Locomark Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: I didn't think this thread was grading the offense, but rather Allen. Do you recognize the difference? Sorry but no below average QB is 5-1. Stop blaming him for the lame play calling and coaching telling him to throw 7 yard passes all game. If you want 300 yard games, then you will have to wait for 1) another outside WR because we only have Brown. 2) another coaching staff because this one is conservative and isn’t playing KC ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: That's not a thing. F is the worst possible game. So 9 points and zero turnovers and no horrific passes is the worst possible game. Yep. For those who may need to re-calibrate your grading, this is an F. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Locomark said: Sorry but no below average QB is 5-1. Stop blaming him for the lame play calling and coaching telling him to throw 7 yard passes all game. If you want 300 yard games, then you will have to wait for 1) another outside WR because we only have Brown. 2) another coaching staff because this one is conservative and isn’t playing KC ball. Yeah I’m surprised we don’t call more deep passes seeing as how on target Josh was throwing to a wide open Andre Roberts today. 1 minute ago, Rico said: Yep. For those who may need to re-calibrate your grading, this is an F. Josh Allen is EJ with a clutch gene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Gonna go out on a limb here and say the folks giving Allen bad grades are the same ones who think Alabama would beat Miami 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: F- is the worst possible game. Allen's first half was a little better than that. Dolphins don't force turnovers. That's insane. 9 points and zero turnovers is worst possible game. He didn't even throw one stupid pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: B As Bills fans, I’m afraid we’re going to have to settle for what we’ve got. Screw. That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, GoBills808 said: Gonna go out on a limb here and say the folks giving Allen bad grades are the same ones who think Alabama would beat Miami If Josh Allen was QBing for the Dolphins, they’d almost certainly be down at halftime. Josh would probably shake it off and get them a win, and then he’d be a Super Bowl MVP favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: That's not a thing. F is the worst possible game. So 9 points and zero turnovers and no horrific passes is the worst possible game. That's not good. That's not total failure. Especially when a perfect pass gets us first and goal that Knox drops. I would give him a D (below average) for the first half. He played much better in the 2nd half. All in all I probably give me a C. He played just well enough over 4 quarters for Buffalo to come away with a W. JA definitely has the ability to make plays. He’s super exciting to watch. His inability to put any kind of touch on his passes is wearing thin on me. Everything doesn’t need to be a rocket. Never seems like anything lands softly in the bread basket for JA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Mango said: I would give him a D (below average) for the first half. He played much better in the 2nd half. All in all I probably give me a C. He played just well enough over 4 quarters for Buffalo to come away with a W. JA definitely has the ability to make plays. He’s super exciting to watch. His inability to put any kind of touch on his passes is wearing thin on me. Everything doesn’t need to be a rocket. Never seems like anything lands softly in the bread basket for JA. Name one "touch" pass he missed. He was three for three on touch passes. He missed two long balls bad. He needs to hit one or both. Those are not touch passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: That's insane. 9 points and zero turnovers is worst possible game. He didn't even throw one stupid pass. He was playing the 2019 Miami Dolphins. His first half was an F. Good Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The two "touch" passes were both perfect. One to McKenzie and one to Duke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It seems to me like he learns much better from playing then game film since his first half typically is do much worse then second half. He is not great yet but he keeps winning and we have not had to bail him out of his mistakes since week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: He was playing the 2019 Miami Dolphins. His first half was an F. Good Lord. If he played the exact same way in the second half we win 18-14. WORST POSSIBLE GAME EVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Remember when the Dolphins were clearly in cover 0 and sending the house, something Josh had seen 3-4 times before vs the Pats, and STILL couldn’t hot route or get rid of the football and took a bad sack? Is he not not allowed to check plays at the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Gonna go out on a limb here and say the folks giving Allen bad grades are the same ones who think Alabama would beat Miami With Rosen as the starter, I absolutely think Alabama is better than the Dolphins. I would also take Clemson over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: The forest is that the weakest player on our team, same as the last 20 years, is the QB and it’s apparrent every game this year. Matt Moore plays better and more consistent than Josh Allen. As long as you stay that way, the more we will keep winning. Never change, Smalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I didn't think this thread was grading the offense, but rather Allen. Do you recognize the difference? Do you? He had an underwhelming day. If you guys want to play everyone gets a trophy participation awards thats cool you guys can hand out all the above average grades you want. it wasnt good. Multiple times during the game the showed wrs open and him not even looking that way. Over throwing brown/roberts by 10 yards was bad. Had a nice throw to brown on the td and a good throw over the middle to knox which he dropped but that was above average. maybe it was above average for josh allen but not for the NFL in 2019. Happy they got the win but that wasnt above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Imagine needing a comeback against a historically bad 0-5 time. I swear, some of you would praise Allen for a comeback if the Bills beat Texas Tech by a point. And if he won the Super Bowl, you would find the most negative interpretation possible of his play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Name one "touch" pass he missed. He was three for three on touch passes. He missed two long balls bad. He needs to hit one or both. Those are not touch passes. The kid throws a fastball 95% of the time. Only throwing 3 touch passes is the problem. Cole Beasley has talked to Allen about taking some heat off the ball. He’s like Rick Vaughn. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: With Rosen as the starter, I absolutely think Alabama is better than the Dolphins. I would also take Clemson over them. Figured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: If he played the exact same way in the second half we win 18-14. WORST POSSIBLE GAME EVER! Who said "worst possible game ever"? You're the one putting words in my mouth. F- < F I gave him an F in the first half and stand by it 100%. He was putrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: With Rosen as the starter, I absolutely think Alabama is better than the Dolphins. I would also take Clemson over them. We really need a sarcasm font on here- I have no idea if this is serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Locomark said: Sorry but no below average QB is 5-1. Stop blaming him for the lame play calling and coaching telling him to throw 7 yard passes all game. If you want 300 yard games, then you will have to wait for 1) another outside WR because we only have Brown. 2) another coaching staff because this one is conservative and isn’t playing KC ball. What did mitch trubisky finish with last year? blake bortles was 13-3!!! Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: We really need a sarcasm font on here- I have no idea if this is serious. 100% Dolphins are the worst NFL team of all-time. They've been intentionally designed to lose. It's no secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Mango said: The kid throws a fastball 95% of the time. Only throwing 3 touch passes is the problem. Cole Beasley has talked to Allen about taking some heat off the ball. He’s like Rick Vaughn. Haha. But in this game he didn't miss any touch passes. The two real ones were perfect. They stood out because he doesn't normally do it. How is that possibly a criticism today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: Who said "worst possible game ever"? You're the one putting words in my mouth. F- < F I gave him an F in the first half and stand by it 100%. He was putrid. He had no turnovers and had three scoring drives- that is an F? What did you give Peterman vs SD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Remember when the Dolphins were clearly in cover 0 and sending the house, something Josh had seen 3-4 times before vs the Pats, and STILL couldn’t hot route or get rid of the football and took a bad sack? Yeah, that was one of 3 bad plays that he had today. You're right that he didn't play a perfect game. Was anyone arguing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: 100% Dolphins are the worst NFL team of all-time. They've been intentionally designed to lose. It's no secret. Fitzy is Fitzy. He has done this for ten years in a row. It looks like a trend. You realize that don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Josh Allen is EJ with a clutch gene. If his ability as a quarterback was equal to your ability to objectively and accurately assess his play - he would be working in a shoe factory 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: He had no turnovers and had three scoring drives- that is an F? What did you give Peterman vs SD? Peterman never faced the 2019 Miami Dolphins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: Yeah, that was one of 3 bad plays that he had today. You're right that he didn't play a perfect game. Was anyone arguing that? He's also supposed to know that he can break three tackles but not four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: With Rosen as the starter, I absolutely think Alabama is better than the Dolphins. I would also take Clemson over them. You haven't watched much Clemson football this year have you? Their QB is struggling and has thrown way to many INT's. He would probably throw 3 picks in the first half against the Fish. And Rosen behind an NFL line, even a depleted sucky one, would carve Clemson AND Alabama AND Ohio State up. If the pros were motivated, which means the winner gets $250,000 for each player and the loser gets nothing, the Fish beat any college football team by at least 7 TD's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: Yeah, that was one of 3 bad plays that he had today. You're right that he didn't play a perfect game. Was anyone arguing that? Some people have a hard time distinguishing what is Allen's fault and what isn't... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: That would be an 'absolutely no business playing quarterback in the NFL' grade. Like Russell Wilson had today? At home, vs a good but not remarkable Baltimore D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: You haven't watched much Clemson football this year have you? Their QB is struggling and has thrown way to many INT's. He would probably throw 3 picks in the first half against the Fish. And Rosen behind an NFL line, even a depleted sucky one, would carve Clemson AND Alabama AND Ohio State up. If the pros were motivated, which means the winner gets $250,000 for each player and the loser gets nothing, the Fish beat any college football team by at least 7 TD's. Only every single game and one live in person. 1 minute ago, Chuck Schick said: Like Russell Wilson had today? At home, vs a good but not remarkable Baltimore D? Are you comparing the Dolphins to the Ravens? Please tell me you're not that dumb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Only every single game and one live in person. And you think they could beat a Rosen QBed Dolphins team? It would be over by half time and it would be ugly for any college football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: And you think they could beat a Rosen QBed Dolphins team? It would be over by half time and it would be ugly for any college football team. Right now, no. But by January, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Only every single game and one live in person. Are you comparing the Dolphins to the Ravens? Please tell me you're not that dumb. Son, you're getting confused.....you said you gave Allen an "F"; to which someone asked "If Allen gets an F for his play today, what do you give a guy who throws a couple bad picks, takes a bunch of sacks, and doesn't score any points?" Your response: "Someone who has no business playing in the NFL". Check Wilson's stats today and tell me he doesn't belong in the NFL. The whole "Dolphins are the worst team in history" is completely ridiculous by the way. Hell, just having Fitzy as QB makes that not true. Good team..no. Worst ever? Please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I’d like to know which qb these negative Nancy’s would rather have on this team and you can’t say brady or Rogers? Also put their current 2019 regular season record after their name 36 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: We allowed 3.6 YPC. And even IF we got ran all over, that doesn’t change the fact the Bills were 3-10 on third down AND Joshy boy completed 6 passes in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Chuck Schick said: Son, you're getting confused.....you said you gave Allen an "F"; to which someone asked "If Allen gets an F for his play today, what do you give a guy who throws a couple bad picks, takes a bunch of sacks, and doesn't score any points?" Your response: "Someone who has no business playing in the NFL". Check Wilson's stats today and tell me he doesn't belong in the NFL. The whole "Dolphins are the worst team in history" is completely ridiculous by the way. Hell, just having Fitzy as QB makes that not true. Good team..no. Worst ever? Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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