TigerJ Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Time for a new generation of Bills players to start carving out a legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Allen Edmonds Oliver Singletary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Doomed. Anyway. 9 of 10 households probably have no idea where Sammy Watkins (already on his 3rd team) first played. Few likely knew who Kyle Williams was and couldn't name who Dareus currently plays for. It hasn't been a place for "National Power" or "Big Names" for a a long time. So what? Well we're usually a losing team. Not having elite players is part of the reason why. But I think we have some guys who could develop into elite players. Guys like White, Edmunds, Allen, and Oliver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Don’t know don’t care. I care about team results. Same, I know this team is going to win a lot of games and that is all I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo86 said: Remembering happier times when the Bills were a national brand: "Here it is in a nutshell: we’re a national brand now with Rex,” Whaley said to Don Banks of Sports Illustrated. "What I tell people is, during the combine, when Bill Belichick was walking with Rex Ryan that day? The story wasn’t about Bill Belichick, and this was right after the Patriots won the Super Bowl. The story was about Rex Ryan wearing Thurman Thomas’ jersey. When would you ever have thought that? That’s all you’ve got to say. "Before, it was, ‘Oh, it’s just Buffalo,’ and all about how we settled for someone in our head coaching hiring," Whaley continued. "We didn’t settle this time. We got what we were looking for. And I know this much, I truly believe there is a Rex Effect." https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/buffalo-bills-rex-ryan-head-coach-national-brand-081815 Whaley’s idiotness in a nutshell in that quote. Thank god both Whaley and Ryan are nowhere near this franchise anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Billznut said: Whaley’s idiotness in a nutshell in that quote. Thank god both Whaley and Ryan are nowhere near this franchise anymore. I was amazed by the lengths Bills' fans would go to defend those two. Sometimes the worst lies are the ones you tell yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 A different question: do the Bills have a top-15 player at any position on the offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I can't believe Beane didn't factor in Shady's star power before he cut him. What an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, BigDingus said: Even though Shady looked to be past his prime, he was still a household name known around the country. With him being released, who is their a player left who's name, jersey, personality, etc. brings attention to the team by themselves alone? When McBeane took over, we had Sammy Watkins, LeSean McCoy, Marcell Dareus, and arguably Kyle Williams. We got rid of Watkins prior to the regular season starting, eventually picked up Kelvin Benjamin (who wasn't a "star" but was at least well known), then proceeded to trade or cut them, with Williams eventually retiring. Yes, I know we all know Jerry Hughes, he's great, but most people don't know a thing about him (not like he brings a lot of attention to himself either, which I'm fine with). Most NFL fans tend to at least know the starting QB for each team, so Allen may be at least generally known, but aside from him we really don't have any recognition anymore. At this point, I think the 1 year rental RB in Frank Gore is our biggest "star." Ed Oliver could be the bigger name, but I'm not so sure many people associate him with the Bills or even remember he's a part of this team. Every time I discuss the Bills with my NFL friends, they seem to have already forgotten all about him. Hell, I still hear far more about Nathan Peterman when discussing the Bills than anyone else by a LONG shot. With that being said, who's most likely to jump to that status & become the name people will bring up most often in relation to the Bills? If they had to name a handful of players, who would be those names? I'd say Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver (if he isn't already), Tremaine Edmunds and obvious Josh Allen if he can even just manage a solid year overall. Outside of that, we're pretty low on personality & national recognition, which I'm not saying is a "bad" thing, it just is what it is. The only bad thing is whether we're considered a desirable team for viewership potential. The lack of nationally televised games, or even games outside of the 1:00/12:00 CST time slot is heavily influenced by not only prior record, but by star power. Market matters, but if a team has a lot of personality & intrigue surrounding its players, it becomes a hot candidate for prime time games. ************************* TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players? This is a reason i am not expecting big things from this team, there is no star power or play makers at any position. Beanne signed a bunch of average free agents and hyped them up that they we're lucky to get them. This team is no more talented then Dick Jauron teams, i hope i am wrong and will be happy to say so but i am not seeing it. One of the least talented Bills teams in years and i say 5-11 or 6-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Stars aren’t Stars until they are Stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Who effing cares? When they’re 5-0 they’ll have plenty of headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Campy said: Allen and Beasley are probably the Bills most well known players. I'd think so. Then Frank Gore, then a huge drop-off to whoever 4 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I’d say probably Hyde is the most known name player on this team nationally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 If we are good that means Josh Allen is a star. Hope for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 23 hours ago, Revealingstorm said: Who on defense? I would argue the Bills have no stars at the moment. If Josh can ball out this season then he'll become one. I would say maybe White and Hughes even though neither are top 10 at their position. We have some potential future stars but as of right now I think we have a group of very good players on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Did Frank Gore retire, or is he still one the team? White Gore Beasley Allen Oliver Hauschka Edmunds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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