2019 Playoffs. 1st round

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture

NFL PLAYOFFS STANDINGS - AFC

Division Leaders	W	L	T	DIV	CONF
Patriots	8	1	0	4-0	6-1
Ravens	6	2	0	2-1	4-2
Texans	6	3	0	2-1	5-1
Chiefs	6	3	0	2-0	4-2
Wild Card	W	L	T	DIV	CONF
Bills	6	2	0	2-1	4-1
Colts	5	3	0	2-0	4-3
In The Hunt	W	L	T	DIV	CONF
Steelers	4	4	0	1-1	4-2
Raiders	4	4	0	1-1	2-2
Jaguars	4	5	0	1-2	4-3
Titans	4	5	0	0-2	2-4
Chargers	4	5	0	0-1	2-4

 

 

ESPN page will be activated (post) week 10 /  week 11 games

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

All those teams "in the hunt" have some serious flaws.

 

Steelers - backup QB

Raiders- Zay Jones

Jags - Doug Marrone

Titans - Ryan Tannehill

Chargers - Not sure who shows up

The Bills stability is noteworthy. Nothing crazy, no drama. Just football

[Bferra13]

8 minutes ago, Antonio said:

Oh boy that Steelers Bills game has some serious potential to be a deciding factor as to how gets the wild card. 

 

We really need to have this 3 next games so we are in prime position to get it.

 

No reason the Steelers shouldn't lose this week against the Rams. Take care of business against the Stains this week and then ya got a full three game lead and tiebreaker.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

36 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

All those teams "in the hunt" have some serious flaws.

 

Steelers - backup QB

Raiders- Zay Jones

Jags - Doug Marrone

Titans - Ryan Tannehill

Chargers - Not sure who shows up

The Bills stability is noteworthy. Nothing crazy, no drama. Just football

 

That is very true.  

Even so the Steelers do not have a tough remaining schedule 3 of 8 will be against winning teams

 

REMAINING OPPONENTS: vs. Rams (5-3), at Browns (2-6), at Bengals (0-8), vs. Browns (2-6), at Cardinals (3-5-1), vs. Bills (6-2), at Jets (1-7), at Ravens (6-2)

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/upshot/nfl-playoff-picture.html

[Antonio]

32 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

No reason the Steelers shouldn't lose this week against the Rams. Take care of business against the Stains this week and then ya got a full three game lead and tiebreaker.

 

I sure hope so. But then again, the LAC had no reason to beat GB and it happened.

 

But you are right, Bills need to take care of their own business so we don´t have to worry about other teams records. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Week 10 rooting interests  This by no means says they will win. 

 

@Cleveland	vs	Buffalo
Los Angeles (LAC)	vs	@Oakland
Baltimore	vs	@Cincinnati
@Tennessee	vs	Kansas City
@Indianapolis	vs	Miami
New York (NYG)	vs	@New York (NYJ)
Los Angeles (LAR)	vs	@Pittsburgh

I just do not know who to choose between the Chargers and Raiders.  

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

If anyone cares about the NFC 

 

@Chicago	vs	Detroit
@Dallas	vs	Minnesota
@Green Bay	vs	Carolina
@New Orleans	vs	Atlanta
@San Francisco	vs	Seattle
@Tampa Bay	vs	Arizona

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Week 10 rooting interests  This by no means says they will win. 

 

@Cleveland	vs	Buffalo
Los Angeles (LAC)	vs	@Oakland
Baltimore	vs	@Cincinnati
@Tennessee	vs	Kansas City
@Indianapolis	vs	Miami
New York (NYG)	vs	@New York (NYJ)
Los Angeles (LAR)	vs	@Pittsburgh

I just do not know who to choose between the Chargers and Raiders.  

 

I disagree with rooting for Tennessee.  Kansas City is going to win that division and that doesn't impact the Bills.  Give the Titans another loss and keep knocking them down that "In The Hunt" column. As for Chargers/Raiders.  Rooting for the Chargers is probably the play right now because LA has 4 conference losses and Oakland only has 2.  However, I think the Chargers are the better football team so I could support burying them and getting them all the way out of contention.

Edited November 5, 2019 by That's No Moon

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

If anyone cares about the NFC 

 

@Chicago	vs	Detroit
@Dallas	vs	Minnesota
@Green Bay	vs	Carolina
@New Orleans	vs	Atlanta
@San Francisco	vs	Seattle
@Tampa Bay	vs	Arizona

Philly v. Dallas is shaping up to be good down the stretch with it looking like the loser of that misses out.  Packers v. Vikings is also looking good.  The NFC Deathmatch division is going to leave out a very good team potentially and watching the 49ers, Seahawks and Rams duke it out will be good entertainment and the Cardinals are a scary matchup for a lot of teams.  The NFC South is the Saints to lose.

 

The WC situation in the NFC is a beast.

Wild Card    W    L    T    DIV    CONF
Seahawks    7    2    0    2-0    4-1
Vikings    6    3    0    1-2    5-2
In The Hunt    W    L    T    DIV    CONF
Rams    5    3    0    0-2    3-3
Panthers    5    3    0    1-1    2-3
Eagles    5    4    0    1-1    3-4
Lions    3    4    1    0-2    2-2-1
Cardinals    3    5    1    0-2    2-4-1
Bears    3    5    0    1-1    2-3

 

[ComradeKayAdams]

30 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

I disagree with rooting for Tennessee.  Kansas City is going to win that division and that doesn't impact the Bills.  Give the Titans another loss and keep knocking them down that "In The Hunt" column. As for Chargers/Raiders.  Rooting for the Chargers is probably the play right now because LA has 4 conference losses and Oakland only has 2.  However, I think the Chargers are the better football team so I could support burying them and getting them all the way out of contention.

 

100% we are rooting for the Chargers. The conference loss difference with the Raiders is part of the reason, but the difference in schedule difficulty is the other. The Chargers still need to play the Chiefs twice and also the Vikings. I understand the concern for a second-half resurgence, but the Chargers are probably way too inconsistent to finish 5-1 or 6-0.

 

Yes, we are also rooting for the Chiefs over the Titans.

 

You have to assume that the Pats, Chiefs, Ravens, and Texans are making the playoffs. That leaves the Bills, Steelers, Colts, Raiders, Chargers, Titans, and Jags as the realistic competitors for those final 2 playoff spots. If the Raiders and Steelers lose Sunday and the Bills win, then the Bills will have a 3 game playoff cushion with 7 games left.

Edited November 5, 2019 by KayAdams

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

53 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

I disagree with rooting for Tennessee.  Kansas City is going to win that division and that doesn't impact the Bills.  Give the Titans another loss and keep knocking them down that "In The Hunt" column. As for Chargers/Raiders.  Rooting for the Chargers is probably the play right now because LA has 4 conference losses and Oakland only has 2.  However, I think the Chargers are the better football team so I could support burying them and getting them all the way out of contention.

 

Yeah, I was torn on which to choose on them as well as the Raiders.  I was soured on A Lynn by his parting shots and attitude. 

 

My rationalization is the Div / Conf records.   

Titans

4

5

0

0-2

2-4

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

48 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Philly v. Dallas is shaping up to be good down the stretch with it looking like the loser of that misses out.  Packers v. Vikings is also looking good.  The NFC Deathmatch division is going to leave out a very good team potentially and watching the 49ers, Seahawks and Rams duke it out will be good entertainment and the Cardinals are a scary matchup for a lot of teams.  The NFC South is the Saints to lose.

 

I am very interested in this game.      @Green Bay    vs    Carolina

Who is for real and who is the pretender?   

 

The same goes for these two matchups.  Which teams are the pretender?  

@Dallas    vs    Minnesota
@San Francisco    vs    Seattle

 

Seattle isn't what they used to be and I'm waiting for the 49ers to play real competition. 

Sure they 9ers crushed the Panthers.  But was it a fluke? 

@Tampa Bay (2-6), @Cincinnati (0-8), Steelers (4-4), Browns (2-6, @Rams  (5-3)(what a drop off), @Redskins (1-8), @Cards  (3-5) and a narrow victory .

 

 

39 minutes ago, KayAdams said:

 

100% we are rooting for the Chargers. The conference loss difference with the Raiders is part of the reason, but the difference in schedule difficulty is the other. The Chargers still need to play the Chiefs twice and also the Vikings. I understand the concern for a second-half resurgence, but the Chargers are probably way too inconsistent to finish 5-1 or 6-0.

 

Yes, we are also rooting for the Chiefs over the Titans.

 

You have to assume that the Pats, Chiefs, Ravens, and Texans are making the playoffs. That leaves the Bills, Steelers, Colts, Raiders, Chargers, Titans, and Jags as the realistic competitors for those final 2 playoff spots. If the Raiders and Steelers lose Sunday and the Bills win, then the Bills will have a 3 game playoff cushion with 7 games left.

 

One week at a  time. 

 

I want to assume that the Pats crumble and lose another 2 or 3 games.  We would all love that 

 

[That's No Moon]

26 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

I want to assume that the Pats crumble and lose another 2 or 3 games.  We would all love that 

 

I think most of the planet is ready for that to happen.

[BillsfaninSB]

Bills winning and the Steelers, Raiders and Titans losing would be a very productive weekend.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Bills winning and the Steelers, Raiders and Titans losing would be a very productive weekend.

 

that does seem to be a good scenario  

 

the bold is a must 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I just read this 

 

http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2019/REG16

 

In week 16, three of five possible match ups currently listed as TBD will be scheduled for Saturday on NFL Network: Houston at Tampa Bay, Buffalo at New England, Detroit at Denver, Oakland at LA Chargers, and San Francisco at LA Rams. Start times and Saturday games for week 16 will be announced no later than following week 10, with the non-Saturday games to be played on Sunday.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Lets go Chargers!!!  ???

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-playoff-projection-cowboys-lead-nfc-east-now-but-that-could-change-163857970.html

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Nice Job CBS 

As of today   https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace

 

AFC tiebreakers:

• Houston is ahead of Kansas City based on head to head (1-0).
• Pittsburgh is ahead of Oakland based on conference record (4-2 to the Raiders' 2-2).
• Jacksonville is ahead of Tennessee in the AFC South based on head to head (1-0).
• Jacksonville is ahead of the L.A. Chargers based on conference record (4-3 to the Chargers' 2-4).
• Tennessee is ahead of the L.A. Chargers based on head to head (1-0).
• Miami is ahead of the N.Y. Jets in the AFC East based on head to head (1-0).

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace

 

SEED	TEAM	DIVISION	RECORD
1	New England	East	8-1
2	Baltimore	North	7-2
3	Houston	South	6-3
4	Kansas City	West	6-4
5	Buffalo	East	6-3
6	Pittsburgh	North	5-4

AFC tiebreakers:

• Pittsburgh and Oakland are ahead of Indianapolis based on head-to-head sweep (2-0).
• Pittsburgh is ahead of Oakland based on conference record (4-2 to the Raiders' 3-2).
• Denver is ahead of Cleveland based on head to head (1-0).
• Miami is ahead of the N.Y. Jets based on head to head (1-0).

 

NFC tiebreakers:

• Green Bay is ahead of New Orleans based on conference record (4-1 to the Saints' 5-2).
• Dallas is ahead of Philadelphia in the NFC East based on head to head (1-0).
• The L.A. Rams are ahead of Philadelphia and Carolina based on conference record (Rams' 3-3 to the Eagles' 3-4 and the Panthers' 2-4).
• Philadelphia is ahead of Carolina based on conference record (Eagles' 3-4 to the Panthers' 2-4).

 

Stop the DOOM and GLOOM the Bills still have the #5 seed.  

The LOSS to the Browns was not devastating. 

The Chiefs LOST to Ryan Tannehill 

the  (then) 1-7 Falcons TROMPED on the 7-1 Saints

Steelers beat the Rams . not that impressive as the Rams are not what they used to be.  What happened to the Wonder Kid Head Coach? 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

The ESPN playoff machine s/b up tomorrow (after tonight's last game of week 10) 

 

The remaining schedule for the teams in the hunt 

Buffalo	6-3
WEEK 11	@MIAMI
WEEK 12	DENVER
WEEK 13	@DALLAS
WEEK 14	BALTIMORE
WEEK 15	@PITTSBURGH
WEEK 16	NE Patriots
WEEK 17	N.Y. JETS
Steelers	5-4
WEEK 11	@CLEVELAND
WEEK 12	@CINCINNATI
WEEK 13	CLEVELAND
WEEK 14	@ARIZONA
WEEK 15	BUFFALO
WEEK 16	@N.Y. JETS
WEEK 17	@BALTIMORE
Oakland	5-4
WEEK 11	CINCINNATI
WEEK 12	@N.Y. JETS
WEEK 13	@KANSAS CITY
WEEK 14	TENNESSEE
WEEK 15	JACKSONVILLE
WEEK 16	@CHARGERS
WEEK 17	@DENVER
Colts	5-4
WEEK 11	JACKSONVILLE
WEEK 12	@HOUSTON
WEEK 13	TENNESSEE
WEEK 14	@TAMPA BAY
WEEK 15	@NEW ORLEANS
WEEK 16	CAROLINA
WEEK 17	@JACKSONVILLE
Titans	5-5
WEEK 11	BYE
WEEK 12	JACKSONVILLE
WEEK 13	@INDIANAPOLIS
WEEK 14	@OAKLAND
WEEK 15	HOUSTON
WEEK 16	NEW ORLEANS
WEEK 17	@HOUSTON

Edited November 11, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[uticaclub]

On 11/5/2019 at 6:17 AM, Captain Hindsight said:

All those teams "in the hunt" have some serious flaws.

 

Steelers - backup QB

Raiders- Zay Jones

Jags - Doug Marrone

Titans - Ryan Tannehill

Chargers - Not sure who shows up

The Bills stability is noteworthy. Nothing crazy, no drama. Just football

Rudolph is playing better than Allen

Jones might be benched

Marrone is a better coach than McDermott

Tannehill sucks

Rivers is done

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

6 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Rudolph is playing better than Allen

Jones might be benched

Marrone is a better coach than McDermott

Tannehill sucks

Rivers is done

 

 

LOL to the bold. 

 

If Dougie were so great he'd still be in Buffalo

Tannehill doesn't suck, he's just not "great" 

Honesty - Zay Jones has little to do with the Raiders success or failures

[uticaclub]

Just now, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

LOL to the bold. 

 

If Dougie were so great he'd still be in Buffalo

Tannehill doesn't suck, he's just not "great" 

Honesty - Zay Jones has little to do with the Raiders success or failures

Marrone quit the Bills. No one knows what really happened.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Marrone quit the Bills. No one knows what really happened.

 

Marrone was an idiot with his High Tempo Offense for a ROOKIE QB.   Where is that High Tempo Offense now?  did he abandon it?  

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/33849/bills-playoff-road-more-treacherous-after-loss-at-browns

After entering the week as a clear front-runner for one of the AFC's two wild-card spots, the Bills' loss makes things interesting as the Colts, Raiders and Jaguars are now all within a game of Buffalo. The Bills play the Dolphins and Broncos in their next two games before facing a tough stretch against the Cowboys, Ravens and Patriots in a four-week span.

A road to the playoffs still exists but it just got a lot more treacherous.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

for those interested in the NFC

 

NFC
SEED	TEAM	DIVISION	RECORD
1	San Francisco	West	8-1
2	Green Bay	North	8-2
3	New Orleans	South	7-2
4	Dallas	East	5-4
5	Seattle	West	8-2
6	Minnesota	North	7-3
STILL ALIVE
SEED	TEAM	DIVISION	RECORD
7	Los Angeles	West	5-4
8	Philadelphia	East	5-4
9	Carolina	South	5-4

 

NFC tiebreakers:

• Dallas is ahead of Philadelphia in the NFC East based on head to head (1-0).
• The L.A. Rams are ahead of Philadelphia and Carolina based on conference record (Rams' 3-3 to the Eagles' 3-4 and the Panthers' 2-4).
• Philadelphia is ahead of Carolina based on conference record (Eagles' 3-4 to the Panthers' 2-4).

 

AFC 

SEED	TEAM	DIVISION	RECORD
1	New England	East	8-1
2	Baltimore	North	7-2
3	Houston	South	6-3
4	Kansas City	West	6-4
5	Buffalo	East	6-3
6	Pittsburgh	North	5-4

 

STILL ALIVE
SEED	TEAM	DIVISION	RECORD
7	Oakland	West	5-4
8	Indy	East	5-4
9	Tenny	South	5-4

AFC tiebreakers:

• Pittsburgh and Oakland are ahead of Indianapolis based on head-to-head sweep (2-0).
• Pittsburgh is ahead of Oakland based on conference record (4-2 to the Raiders' 3-2).
• Denver is ahead of Cleveland based on head to head (1-0).
• Miami is ahead of the N.Y. Jets based on head to head (1-0).

Edited November 12, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Still waiting for the ESPN machine to be live for week 11. 

in the mean time 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Need the browns to give Pittsburgh that 5th loss Thursday 

[Bills fan since 87]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Still waiting for the ESPN machine to be live for week 11. 

in the mean time 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings/_/view/playoff

 

 

 

I just love that thing 

[Zerovoltz]

Playoff machine is live now.  

[GunnerBill]

At a first stab I have us in at 9-7 as the 6th seed (only remaining wins v Jets, Dolphins and Broncos) but that does rely on predicting a choke job by Oakland at Mile High in week 17 (which I can kind of see as a possibility) and squeezes us in on the "record in common games" tiebreaker. That scenario has Pittsburgh in at 10-6 in the 5th seed but there are plenty of 50-50 games left on their schedule and I probably gave them too many of them. That said, this season might be the finest coaching job of Mike Tomlin's career. All those folks who have argued he isn't a top 10 coach and is just a rah-rah guy might want to look at how he has taken a team shorn of its three offensive stars (including their future HoF QB) and started 0-3 and turned the ship around.

 

I have the 6th seed Bills at the 3rd seed Texans in the wildcard round and the 5th seed Steelers at the 4th seed Chiefs. Ravens #1 and Patriots #2.

 

For completeness my NFC seeds are: Green Bay #1; Seattle #2; New Orleans #3; Dallas #4; Minnesota #5; San Francisco #6.

 

If you get the Bills to 10-6 with a win against the Steelers (I'd say the most winnable of the other remaining games) then it is almost impossible that they miss out. If you get them to 10-6 by beating Dallas then you still need the Oakland final day choke job or else they can miss out on Conference record.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I tried my best to put honest picks (my Pick-em sucks this season so... grain of salt) and not the usual make someone lose out scenario. 

 

At one point the Raiders had the 5th seed but dropped back to the 6th and The Ravens get had the #1 seed, because I gave the Pats 1 more loss. AND not against Buffalo. 

 

Cravens Projected 14-2

Putrids Projected 14-2

Houston Projected 11-5

Chefs  Projected 11-5 

Buffalo Projected 10-6 

Faders Projected 9-7 

 

IF the Steelers win against CLE this week then they get the 6th seed 

Edited November 13, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[Zerovoltz]

I was running through several scenarios.  It’s plausible you get an NFC team go 11-5 and miss the playoffs.  

 

I ran several with my interest being KC, but Buffalo really has got to find a way to 10 to get in.  The way the schedule works out for Cleveland, Pittsburg and Oakland ....I think it takes 10.  

 

Also, I tend to think the AFC south cannibalizes itself, but if JAX or Indy got on a roll, in division games, that would add one more threat.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

19 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

I was running through several scenarios.  It’s plausible you get an NFC team go 11-5 and miss the playoffs.  

 

I ran several with my interest being KC, but Buffalo really has got to find a way to 10 to get in.  The way the schedule works out for Cleveland, Pittsburg and Oakland ....I think it takes 10.  

 

Also, I tend to think the AFC south cannibalizes itself, but if JAX or Indy got on a roll, in division games, that would add one more threat.

10 wins should be a lock.  
should be. 
 

If the Ravens go 13-3 they could keep the Stillers out.  
 

the big mystery is how good is Oakland 

[Orlando Tim]

On 11/11/2019 at 12:26 PM, uticaclub said:

Rudolph is playing better than Allen

Jones might be benched

Marrone is a better coach than McDermott

Tannehill sucks

Rivers is done

 

Marrone is not a better coach then McDermott- that is ridiculous- the rest I can not agree or disagree with because I have not watched a lot.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Basically, as I understand it using NYT, we go 4-3 and we're in, go 3-4 and its 50-50.

[uticaclub]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Marrone is not a better coach then McDermott- that is ridiculous- the rest I can not agree or disagree with because I have not watched a lot.

You just admitted that you haven’t watched a lot but are saying that a guy that coached in the AFC Championship isn’t better than a guy that’s struggles mightily against teams with winning records  

[transplantbillsfan]

Still think the Bills get to at least 10 wins and get in as the 5 seed.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Young: College offense won't work for Lamar Jackson in the long run

ESPN Vid.  No link to post ^ 

ROOTING interests 

Buffalo	vs	@Miami
@Cleveland	vs	Pittsburgh
@Indianapolis	vs	Jacksonville
@Minnesota	vs	Denver
@Washington	vs	New York (NYJ)
@Baltimore	vs	Houston
@Oakland	vs	Cincinnati
New England	vs	@Philadelphia
Kansas City	vs	@Los Angeles (LAC)
Dallas	vs	@Detroit
New Orleans	vs	@Tampa Bay
@Carolina	vs	Atlanta
@San Francisco	vs	Arizona
@Los Angeles (LAR)	vs	Chicago

[Metal Man]

The ESPN tool is a lot of fun to mess around with.

 

Worst scenario I uncovered was the Bills getting to 11-5 and missing the playoffs. Wasn't that difficult really as the Steelers and Raiders have an easier path than the Bills. It basically all came down to that Bills/Steelers game in week 15. Assuming the Bills stay competitive that game is going to be a big one.

[CLTbills]

After just playing with the Bills' schedule, it's pretty simple. The big one is Pittsburgh. Win the ones we are supposed to win (MIA, DEN, NYJ) and lose the ones we are supposed to (DAL, NE, BAL). We lose to PIT, our playoff shot is 50/50. Beat them and it's 98%.

 

Of course, I think we are capable of beating Dallas or New England.... But not if we play like we did in Cleveland.

Edited November 14, 2019 by CLTbills

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

37 minutes ago, Metal Man said:

The ESPN tool is a lot of fun to mess around with.

 

Worst scenario I uncovered was the Bills getting to 11-5 and missing the playoffs. Wasn't that difficult really as the Steelers and Raiders have an easier path than the Bills. It basically all came down to that Bills/Steelers game in week 15. Assuming the Bills stay competitive that game is going to be a big one.

 

It sure is.   Even more so when you are protecting the WC instead of chasing it. 

 

 

 

The NYTimes Win % will fluctuate wildly as each of the next 6 to 8 weeks pass.  

 

So I try not to worry about those fluctuations as long as my guesses work out 

 

The homer in me thinks a Thanksgiving day Win is possible for Buffalo