Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 8:43 PM, Trogdor said: I think it's the DBs, because everyone in college looks good deep. Tebow used to light people up like that. You have to be accurate with it in the NFL because coverage is better. He played in a super weak conference too. Expand I agree; however in college, he was hitting tight windows on his deep balls in traffic. Wasn't like WRs were as wide open as some of the Bills WRs have been on some of his deep throws. Coaches need to figure out why he's constantly overthrowing roughly 5 yards on most of the deep balls.
Luka Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) Still dealing with drops. Not as bad as last year but Knox took a TD away and about 30 yards today. Guys have seemed to step up when needed this year for the most part though. One of the big reasons for the improved completion percentage. Edited October 20, 2019 by Luka
billsfan89 Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 8:49 PM, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: I agree; however in college, he was hitting tight windows on his deep balls in traffic. Wasn't like WRs were as wide open as some of the Bills WRs have been on some of his deep throws. Coaches need to figure out why he's constantly overthrowing roughly 5 yards on most of the deep balls. Expand The coaches are probably coaching him to avoid turnovers. Put a little more on the throws is the safer play. I think he finds the balance.
SJDK Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 8:50 PM, transplantbillsfan said: 62.4% at 7.0 YPA. For those keeping track. 4th game was a massive regression. Allen just looked rattled the entire game. Big bounce back against the Titans. Other than the horrible Interception he was really good. Weird game against Miami but Allen is showing he's pretty clutch late in the game. Expand F Grant Gordon from nfl.com
Stank_Nasty Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 10 of 11 in the 2nd half with a 98 yd drive. ....he’ll be alright. 2
njbuff Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 Does this W count as another 4th quarter comeback for Allen? Debatable on the surface, but is it legit?
transplantbillsfan Posted October 20, 2019 Author Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 9:13 PM, Stank_Nasty said: 10 of 11 in the 2nd half with a 98 yd drive. ....he’ll be alright. Expand With that 4th quarter I think Allen might push himself up to #1 or #2 in QB passer rating in the 4th quarter this year. 1
BuffaloButt Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 9:16 PM, njbuff said: Does this W count as another 4th quarter comeback for Allen? Debatable on the surface, but is it legit? Expand Yes. Why wouldn't it? Bills were down to start the 4th and we won. 1
No Cease Fires Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 8:32 PM, transplantbillsfan said: I don't understand what's going on with Allen's deep ball. I thought last year he was fairly accurate on his deep passes. This year he's just awful on them. Always overthrowing his guys. On the flip side, we've seen significant improvement on all his other passes. Knox needs to get out of his own head. Expand Allen was inaccurate on 30+ yard passes last year as well. I just don't think he has developed that part of his game at the pro level yet. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted October 20, 2019 Author Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 9:16 PM, njbuff said: Does this W count as another 4th quarter comeback for Allen? Debatable on the surface, but is it legit? Expand If the Bills were behind going into the 4th quarter, yes it technically counts.
Gray Beard Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 An aspect of completion percentage that may make the results a little biased is the inclusion of throw away passes. If the receivers aren’t open or the QB is under pressure, then throwing it away is often the smart decision. Josh is learning to throw it away, but he still tries to run for it or force it in too often. Today there was a screen play that the Dolphins had covered. A veteran QB would throw the ball at the feet of the intended receiver. Josh ran for it for no gain. By running, that play doesn’t add to his incompletion percentage, but maybe he should have thrown it into the ground and lived with the incomplete pass. Less chance for injury, and less energy expended. The flip side is that he might have been able to make yardage by running, but in this case there were many Dolphins in the area. It was unlikely that he would make yardage, and he might have gotten himself hurt.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 20, 2019 Author Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) And with Allen going 6/7 for 67 yards, 2 TDs and 0 INTs in the 4th quarter today, I think we'll all take that 4th quarter 146.1 Passer Rating. Curious where @jrober38 has been the last couple wins. Edited October 20, 2019 by transplantbillsfan 1
Bangarang Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) We went from hating Tyrod for protecting the ball and not making mistakes to praising Allen for playing the same way. kidding kinda ?♂️ Edited October 20, 2019 by Bangarang
Stank_Nasty Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) On 10/20/2019 at 10:04 PM, Bangarang said: We went from hating Tyrod for protecting the ball and not making mistakes to praising Allen for playing the same way. ?♂️ Expand If you wanna be simple with it, sure.... how about some context though. How many times did Tyrod end hot and bring the bills back? Were you ever confident with him at the helm while were down late in a game? i feel like you are better than this. Unless you are being overly simple just for the sake of argument Edited October 20, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 4
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 10:10 PM, Stank_Nasty said: If you wanna be simple with it, sure.... how about some context though. How many times did Tyrod end hot and bring the bills back? We you every confident with him at the helm while were down late in a game? i feel like you are better than this. Unless you are being overly simple just for the sake of argument Expand Tools gonna tool. 1 1
Fixxxer Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 10:04 PM, Bangarang said: We went from hating Tyrod for protecting the ball and not making mistakes to praising Allen for playing the same way. kidding kinda ?♂️ Expand except throwing for TDs in the 4th QTR, Allen is just like Tyrod... 1 1
KD in CA Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 This is fine and all, but as someone pointed out in another thread, 62.4% is good for 24th among passers. Add in that he's 25th in ypa and he's still got a long way to go as a passer. 60% is the bare minimum in this era of the NFL, it shouldn't be considered a milestone.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 10:15 PM, KD in CA said: This is fine and all, but as someone pointed out in another thread, 62.4% is good for 24th among passers. Add in that he's 25th in ypa and he's still got a long way to go as a passer. 60% is the bare minimum in this era of the NFL, it shouldn't be considered a milestone. Expand The point of this thread is to rub the facts in the noses of those who said he'd never be better than a 50% passer. Ya know?
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 10:11 PM, Fixxxer said: except throwing for TDs in the 4th QTR, Allen is just like Tyrod... Expand And being one of the reasons the Bills win. But yeah Allen is just like Tyrod. ?♂️ 2
KD in CA Posted October 20, 2019 Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) On 10/20/2019 at 10:11 PM, Fixxxer said: except throwing for TDs in the 4th QTR, Allen is just like Tyrod... Expand If he'd have put together 4th quarter scoring drives every week, I suspect most here would have been fine with Tyrod. Allen (17 games) and Tyrod (67 games) each have 4 career fourth quarter comebacks. On 10/20/2019 at 10:16 PM, Joe in Winslow said: The point of this thread is to rub the facts in the noses of those who said he'd never be better than a 50% passer. Ya know? Expand Oh, sorry! Edited October 20, 2019 by KD in CA 1
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