He didn't and it put him on skates right out of the play When he missed kelce he should've anchored and held firm. But he kept going downfield which amplified the hole This is exactly how I saw that play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Bring back Preston Brown! *ducks* seriously though, the Bills D is built to stop the pass. It’s a modern day defense, they are light up front, teams will counter by running at them. Doesn’t mean they will always lose games because of it but good enough offenses/QBs/OCs know what they are doing. Edited November 5, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I'm going to go with the majority on the board here and not pin this on one guy. It's not Star, Oliver, Milano, or Edmunds. Its a little bit of everything including some terrible DB run support - think back to White against Barkley or AP against Wallace. I'm also going to say that I'm still significantly more worried about pass rush and interceptions than I am rush defense. The Cowboys are going to steam roll us with that o-line. Maybe Baltimore too. Just be competent in rush defense in the other games and 11-5 is there for the taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: My favorite Milano. Love her agenda too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: He missed kelce so he got washed out. He is tilted so he can affect the gap and reach kelce I get that he wasn't traditionally washed out of the play, but 1/11 had a job. He didn't and it put him on skates right out of the play When he missed kelce he should've anchored and held firm. But he kept going downfield which amplified the hole It is one of my gripes with Star. I don't feel like he is a finisher. I felt it on that play and I felt it again on the play Sunday where he ends up facing his own endzone. He doesn't completely blow his assignment, he knows his job but he just doesn't finish and there are plays that he could make at the end of a down, if he just maintained his effort, that might just hold that run to fewer yards than it otherwise goes for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Edmunds is 24 games into his NFL career. Assuming he continues to "think instead of react" at seasons end, how long do you just keep saying "he is going to be fine?" You don't get two years as a starter anywhere in this league to be inconsistent and cost your team games. As for the OP, I agree it's a combination of everything, but Edmunds is more so the issue than anyone else, IMO. He may be inconsistent but I wouldn't argue he is costing us games He is a big reason we have one of the best pass defenses in the league, he swallows up the middle of the field Stuffing the run is a grown man's game. Throwback 1-2 down linebackers Hardly exist anymore. He really should improve as he gets bigger and stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Edmunds is 24 games into his NFL career. Assuming he continues to "think instead of react" at seasons end, how long do you just keep saying "he is going to be fine?" You don't get two years as a starter anywhere in this league to be inconsistent and cost your team games. As for the OP, I agree it's a combination of everything, but Edmunds is more so the issue than anyone else, IMO. I agree that he has to play better but up until the recent musical chairs at DT Edmunds HAD been playing extremely well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: She causes no problem with my d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Kuechly would fill both gaps at the same time... Then Milano and Edmunds can help out in coverage/support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Virgil said: Milano has played fantastic. He may have a few lapse plays, but so has Tre. .. AGREE.......tons of posts about he was missed during injury.....now he's back and a liability?.......SMH........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Picky picky picky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Beautiful face; crazy agenda!! I can look past her bs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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