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DE Jerry Hughes: Signs two-year extension

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1 minute ago, KW95 - JA17 said:

 

No worry whatsoever.  No angst.  Just think hes an average player who has hurt Bills more times than he has helped.  Go Bills!

 

You ever see those videos on Youtube of soldiers surprising their kids by coming home early from deployment, and the video has 300,000 likes but 5 dislikes, and you wonder to yourself who in the world is disliking this video?  That is you.  You are that guy.  

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34 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

Yes he has spent a whale(y) of a time here.

yes he has!  One of the few “moments in the sun” for that regime.

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Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

You ever see those videos on Youtube of soldiers surprising their kids by coming home early from deployment, and the video has 300,000 likes but 5 dislikes, and you wonder to yourself who in the world is disliking this video?  That is you.  You are that guy.  

 

Funny Stuff!

 

Takes all kinds to make the world go round!  Dont like Hughes.  Not a big deal. Go Bills! 

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This is another one of those moves that raises the floor for the Bills. They did A LOT of that this year. I think of signing like Gore, Nsekhe, Long, Gaines, Kroft, etc... Hughes is a better player than those guys but the point is the Bills eliminated, a potentially, gaping hole next year. The Bills still have a need on the edge moving forward but have 1 starting edge here already (plus maybe Murphy). 

 

They can chase a star opposite him if they want (Clowney), a role player with upside (Beasley), a solid vet (Quinn), bring back their own (Lawson) or stand pat and wait for the draft. This move eliminates a need and desperation for the Bills. Great move!!

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42 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Per Schefter

 

Bills’ DE Jerry Hughes is signing a two-year extension worth up to $23 million that includes $19.5 million guaranteed, per source.

 

..below market $$$ for an above market performer......win-win IMO......

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Just now, KW95 - JA17 said:

 

Funny Stuff!

 

Takes all kinds to make the world go round!  Dont like Hughes.  Not a big deal. Go Bills! 

 

Lol.  Bringing the balance. Love it! 

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18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Ah yea it could be that..... they could be putting some more guaranteed money on this year - I am okay with that if they are. I don't really want a deal that guarantees him more than nominal money in 2021.

Assuming there’s some sort of signing bonus - which is likely a safe bet- would accomplish that. If this years salary largely becomes signing/roster bonus, and next year mostly guaranteed it gets you there pretty quickly as it’s not that much in total dollars guaranteed 

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3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Lol.  Bringing the balance. Love it! 

 

Maybe those 5 dislikes are ex girlfriends/boyfriends, a brother in law, some drunk guy who hit the wrong thumb? 

 

Ive never liked Hughes.  Is the last stank from the former regime.  Maybe he has matured.  Last year he did calm down on the Personal Foul Penalties.  Might be a good few years under the Beane Regime!  Lets hope.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, KW95 - JA17 said:

 

Maybe those 5 dislikes are ex girlfriends/boyfriends, a brother in law, some drunk guy who hit the wrong thumb? 

 

Ive never liked Hughes.  Is the last stank from the former regime.  Maybe he has matured.  Last year he did calm down on the Personal Foul Penalties.  Might be a good few years under the Beane Regime!  Lets hope.

 

 

On twitter, Mike Tannenbaum described Hughes as the first guy his teams prepared for when planning for the Bills. He gets really good production.  I also believe sacks are overrated, except to the extent they indicate whether a player is consistently getting pressure on the QB (I can expand on this if you want).  The fact that Hughes gets that kind of consistent pressure (regardless of sacks) makes him wildly productive in my eyes. 

 

Penalties suck, but I think you are overvaluing them.  They are important, but their is not as much of a correlation between penalties and wins as people think. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is another one of those moves that raises the floor for the Bills. They did A LOT of that this year. I think of signing like Gore, Nsekhe, Long, Gaines, Kroft, etc... Hughes is a better player than those guys but the point is the Bills eliminated, a potentially, gaping hole next year. The Bills still have a need on the edge moving forward but have 1 starting edge here already (plus maybe Murphy). 

 

They can chase a star opposite him if they want (Clowney), a role player with upside (Beasley), a solid vet (Quinn), bring back their own (Lawson) or stand pat and wait for the draft. This move eliminates a need and desperation for the Bills. Great move!!

My hope and their hope probably is Trent Murphy beats the injury bug. 

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15 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is another one of those moves that raises the floor for the Bills. They did A LOT of that this year. I think of signing like Gore, Nsekhe, Long, Gaines, Kroft, etc... Hughes is a better player than those guys but the point is the Bills eliminated, a potentially, gaping hole next year. The Bills still have a need on the edge moving forward but have 1 starting edge here already (plus maybe Murphy). 

 

They can chase a star opposite him if they want (Clowney), a role player with upside (Beasley), a solid vet (Quinn), bring back their own (Lawson) or stand pat and wait for the draft. This move eliminates a need and desperation for the Bills. Great move!!

 

Yeah, the EDGE position is loaded in the 2020 free agent market.  Just off the top of my head, there's Clowney, Dupree, Ngakoue, Ingram, Ansah, Fowler, Griffen, Addison, and Beasley who are currently slated to become UFAs.  Then you get to the guys with enormous cap numbers like Von Miller, Chandler Jones, and Calais Campbell that may not be retained.

 

The Bills can definitely afford to go hard after any of the above guys, plus keep both Hughes and Murphy if they want to do so.

 

Kind of the same as the receiver position, where you'll see names like Green, Boyd, Edelman, Anderson, Cooper, Sanders, Thomas, and Hill all with expiring contracts. It makes for a great situation to go HUGE after the guy you like (say, Boyd), given that they (to borrow your phrasing) raised the floor of the position by adding Brown and Beasley.

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Ryan Talbot can scratch off his first "biggest questions of OTAs...."

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1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Yeah, the EDGE position is loaded in the 2020 free agent market.  Just off the top of my head, there's Clowney, Dupree, Ngakoue, Ingram, Ansah, Fowler, Griffen, Addison, and Beasley who are currently slated to become UFAs.  Then you get to the guys with enormous cap numbers like Von Miller, Chandler Jones, and Calais Campbell that may not be retained.

 

The Bills can definitely afford to go hard after any of the above guys, plus keep both Hughes and Murphy if they want to do so.

 

Kind of the same as the receiver position, where you'll see names like Green, Boyd, Edelman, Anderson, Cooper, Sanders, Thomas, and Hill all with expiring contracts. It makes for a great situation to go HUGE after the guy you like (say, Boyd), given that they (to borrow your phrasing) raised the floor of the position by adding Brown and Beasley.

 

Free agency is such a pain. Half those guys will get retained, a quarter of those that don't will get tagged, and the rest aren't worth the free agent contracts they will get.  

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1 hour ago, eball said:

Cue the “Hughes is done because he didn’t have a lot of sacks in 2018” crowd. 

 

An insightful, proactive move by Beane to take one worry off the table next offseason. 

plus he had like 100 personal foul penalties last year...this is a great signing......

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18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is another one of those moves that raises the floor for the Bills. They did A LOT of that this year. I think of signing like Gore, Nsekhe, Long, Gaines, Kroft, etc... Hughes is a better player than those guys but the point is the Bills eliminated, a potentially, gaping hole next year. The Bills still have a need on the edge moving forward but have 1 starting edge here already (plus maybe Murphy). 

 

They can chase a star opposite him if they want (Clowney), a role player with upside (Beasley), a solid vet (Quinn), bring back their own (Lawson) or stand pat and wait for the draft. This move eliminates a need and desperation for the Bills. Great move!!

The team is starting to fill out with McBeane players. With this regime there is an order and understandable rational for personnel decisions. Even when one doesn't agree with an individual move at least you can understand why it was made. There is a structure and thoughtfulness to the roster building that didn't exist before Whaley and under him. In less than three years of this regime's lifespan it's amazing how much the football operation  has been revamped and transformed. organization 

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1 hour ago, HOUSE said:
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Great

38 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What was he was due to earn before this extension? Where are we with regards to the Cap?

we're fine with the cap...let's focus on the field

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4 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Free agency is such a pain. Half those guys will get retained, a quarter of those that don't will get tagged, and the rest aren't worth the free agent contracts they will get.  

 

That's why it's extremely important to have a plan ahead of time.  A good GM will be able to identify the guys that won't be retained or will likely be released for reasons other than performance, and have a good idea of how to get those guys under contract without over-committing.

 

Just take a look at the deals signed by Mitch Morse, John Brown, and Cole Beasley.  Morse's contract effectively ties him to the Bills for no more than 2 seasons, and in none of them does his cap hit consume more than 7% of the salary cap.  Brown's deal is even more flexible from that perspective.

 

If you're Buffalo, you need to be monitoring the status of guys like Boyd, who had a breakout season in 2018. If he comes close to duplicating that, then he's a guy you go after hard. The Bengals probably aren't going to pay both he and AJ Green WR1 money, which means he hits the market. You also want to watch Michael Thomas very carefully. New Orleans doesn't have a ton of cap room, and he's going to want record-setting WR money.  Now, he'll probably get tagged, but those are the kinds of situations you want to pay attention to.

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34 minutes ago, KW95 - JA17 said:

 

Funny Stuff!

 

Takes all kinds to make the world go round!  Dont like Hughes.  Not a big deal. Go Bills! 

Why not?

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Hughes, who turns 31 in August, has been the Bills' most productive and reliable pass-rusher, with 41.5 sacks over the six seasons he has been in Buffalo. Pro Football Focus graded Hughes as the NFL's seventh-best edge defender last season and the best player on Buffalo's roster.

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They can be a little loose with the wording though. I'll wait to see. If they are guaranteeing him $19m over the years when he will be 32 and 33 I think that is a really risky contract. When the cliff comes for pass rushers it tends to come quickly.

 

A fair amount of Pass rusher's tend to continue to play well into their 30s though.  It's not like running backs or WRs where speed is king.  

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40 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What was he was due to earn before this extension? Where are we with regards to the Cap?

 

After factoring in draft picks, they're about $20M under. Once in-season extensions/signings are accounted, you can probably figure that they'll roll $10M over into 2020. If the cap goes up by $10M from '19 to '20, then you're looking at around $80M in cap space once rollover money and new contracts from 2019 are factored into the equation.

 

Knock off $10M each for 2020 draft picks and 2020 in-season contract work, and the team will have about $60M to spend on free agent contracts.  Plenty of room to get a premium WR, premium EDGE rusher, and a CB2 while leaving room to fill secondary needs.

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37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This is another one of those moves that raises the floor for the Bills. They did A LOT of that this year. I think of signing like Gore, Nsekhe, Long, Gaines, Kroft, etc... Hughes is a better player than those guys but the point is the Bills eliminated, a potentially, gaping hole next year. The Bills still have a need on the edge moving forward but have 1 starting edge here already (plus maybe Murphy). 

 

They can chase a star opposite him if they want (Clowney), a role player with upside (Beasley), a solid vet (Quinn), bring back their own (Lawson) or stand pat and wait for the draft. This move eliminates a need and desperation for the Bills. Great move!!

Well stated. Solid move. Hope it pays off.  Agree with the strategy.  Edge and WR still biggest issues on the team and that assumes Allen and Edmunds progress. Wish they had done the same with Gilmore.

1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:

 

After factoring in draft picks, they're about $20M under. Once in-season extensions/signings are accounted, you can probably figure that they'll roll $10M over into 2020. If the cap goes up by $10M from '19 to '20, then you're looking at around $80M in cap space once rollover money and new contracts from 2019 are factored into the equation.

 

Knock off $10M each for 2020 draft picks and 2020 in-season contract work, and the team will have about $60M to spend on free agent contracts.  Plenty of room to get a premium WR, premium EDGE rusher, and a CB2 while leaving room to fill secondary needs.

Agreed and that is before the dump PED Murphy  contract.  

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