Punching Bag Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: What really is sad is they waived Deon ‘Superman’ Cain. Boy, he’s been around for a while!... *? Dean not Deon was the ex-Princeton Safety but I am guessing you knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 7:25 AM, Kirby Jackson said: No one is questioning if he has “NFL talent.” I can’t speak for everyone but I’m questioning why he has a “NFL job.” Those 2 things are not interchangeable. Colin Kaepernick has NFL talent but no NFL job. Is a QB3/PS QB with numerous off the field incidents a better option than someone like Davis Webb? He’s a guy that people thought relatively highly of coming out as well. If Davis Webb had the EXACT same Off the field issues as Chad Kelly would he still be in the league? I doubt it. That’s where the Kelly connection comes in. It’s probably safe to say that not everyone who has NFL talent has an NFL job. Kelly has one and Kaep doesn’t because the people in charge of who gets those jobs think he should have one. That’s how the real world works, and it’s good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It’s probably safe to say that not everyone who has NFL talent has an NFL job. Kelly has one and Kaep doesn’t because the people in charge of who gets those jobs think he should have one. That’s how the real world works, and it’s good enough for me. Doesn’t mean it’s right...It just means that’s what it is. No one in the world believes that Nate Peterman is more capable of playing QB than Kaep. That’s what it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Doesn’t mean it’s right...It just means that’s what it is. No one in the world believes that Nate Peterman is more capable of playing QB than Kaep. That’s what it is now. No, Peterman isn’t better than Kaep. It’s about much more than that, though. It’s absolutely right if you believe in the rights of business owners to run their individual businesses ( legally of course) the way they see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: No, Peterman isn’t better than Kaep. It’s about much more than that, though. It’s absolutely right if you believe in the rights of business owners to run their individual businesses ( legally of course) the way they see fit. Of course I believe in that!!! Everyone does!!! It doesn’t mean that every decision made is right....no one is saying that you have to employ Kaep. No one is sayin Peterman is better. Peterman is employed. All of those are true Edited November 10, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 11/3/2019 at 11:29 PM, Buffalo716 said: I've been a player, coach and scout all my life. I have tons of friends still employed in football still playing and coaching and scouting and I still scout Oh yeah?! Prove it! What do you think of Josh Allen? We will evaluate your scouting skills now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Of course I believe in that!!! Everyone does!!! Meh. When you say everyone you mean all Americans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, BigDingus said: Oh yeah?! Prove it! What do you think of Josh Allen? We will evaluate your scouting skills now ? I think for a 23 year old QB that was very green, who I thought should sit for a year or 2 and learn he has excesses my personal expectations Buffalo hasn't developed a QB in probably 45-50 years , since Fergy.. Kelly was already a professional and was seasoned in the USFL People critic every throw from him like he's a 10 year vet. He had a lot of things to clean up coming out including footwork, ball placement, seeing the whole field His footwork can still be erratic but it's undoubtedly cleaner in the short to mid game than last season. He is making quicker decisions and his ball placement has really improved this season The deep ball is obviously a work in progress but it doesn't super concern me like others. Everybody digs the deep ball.. but most people don't realize how fickle it is and hard to complete at a good clip.. an NFL deep ball is a throw over 20 yards... I don't think Josh super struggles at 20 yarders , he isn't connecting on 40-50-60 yarders and that's difficult His mechanics are a bit off on deep balls this year and I think a full off-season of work and conditioning his body to keep the same mechanics will be big He makes hard plays for a QB look easy and sometimes easy things look hard but that is a price you pay for a super talented yet green QB.. I wasn't a huge fan when we drafted him but I never saw him live He has exceeded my expectations and I think the arrow is pointing up His intangibles are off the chart and when the games on the line he is extremely hard to stop because he can get it done with arms and legs He needs to continue to work on going through his full progressions but that comes with experience and I'm glad he's our QB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Meh. When you say everyone you mean all Americans. Does anyone else matter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Oh look, more whining about poor Collin Krapernick. How original. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: I think for a 23 year old QB that was very green, who I thought should sit for a year or 2 and learn he has excesses my personal expectations Buffalo hasn't developed a QB in probably 45-50 years , since Fergy.. Kelly was already a professional and was seasoned in the USFL People critic every throw from him like he's a 10 year vet. He had a lot of things to clean up coming out including footwork, ball placement, seeing the whole field His footwork can still be erratic but it's undoubtedly cleaner in the short to mid game than last season. He is making quicker decisions and his ball placement has really improved this season The deep ball is obviously a work in progress but it doesn't super concern me like others. Everybody digs the deep ball.. but most people don't realize how fickle it is and hard to complete at a good clip.. an NFL deep ball is a throw over 20 yards... I don't think Josh super struggles at 20 yarders , he isn't connecting on 40-50-60 yarders and that's difficult His mechanics are a bit off on deep balls this year and I think a full off-season of work and conditioning his body to keep the same mechanics will be big He makes hard plays for a QB look easy and sometimes easy things look hard but that is a price you pay for a super talented yet green QB.. I wasn't a huge fan when we drafted him but I never saw him live He has exceeded my expectations and I think the arrow is pointing up His intangibles are off the chart and when the games on the line he is extremely hard to stop because he can get it done with arms and legs He needs to continue to work on going through his full progressions but that comes with experience and I'm glad he's our QB Psssh... too many positives, now I know you're lying! Lol just messing around, appreciate your breakdown though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: No, Peterman isn’t better than Kaep. It’s about much more than that, though. It’s absolutely right if you believe in the rights of business owners to run their individual businesses ( legally of course) the way they see fit. Theory 1: He could be a starter on 4 or 5 bottom teams this season. He could be a 2nd QB on any team.. The rub: he's asking Top-15 starter money (20 million). This does not lead to a contract. Theory 2: Quote As for Kaepernick himself, he doesn't speak often, but he may well have moved past football, preferring to put his social activism first. He has not played since the 2016 season and he and Eric Reid recently reached a settlement in their collusion grievance case against the NFL for an undisclosed amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Limeaid said: Dean not Deon was the ex-Princeton Safety but I am guessing you knew that. Hey, if the Dolphins can cut Jack Nicholson’s nephew, Cain be be the ‘Man of Steel’ and still be playing football! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Someone just needs to give Chad a chance!! Everyone makes a mistake. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/03/chad-kelly-is-sued-for-assault/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Someone just needs to give Chad a chance!! Everyone makes a mistake. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/03/chad-kelly-is-sued-for-assault/ That dude had himself a NIGHT. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: That dude had himself a NIGHT. Buffalo boys know how to party Ask Kaner or Gronk or Chad... Though you are just as likely to get socked in the mouth ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Someone just needs to give Chad a chance!! Everyone makes a mistake. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/03/chad-kelly-is-sued-for-assault/ When I read this yesterday I thought "what took him so long?" Whether or not Chad did anything to the guy, you had to know how was going to sue. Probably took this long to get an attorney willing to take the case. ?♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: When I read this yesterday I thought "what took him so long?" Whether or not Chad did anything to the guy, you had to know how was going to sue. Probably took this long to get an attorney willing to take the case. ?♀️ Seems like a nose so badly broken that it takes four surgeries to properly fix is some pretty solid proof that Choad did something to the guy. Four surgeries is probably what took so long to file. I don’t know what the videographer is suing for, but seems as though should at least have that paid for. And the equipment Choad broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Someone just needs to give Chad a chance!! Everyone makes a mistake. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/03/chad-kelly-is-sued-for-assault/ He is a stud QB you know. Even though he was Mr Irrelevant--having been the final pick in 7th round--he really should have been a 2nd rounder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 54 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Seems like a nose so badly broken that it takes four surgeries to properly fix is some pretty solid proof that Choad did something to the guy. Four surgeries is probably what took so long to file. I don’t know what the videographer is suing for, but seems as though should at least have that paid for. And the equipment Choad broke. Not necessarily. It could be an incompetent doctor. Not all doctors are competent as I know very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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