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Greg Roman Stole our play!!!!

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6 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

 

That was Marcus Murphy. 

 

Thanks, I guess humor doesn't penetrate the message boards so well

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5 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

 

Thanks, I guess humor doesn't penetrate the message boards so well

 

Humor? Message? ....penetrate?!?!

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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Sorry? You think we were still running Greg Roman's offense three coordinators after he left?

 

Yea. We weren't.

No, that's not what I am saying at all. I'm saying He (Greg Roman) is running the same offense he ran while he was here. 

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It was Greg's offense. I accept A Lynn was probably a better playcaller. But it was Roman's offense. Roman's play design. Roman's scheme.

Yep. Well his running and blocking schemes anyway. Lynn pared the number of plays being prepped by almost 50% and it led to much better execution. 

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11 minutes ago, BigPappy said:

No, that's not what I am saying at all. I'm saying He (Greg Roman) is running the same offense he ran while he was here. 

 

But he wasn't here for the Croom play. That was last season. 

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It was Greg's offense. I accept A Lynn was probably a better playcaller. But it was Roman's offense. Roman's play design. Roman's scheme.

 

Im not sure Roman had the o line talent he needed for all of that to work. But either way- In a better place now. 

 

Rick Dennison was still the worst imo

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34 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Im not sure Roman had the o line talent he needed for all of that to work. But either way- In a better place now. 

 

Rick Dennison was still the worst imo

 

I didn't mind Dennison either. He had no talent to work with. Hackett and all of Jauron's OCs for me were the worst. 

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7 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Wow great observation on your part good job. I do think it looked a lot better when we did it though

First thing I thought of when I saw it. Maybe it works better for running QBs.

 

He was just as wide open as well.

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Why wouldn't playbooks stay with the team?    So if  coordinators leave you would still have the core of what you had spent years (perhaps) building remain in place.  

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Every single team in the NFL has that concept in their playbook

 

It's honestly a basic concept

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48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I didn't mind Dennison either. He had no talent to work with. Hackett and all of Jauron's OCs for me were the worst. 

 

Whadda yah mean?

 

That Turk Schonert offence with Trentative Edwards was legendary ;)

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But he wasn't here for the Croom play. That was last season. 

Ahhh, then I miss understood the OP's post. My bad. I'm going to blame it on my brain being fried today. LOL!!!

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8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

LOL ...the "Croom TD".

 

 

good times...

 

 

We can all call it the Croom TD because it is never likely to happen again. ;)

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11 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

Last week Ravens ( Lamar Jackson ) threw a TD pass to a wide open the TE Andrews and I was like that play looked familiar so I pulled up the BILLS game against the Vikings where Croom scored the wide open TD. Just like I thought the same play out of a different formation with the same motion.

 

 

They say its a copy cat league but damn.

 

I was just telling a friend about this yesterday. I believe last year they also "stole" the jet sweep toss TD "pass" that we ran early in the season (and several times since, including the McKenzie TD "pass" on Sunday. I remember seeing a couple teams run that play last year and thinking to myself "Bills did it first!", even though I'm sure the Bills didn't innovate that play. I'm sure it's been run before.

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37 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

We can all call it the Croom TD because it is never likely to happen again. ;)

 

exactly. 

 

At what point does McD tell the owner he can't continue to waste a roster spot and cap on this bum?

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10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Greg Roman is a top 10 OC in the league. He got fired here to save Rex and his lardy brother's arse....

 

Lardy brother's arse

Or

Brother's lardy arse

Or

Lardy brother's lardy arse?

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9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Greg Roman is a top 10 OC in the league. He got fired here to save Rex and his lardy brother's arse....

 

Maybe

 

9 hours ago, dneveu said:

 

His only issue is taking too long to get plays in. Was a problem in San Francisco as well as here. .

 

Mcvays got his guys to the line so he can see what the defense brings and we had tyrod scrambling and clapping his hands to try and get a snap off.

 

That, and his passing offense was sub-par, and was called out by players in San Fran. I believe the Bills had some weird idea of having Sanjay Lal as their "passing coordinator" or something like that.

 

Roman was/is, however, a great coordinator for the run game aspect of offense. The simple concept of pulling linemen across the formation has been a staple of his, creating a "numbers" game on outside runs. RBs with good vision and shiftiness fit well, which is a big part of why McCoy excelled under Roman.

 

This year, the Bills have been running similar concepts, pin and pull specifically, mostly with Singletary on the field. They are able to do so now with more talented and athletic offensive linemen, which is probably why we didn't see a whole lot of pulling last year (and maybe Castillo had something to do with that as well; not much pulling in 2017 either). Morse gets downfield pretty quickly, and Spain is just a bully. 

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13 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

Last week Ravens ( Lamar Jackson ) threw a TD pass to a wide open the TE Andrews and I was like that play looked familiar so I pulled up the BILLS game against the Vikings where Croom scored the wide open TD. Just like I thought the same play out of a different formation with the same motion.

 

 

They say its a copy cat league but damn.

Yep!  That was the first thing I said as soon as I saw the play!!  We should steal all the hightlight plays that work from other teams and put them in our playbook!  Maybe teams already do!!

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1 hour ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:

 

I was just telling a friend about this yesterday. I believe last year they also "stole" the jet sweep toss TD "pass" that we ran early in the season (and several times since, including the McKenzie TD "pass" on Sunday. I remember seeing a couple teams run that play last year and thinking to myself "Bills did it first!", even though I'm sure the Bills didn't innovate that play. I'm sure it's been run before.

Yea, the Bills picked that up from a host of teams who were doing it for a a few years

 

It didn't really get implemented till we scooped McKenzie and it was floating around the league for a while

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12 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Greg Roman is a top 10 OC in the league. He got fired here to save Rex and his lardy brother's arse....

Roman is great with pass option QBs for sure.

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He clearly has a subscription to NFL gamepass.

 

But seriously, I always liked Roman. I remember Shady running wild with some of his schemes. 

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13 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:

 

That, and his passing offense was sub-par, and was called out by players in San Fran. I believe the Bills had some weird idea of having Sanjay Lal as their "passing coordinator" or something like that.

Yes, he has never designed his own passing offense. I believe Harbaugh assisted there in SF, and here in Buffalo it was a team effort between David Lee and Sanjay Lal. Now in Baltimore it's Culley who's in charge of the offense through the air.

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And here's the Colts version of thievery from yesterday

 

 

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