Bi-Partisan Support For Impeachment

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Politico‘s Andrew Desiderio attended six town halls in one day for swing-district Rep. Sean Casten (D-IL) — and discovered that voters do not like impeachment. In fact, many support President Donald Trump’s criticism of former Vice President Joe Biden.

Casten defeated long-term incumbent Republican Peter Roskam last fall in the 6th congressional district of Illinois, in the far western suburbs of Chicago, as part of a nationwide Democratic sweep of suburban districts.

 

But his left-wing policies and bare-knuckle style were never a good fit — and now he is facing pushback from constituents who are upset that he is backing Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and the left in their attempt to force Trump out of office.

 

Casten as he spoke with constituents across his district, and found that many “never thought that this particular Democrat would be leaning so forcefully into an impeachment inquiry against a Republican president.”

 

He also noted that “Trump’s efforts to paint Biden as corrupt for trying to oust a prosecutor who at one point was investigating a company tied to his son Hunter appeared to resonate among his supporters who attended Casten’s town halls — some of whom were wearing “Make America Great Again” hats and “Trump 2020” t-shirts.” One constituent “asked Casten why he wasn’t condemning Biden’s actions.”

 

Read the full Politico article here.

 

 

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Damn it!



 

 

[KRC]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Damn it!



 

 

 

Those whistleblowers are coming out fast and furious. 

[3rdnlng]

I found another whistleblower!

[Golden Goat]

#4!
 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Now, why oh why would Democrats want to keep interviews being held during impeachment hearings secret? Surely they want to be transparent and open with the American people, right? Especially if they’re doing all of this to protect us and the Constitution, as they’ve claimed.

 

Oh, ouch, we can’t stop laughing.

 

Our sides.

 

 

 

 

From the Washington Examiner:

Last week’s sessions weren’t just secret. They were super-secret. The first hearing, in which the witness was former Ukraine special envoy Kurt Volker, was held in what is known as a SCIF, which stands for sensitive compartmented information facility. It is a room in the Capitol built to be impervious to electronic surveillance so that lawmakers can discuss the nation’s most important secrets without fear of discovery.

The second hearing, in which Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson testified, was also held in the SCIF.

Were highly classified matters discussed at the Volker and Atkinson hearings? Apparently not. Neither interview was classified. And even if some classified information were involved, it would be astonishing for Democrats to believe they could attempt to remove the president on the basis of information that is not available to the public.

 

 

 

What they’re really looking for is something to campaign on, not justice.

 

Truth hurts.

 

 

 

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[Tiberius]

 

 

A majority of Americans say they endorse the decision by House Democrats to begin an impeachment inquiry of President Trump, and nearly half of all adults also say the House should take the additional step and recommend that the president be removed from office, according to a Washington Post-Schar School poll.

The findings indicate that public opinion has shifted quickly against the president and in favor of impeachment proceedings in recent weeks as information has been released about Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukrainian government officials to undertake an investigation into former vice president Joe Biden, a potential 2020 campaign rival, and Biden’s son Hunter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-majority-of-americans-say-they-endorse-opening-of-house-impeachment-inquiry-of-trump/2019/10/07/be9e0af6-e936-11e9-85c0-85a098e47b37_story.html

[B-Man]

House Democrats in red states who have come out in support of impeachment are having a rough time defending their decision back home.

Democrats who are back home for two weeks in districts that supported President Trump in 2016 are having to answer questions on impeachment – whether they like it or not.

 

At one town hall, Illinois, Rep. Sean Casten (D-IL) was confronted by a woman who “tore into” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA), accusing them of “lying their little butts off,” according to a report by Politico.

 

She said the whistleblower complaint “looks like a bunch of 13-year-old girls gossiping.”

[Buftex]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

House Democrats in red states who have come out in support of impeachment are having a rough time defending their decision back home.

Democrats who are back home for two weeks in districts that supported President Trump in 2016 are having to answer questions on impeachment – whether they like it or not.

 

At one town hall, Illinois, Rep. Sean Casten (D-IL) was confronted by a woman who “tore into” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA), accusing them of “lying their little butts off,” according to a report by Politico.

 

She said the whistleblower complaint “looks like a bunch of 13-year-old girls gossiping.”

Anything Donald Jennnifer is involved with looks like a bunch of 13-year-old girls gossiping.

[B-Man]

 

 

There Sharyl Attkisson goes again, using facts and stuff.

 

She better be careful, Twitter has a bad habit of suspending and/or blocking people who make too much sense on their platform …

 

Factually speaking Sharyl is spot on here.

 

 

 

 

This is part of what’s been making so many people nuts about the whole mess, the fact that Democrats appear to have done what they’re accusing Trump of doing. It’s not just the endless investigations that are annoying (and they are), but the absolute hypocrisy on the Left is off the freakin’ charts.

 

As usual.

 

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/10/08/whoa-shes-right-sharyl-attkisson-points-out-1-very-damning-fact-for-dems-accusing-trump-of-using-foreigners-for-political-gain/

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

New Poll Suggests Democrats’ Impeachment Fever Helping Trump With Independents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited October 8, 2019 by B-Man

[Koko78]

29 minutes ago, B-Man said:

New Poll Suggests Democrats’ Impeachment Fever Helping Trump With Independents.

 

That's unpossible! All the polls clearly say that a majority of polled Democrats think that Trump should be impeached!

[Deranged Rhino]

But I thought Democracy dies in darkness? 

 

 

 

[Foxx]

thread.

https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/1181553977160286208

 

Edited October 8, 2019 by Foxx

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, Foxx said:

https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/1181577357473275904

 

It's really not about if he's guilty or not, or what's good for the USA, it's just the GOP needs to protect the criminal president because he holds power over them. Sad times for our country 

[Foxx]

10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Edited October 8, 2019 by Foxx

[Foxx]

without a vote, it could be argued that this is all at the whim of Pelosi and Schiff and that they do not represent the will of the House. 

 

have a vote and put it all on record so we know that this isn't a witchhunt on behalf of one or two Dems.

Edited October 8, 2019 by Foxx

[Tiberius]

He's a criminal, sucking off dictators asking for help, he is unAmerican, corrupt, a sh it head to boot, but you are upset by the process, ya whatever 

[Deranged Rhino]

Tibs began 2017 promising Trump was a traitor and would be arrested. 

Tibs began 2018 promising the same. 

Tibs found out in 2019 conclusively that Trump was not a traitor and wouldn't be arrested. 

 

Now, he's just angry that he was lied to, misled, and propagandized by the very same people telling him today that "THIS TIME WE GOT TRUMP!"

 

 

 

*************

 

Could be fun

 

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

thread.

https://twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/1181553977160286208

 

 

Read some of his stream. It's interesting, but I'm not sure how the House attorneys are going to get around Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6, which severely limits who Grand Jury information may be disclosed to. Congress (even in a purported impeachment inquiry) is not one of the listed exceptions.

 

The DOJ attorney was correct: if Congress wants Mueller's Grand Jury materials, they need to change the law.

[Foxx]

20 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

Read some of his stream. It's interesting, but I'm not sure how the House attorneys are going to get around Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6, which severely limits who Grand Jury information may be disclosed to. Congress (even in a purported impeachment inquiry) is not one of the listed exceptions.

 

The DOJ attorney was correct: if Congress wants Mueller's Grand Jury materials, they need to change the law.

it will be interesting to see whether or not his ruling includes anything on the current environment under which an, 'impeachment inquiry' is being conducted. and whether or not it can be considered anything but a ruse without a vote to understand exactly where the House stands and that it just not just the whims of the Speaker.

Edited October 8, 2019 by Foxx

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Koko78 said:

 

Read some of his stream. It's interesting, but I'm not sure how the House attorneys are going to get around Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6

 

Probably just have @Crayola64 file a motion...

[Numark3]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Probably just have @Crayola64 file a motion...

oh I have someone else file my motions, maybe I can pass it along!

[B-Man]

Quote

 

Josh Holmes‏Verified account @HolmesJosh 19m19 minutes ago

The White House has a pretty strong process argument against House Dems.

 

If you want the gravity of impeachment proceedings you certainly can’t conduct them on the sly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[njbuff]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Tibs began 2017 promising Trump was a traitor and would be arrested. 

Tibs began 2018 promising the same. 

Tibs found out in 2019 conclusively that Trump was not a traitor and wouldn't be arrested. 

 

Now, he's just angry that he was lied to, misled, and propagandized by the very same people telling him today that "THIS TIME WE GOT TRUMP!"

 

 

 

*************

 

Could be fun

 

 

No, he is just your typical braindead lib. I know too many of them.

 

You call yourself Deranged, but these people take the cake, and I wish I was kidding.

[Hedge]

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Could be fun

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

32 minutes ago, Hedge said:

 

 

 

 

Looks like Gowdy really is "stepping into a new role". 

 

(Almost a 11 months to the day from #2462)

[Deranged Rhino]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1181641767755620352

 

 

[B-Man]

4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1181641767755620352

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

8 pages!!!

 

Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: 

I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process.

For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue.

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[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

8 pages!!!

 

Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: 

I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process.

For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue.

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Right, but we should uphold our principles in the face of an unprincipled enemy.

 

It's madness.

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

16 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Right, but we should uphold our principles in the face of an unprincipled enemy.

 

It's madness.

 

 

Then what the hell makes you different, and why should I support one over the other rather than bidding my time and shooting at both?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Then what the hell makes you different, and why should I support one over the other rather than bidding my time and shooting at both?

 

Because if you stand by and do nothing (based on principles) the unprincipled enemy WILL win and you'll lose anyway.

 

Get it?

 

[Tiberius]

Lindsey Graham wants to call Rudy G to testify in the Senate? Please yes! 

[3rdnlng]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

8 pages!!!

 

Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: 

I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process.

For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue.

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This was an easy read. Important, but easy.  

[Koko78]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

8 pages!!!

 

Dear Madam Speaker and Messrs. Chairmen: 

I write on behalf of President Donald J. Trump in response to your numerous, legally unsupported demands made as part of what you have labeled contrary to the Constitution of the United States and all past bipartisan precedent-as an "impeachment inquiry." As you know, you have designed and implemented your inquiry in a maimer that violates fundamental fairness and constitutionally mandated due process.

For example, you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans. You have conducted your proceedings in secret. You have violated civil liberties and the separation of powers by threatening Executive Branch officials, claiming that you will seek to punish those who exercise fundamental constitutional rights and prerogatives. All of this violates the Constitution, the rule of law, and every past precedent. Never before in our history has the House of Representatives-under the control of either political party-taken the American people down the dangerous path you seem determined to pursue.

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In a maimer?