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Tell me why this high quality young man SHOULD NOT be our pick at 9.....

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I'm not against taking him but it would be considered a reach at 9.  He's considered a mid to late 1st rounder

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He is one of the safest picks in the draft and a top 15 player in this class. But there will be better players there at #9. 

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7 minutes ago, Bakin said:

Tell me why this high quality young man SHOULD NOT be our pick at 9.....

 

...just a speculative, generic hunch.....but see McBeane trading down into the later teens+ to gain an additional 2nd...and then packaging up multiple lower picks to perhaps move into 3rd or 4th (something like that)...

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1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...just a speculative, generic hunch.....but see McBeane trading down into the later teens+ to gain an additional 2nd...and then packaging up multiple lower picks to perhaps move into 3rd or 4th (something like that)...

Nope.  He is going for superstuds with the first two picks and high ceiling  OL, TE, RB WR after that.

 

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Weaknesses
  • Initial quickness gives way to fatigue as rep continues
  • Overall play strength can improve
  • Not enough extension/separation after initial punch
  • Thick lower half missing quality anchor
  • Struggles with contact balance on down blocks
  • Lacks length and power to excel in two-gap scheme
  • Folded and collapsed when facing powerful double teams
  • Can do a better job of defeating reach blocks against him
  • Offensive linemen with length can bother him
  • Lacks length to pry off blocks
  • Average strength in playing through redirect blocks in pass rush
  • Scheme dependent

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As a DT from Clemson, he has played against some very good competition.  I feel, like many, he may be a reach at 9 - but I will "trust the process".

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15 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Nope.  He is going for superstuds with the first two picks and high ceiling  OL, TE, RB WR after that.

 

 

 

....this dude is shrewd......gotta love it...check?...call?...all in?.........

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31 minutes ago, Bakin said:

Tell me why this high quality young man SHOULD NOT be our pick at 9.....

 Inconsistent. Reminds me of Nkemdiche.

Lacks speed. 

 

This is not to say I dislike the man - but you were asking only for reasons why not to take him at 9.

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56 minutes ago, Bakin said:

Tell me why this high quality young man SHOULD NOT be our pick at 9.....

As I posted in another thread, this wouldn't surprise me.  He is #7 in Jeremiah's top 50 list.

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He should. He’s 100% a McDermott kind of guy and he’s a beast on the football field. Should probably trade back between 12-18 and pick up extra picks though if he’s your guy. He could go early because there will be a run in DTs early. But he should be there in the teens. 

 

Imo he might be the best one of the draft. Him or Lawrence. But I haven’t watched enough lawrence yet. 

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He's not a true difference maker and that's what I'm looking for at 9. Also, if you factor in need, the Bills already have a space eater. They need more of a dynamic playmaker along the defensive line. He's a good player. Not particularly interested.

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1 hour ago, Bakin said:

Tell me why this high quality young man SHOULD NOT be our pick at 9.....

Is he one of the top 9 talents?   IMO not quite.

 

Please explain why you think he should be the pick at 9.

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52 minutes ago, Lurker said:
Weaknesses
  • Initial quickness gives way to fatigue as rep continues
  • Overall play strength can improve
  • Not enough extension/separation after initial punch
  • Thick lower half missing quality anchor
  • Struggles with contact balance on down blocks
  • Lacks length and power to excel in two-gap scheme
  • Folded and collapsed when facing powerful double teams
  • Can do a better job of defeating reach blocks against him
  • Offensive linemen with length can bother him
  • Lacks length to pry off blocks
  • Average strength in playing through redirect blocks in pass rush
  • Scheme dependent

Don’t like any of his strengths then I guess. 

 

Strengths
  • Locker room leader with character that is off the charts
  • Face of the franchise personality
  • Experience as base end and defensive tackle
  • Instant snap reaction with fast hands into contact
  • Highly efficient in his movement
  • Stays under opponent's pads throughout the rep
  • Lateral quickness to disrupt in gaps
  • Can contort and slither around blocker's pads
  • Rare flexibility creates functional balance at awkward angles
  • Short area agility of a linebacker
  • Active to improve rush positioning
  • Shifts hips for optimal cornering inside the pocket
  • Can drop into space on zone-blitz calls
  • Batted down 15 passes during career

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12 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

Is he one of the top 9 talents?   IMO not quite.

 

Please explain why you think he should be the pick at 9.

I see him as a great replacement for Kyle. 

Step right into some big shoes to fill - with some big shoes. 

Very talented kid from NorthEast (Mass). 

Played against (and was superior to) the most elite college competition. 

High character locker room leader. 

 

Yes he seems to be going later than 9 in most mocks but talent wise he’s not that far off. 

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Very good player, great character guy and absolutely seems like a process- type presence that McD covets. However, I don’t see much evidence that the Bills have shown interest with visits whether private or combine meetings etc. pretty much off their radar screen as far as I can tell. 9th overall is probably too high, but he will be gone by their second round selection. 

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30 minutes ago, mrags said:

Don’t like any of his strengths then I guess. 

 

Strengths
  • Locker room leader with character that is off the charts
  • Face of the franchise personality
  • Experience as base end and defensive tackle
  • Instant snap reaction with fast hands into contact
  • Highly efficient in his movement
  • Stays under opponent's pads throughout the rep
  • Lateral quickness to disrupt in gaps
  • Can contort and slither around blocker's pads
  • Rare flexibility creates functional balance at awkward angles
  • Short area agility of a linebacker
  • Active to improve rush positioning
  • Shifts hips for optimal cornering inside the pocket
  • Can drop into space on zone-blitz calls
  • Batted down 15 passes during career

 

That wasn’t the point of this thread..

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1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

 Inconsistent. Reminds me of Nkemdiche.

Lacks speed. 

 

This is not to say I dislike the man - but you were asking only for reasons why not to take him at 9.

In terms of work ethic, effort and character he is the polar opposite of Nkemdiche.

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I like him a lot. And if we were at 15-20 I’d be thrilled. I just think there’s better talent at #9 available. 

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4 hours ago, Bangarang said:

He’s older and likely at or close to his ceiling.

 

 

Yeah it's been said before but his production leveled off after his sophomore season............he played quite well in the playoff games when everyone was watching but it's not like he was an ascending raw prospect......... I expect that much out of an over-seasoned 23 year old college senior who is going up against 20-21 year olds.  

 

It's a concern that he didn't get notably better in his final two seasons in college.

 

 If that's all he's got than he is the type of DT that makes it to free agency..........and that's not what you look for out of round 1.........you want players you CAN'T buy in UFA.......QB, pass rusher, elite LT, CB1, WR1.

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I don’t think he will ever be an elite NFL tackle, but I do think he will be a solid starter for 10 years. Personally I think we need to find some elite guys and go for the Super Bowl while Allen is on his rookie contract. 

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6 hours ago, Bakin said:

Tell me why this high quality young man SHOULD NOT be our pick at 9.....

Young man ? 

 I think he’s older then half of our roaster on defense 

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Hock, Dev White, or Oliver at 9. If all are off the board then trading down is not a bad move.

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