The_Dude Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-hours-after-introducing-green-new-deal-contradicts-herself-on-governments-role Whats going to be your plan when these savage, interloping, socialists outnumber Americans and take control? AOC is the new DNC. I’d argue she’s more powerful than Pelosi. What is going to be your fallback when non-American savages are going to the polls to vote themselves more of your money? And this is the Achilles heel of democracies / democratic republics. When the quality of citizen declines...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Move to Russia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 More TRUMP!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Thankfully I'm in my late 60s, so I won't be around when the nut jobs take over but I do feel bad for my grandchildren that they are inheriting this mess. My hope is that Christ comes sooner rather then later, otherwise America, as the greatest country, will cease to exist 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) "When the audience turned hostile Aemilianus returned the compliment. As he looked out at the angry mob Aemilianus did not see true Romans, but instead a gaggle of foreign interlopers: immigrants, freedmen, and slaves who did not know what Roman virtue and dignity meant. "How can I "," he bellowed, "who have so many times heard the battle shout of the enemy without feeling fear, be disturbed by the shouts of men like you, to whom Italy is only a stepmother?"" That text goes through my head every time I hear a liberal talk. Democrats are no longer the party that asks what they can do for their country, they're the party that votes for redistribution and entitlements. They're the people that despise our greatness and are malignantly killing us slowly. The only way to deal with cancer is to kill it before it kills you. Political violence to suppress socialism is a far kinder fate and less violent solution to standing by idly and letting it play out as history has foretold. Edited February 8, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Isn't Generation Z supposed to be more "conservative"? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Isn't Generation Z supposed to be more "conservative"? They do what Instagram and Twitter says to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, The_Dude said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-hours-after-introducing-green-new-deal-contradicts-herself-on-governments-role Whats going to be your plan when these savage, interloping, socialists outnumber Americans and take control? AOC is the new DNC. I’d argue she’s more powerful than Pelosi. What is going to be your fallback when non-American savages are going to the polls to vote themselves more of your money? And this is the Achilles heel of democracies / democratic republics. When the quality of citizen declines...... I thought you were a student of history. Please tell me how this is worse than the Communist threat from European immigrants 100 years ago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, The_Dude said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-hours-after-introducing-green-new-deal-contradicts-herself-on-governments-role Whats going to be your plan when these savage, interloping, socialists outnumber Americans and take control? AOC is the new DNC. I’d argue she’s more powerful than Pelosi. What is going to be your fallback when non-American savages are going to the polls to vote themselves more of your money? And this is the Achilles heel of democracies / democratic republics. When the quality of citizen declines...... She's a joke and most Dems will not take her crazy proposals seriously. The chances of the US adopting medicare for all or some crazy energy/environmental laws are zero if for no other reason than big health care and big oil will buy Dem politicians if needed. At the rate she's going she'll suffer a big embarrassing moment or some other beat down (figuratively) soon. The Dem party has a great chance to take the White House in 2020 unless they continue this very far left turn and they might be stupid enough to continue. The Senate will likely stay Red in 2020. Relax. Edited February 8, 2019 by keepthefaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, GG said: I thought you were a student of history. Please tell me how this is worse than the Communist threat from European immigrants 100 years ago? Backbone of the best of the Dem Party was labour, which never went commie. An unemployed majority with ideas crazier than hippies on LSD might be too voluminous to overcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I'm not worried about her or her "plan" whatsoever. On a future Rob Lowe-narrated look back on the 2010s on CNN, she'll be a nice 3 minute section of the show. (FWIW, I really like those shows.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, GG said: I thought you were a student of history. Please tell me how this is worse than the Communist threat from European immigrants 100 years ago? Ok, let me start by saying American history is boring and so I’m not the best to answer this. Second, I don’t even know if your comparison merits consideration. I mean, what we’re the demographics of European immigration then, especially from Eastern Europe? Thirdly, did we have a commie problem then? I know that France, Germany, England and Italy had “issues” but none were Bolshevik level serious. So not only am I unfamiliar with the statistics I’d need to answer that, I’m also not sure it’s a fair question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary M said: More TRUMP!!!! BREAKING NEWS From Costa Rica to New Jersey: A pipeline of illegal workers for Trump goes back years Accounts by former employees of Trump National Golf Club Bedminster add to evidence that even as President Trump vilifies workers without legal status, he has long benefited from their labor. By Joshua Partlow, Nick Miroff and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Ok, let me start by saying American history is boring and so I’m not the best to answer this. Second, I don’t even know if your comparison merits consideration. I mean, what we’re the demographics of European immigration then, especially from Eastern Europe? Thirdly, did we have a commie problem then? I know that France, Germany, England and Italy had “issues” but none were Bolshevik level serious. So not only am I unfamiliar with the statistics I’d need to answer that, I’m also not sure it’s a fair question. Boring? Mostly, but Canada’s history is far more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Ok, let me start by saying American history is boring and so I’m not the best to answer this. Second, I don’t even know if your comparison merits consideration. I mean, what we’re the demographics of European immigration then, especially from Eastern Europe? Thirdly, did we have a commie problem then? I know that France, Germany, England and Italy had “issues” but none were Bolshevik level serious. So not only am I unfamiliar with the statistics I’d need to answer that, I’m also not sure it’s a fair question. It was boring so it doesn't need to be learned? Careful of displaying your true nature, because the European immigrants at the turn of the 20th century were known to be dark, uncivilized savages who were introducing revolutionary Communism into the pure United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, GG said: It was boring so it doesn't need to be learned? Careful of displaying your true nature, because the European immigrants at the turn of the 20th century were known to be dark, uncivilized savages who were introducing revolutionary Communism into the pure United States. I study what I find interesting. Lastly, I don’t agree with you. Communism hadn’t been tried 100 years ago and so the idea would have intrigued many. I can see the patricians taking that attitude but not the masses. I don’t believe what you claim to be the case really was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I study what I find interesting. Lastly, I don’t agree with you. Communism hadn’t been tried 100 years ago and so the idea would have intrigued many. I can see the patricians taking that attitude but not the masses. I don’t believe what you claim to be the case really was. So you never heard of the Red Scare of 1919? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you never heard of the Red Scare of 1919? So you never heard of the laundromat scare of 1984 ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just now, Teddy KGB said: So you never heard of the laundromat scare of 1984 ? That's a really lame attack, but, what the heck, no, I never heard of that. Did a washing machine bit off your little ***** during that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: So you never heard of the laundromat scare of 1984 ? That was f'n awesome!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I hesitated wading into this thread, but what the hell... We are already at war as a nation today. It's an (dis)information war being waged by multiple actors both foreign and domestic. By my count we're in year 4 of what will come to be seen as WW3, it's just a type of war that's never been waged before. Multiple parties engaging in this shadow conflict want nothing more than for it to spill over into an actual shooting war between the people of this country - while other parties are working tirelessly to prevent such an escalation. Personally I'm a non violent guy. The thought of arming up to go to war with my fellow citizens is mortifying and would signal the darkness has taken the lead. Part of what drove me to go full bore into this research - and sharing it with this board and others - for the past 2+ years has been the belief that we can prevent an escalation by bringing the truth to light. The truth being that we are being purposefully lied to, manipulated, and divided to keep the sunlight from exposing the most complicit and dirtiest of actors in this saga. Through this work I've been privileged to meet dozens of men and women who believe we can make it through this quagmire without slipping into a shooting war and who have dedicated their professional and personal lives to seeing that mission through. At the start of this all, for me personally, I was told repeatedly that it's too late. The die was already cast, the darkness was on the march and the people were too lazy, uninterested, programmed to ever care enough to wake up and stop it. But that's not at all what I've seen and experienced over the past few years. I've seen more and more people waking up to the shenanigans afoot - even people who don't buy in to the whole narrative, they have seen enough to adjust their perception and start digging on their own into the issues of the day. Every day more people snap out of their slumber and start looking at the world with fresh eyes. That's how we're going to win without (additional) violence spilling over to the general population. Make no mistake, there already is an active shooting war going on in multiple theaters where real people are killing and dying for their chosen sides - and more will be needed to root out some of the worst elements. But I remain steadfast in my belief that their work can be augmented by the people sharing information and learning how to hone their own discernment. That's our role as citizens. That's the job of those willing to do the digging and sharing with others. If we handle this correctly - and so far I believe it has been going better than it may seem on the surface - there does not have to be a second American civil war. That remains my hope and goal. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you never heard of the Red Scare of 1919? Actually I had to Google...I don’t think much of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I hesitated wading into this thread, but what the hell... We are already at war as a nation today. It's an (dis)information war being waged by multiple actors both foreign and domestic. By my count we're in year 4 of what will come to be seen as WW3, it's just a type of war that's never been waged before. Multiple parties engaging in this shadow conflict want nothing more than for it to spill over into an actual shooting war between the people of this country - while other parties are working tirelessly to prevent such an escalation. Personally I'm a non violent guy. The thought of arming up to go to war with my fellow citizens is mortifying and would signal the darkness has taken the lead. Part of what drove me to go full bore into this research - and sharing it with this board and others - for the past 2+ years has been the belief that we can prevent an escalation by bringing the truth to light. The truth being that we are being purposefully lied to, manipulated, and divided to keep the sunlight from exposing the most complicit and dirtiest of actors in this saga. Through this work I've been privileged to meet dozens of men and women who believe we can make it through this quagmire without slipping into a shooting war and who have dedicated their professional and personal lives to seeing that mission through. At the start of this all, for me personally, I was told repeatedly that it's too late. The die was already cast, the darkness was on the march and the people were too lazy, uninterested, programmed to ever care enough to wake up and stop it. But that's not at all what I've seen and experienced over the past few years. I've seen more and more people waking up to the shenanigans afoot - even people who don't buy in to the whole narrative, they have seen enough to adjust their perception and start digging on their own into the issues of the day. Every day more people snap out of their slumber and start looking at the world with fresh eyes. That's how we're going to win without (additional) violence spilling over to the general population. Make no mistake, there already is an active shooting war going on in multiple theaters where real people are killing and dying for their chosen sides - and more will be needed to root out some of the worst elements. But I remain steadfast in my belief that their work can be augmented by the people sharing information and learning how to hone their own discernment. That's our role as citizens. That's the job of those willing to do the digging and sharing with others. If we handle this correctly - and so far I believe it has been going better than it may seem on the surface - there does not have to be a second American civil war. That remains my hope and goal. Oh I don’t think there will be a civil war. I’m talking brown shirting polling places. Yes it’s a Nazirific idea — but some things the Nazis did worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: BREAKING NEWS From Costa Rica to New Jersey: A pipeline of illegal workers for Trump goes back years Accounts by former employees of Trump National Golf Club Bedminster add to evidence that even as President Trump vilifies workers without legal status, he has long benefited from their labor. By Joshua Partlow, Nick Miroff and Does Trump review all the employment applications or does Putin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: Move to Russia! The Soros cubicle farm in Hungary makes it so you could walk there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: The Soros cubicle farm in Hungary makes it so you could walk there. Oh, sticking to the anti-semitic conspiracy theory are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gary M said: Does Trump review all the employment applications or does Putin? Trump reviews the applications before forwarding them on to Putin for a final determination. It's very important that the right illegal is chosen to be an overnight maid at the Trump golf resort in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 hours ago, GG said: I thought you were a student of history. Please tell me how this is worse than the Communist threat from European immigrants 100 years ago? We were not feeding communists for free and not paying for tuition so they could listen to communist university types 100 years ago. Also, 100 years ago it was very difficult for communists to network and hence coordinate efforts. Today we have the internet where a discouraging word said about communism is labeled hate speech. The internet is there also for pliable minds that will accept ideas without attempting to see if they are in fact logical. 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, sticking to the anti-semitic conspiracy theory are we? You spout that nonsense as though somebody will take you seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 hours ago, GG said: I thought you were a student of history. Why on earth would you think that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: You spout that nonsense as though somebody will take you seriously. Even Fox news banned that hateful conspiracy language https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2018/10/29/lou-dobbs-controversy-fox-bans-george-soros-conspiracy-theory-guest/1804634002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, The_Dude said: Ok, let me start by saying American history is boring and so I’m not the best to answer this. Second, I don’t even know if your comparison merits consideration. I mean, what we’re the demographics of European immigration then, especially from Eastern Europe? Thirdly, did we have a commie problem then? I know that France, Germany, England and Italy had “issues” but none were Bolshevik level serious. So not only am I unfamiliar with the statistics I’d need to answer that, I’m also not sure it’s a fair question. Germany had more than just issues with communism when it lost WWI. My grandmother was there in the East as a young woman. She knew the government approved by the Allies would not last and that all the choices were bad in terms of alternatives. The communists ran in gangs in cities such as Berlin and it was either join them or be killed. Things polarized rather quick like with being forced to choose between a monarchy, communism, and shortly afterward Nazism. She got out in the early 1920's and came to the US. A lot of my father's family anticipated extremism coming to power one way or another in post WWi Germany so they also left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Why on earth would you think that? I guess I should have phrased it as "you're someone who claims to know history, while consistently demonstrating that you know nothing of history" - as exemplified by sheer stupidity of not knowing when the communist threats began. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Even Fox news banned that hateful conspiracy language https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2018/10/29/lou-dobbs-controversy-fox-bans-george-soros-conspiracy-theory-guest/1804634002/ Way to take things out of context. I've never cited Soros religious beliefs once here. I've never referenced his heritage other than saying he was born in Hungary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Dude said: Oh I don’t think there will be a civil war. I’m talking brown shirting polling places. Yes it’s a Nazirific idea — but some things the Nazis did worked. Yes because god forbid people should vote the wrong way in this democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Germany had more than just issues with communism when it lost WWI. My grandmother was there in the East as a young woman. She knew the government approved by the Allies would not last and that all the choices were bad in terms of alternatives. The communists ran in gangs in cities such as Berlin and it was either join them or be killed. Things polarized rather quick like with being forced to choose between a monarchy, communism, and shortly afterward Nazism. She got out in the early 1920's and came to the US. A lot of my father's family anticipated extremism coming to power one way or another in post WWi Germany so they also left. Had the gREAT depression not have happened German democracy probably would have taken hold. The Nazis only got 2% of the vote in 1928, then the Depression hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Germany had more than just issues with communism when it lost WWI. My grandmother was there in the East as a young woman. She knew the government approved by the Allies would not last and that all the choices were bad in terms of alternatives. The communists ran in gangs in cities such as Berlin and it was either join them or be killed. Things polarized rather quick like with being forced to choose between a monarchy, communism, and shortly afterward Nazism. She got out in the early 1920's and came to the US. A lot of my father's family anticipated extremism coming to power one way or another in post WWi Germany so they also left. Potato Famine and Empire Loyalists for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Way to take things out of context. I've never cited Soros religious beliefs once here. I've never referenced his heritage other than saying he was born in Hungary. You didn't have to, you just repeat the lie and the lie includes the anti-semitism. Don't want to be associated with that lie? Don't spread it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Had the gREAT depression not have happened German democracy probably would have taken hold. The Nazis only got 2% of the vote in 1928, then the Depression hit. You are talking through your ass. The Depression made things hopeless but hyperinflation in Germany all throughout the 1920's made it very unlikely that a democracy would take hold during the 1930's. Probably the best that could have been hoped for was some kind of socialist government that pervaded Europe after WWII. Hitler rose once the Depression took hold and stoked all the ego's with talk of nationalism. The population was prone to a charismatic leader even if he was demented and twisted. If the German population would have been willing to let go of losing the First World War then Hitler would have vanished like a fart in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: You are talking through your ass. The Depression made things hopeless but hyperinflation in Germany all throughout the 1920's made it very unlikely that a democracy would take hold during the 1930's. Probably the best that could have been hoped for was some kind of socialist government that pervaded Europe after WWII. Hitler rose once the Depression took hold and stoked all the ego's with talk of nationalism. The population was prone to a charismatic leader even if he was demented and twisted. If the German population would have been willing to let go of losing the First World War then Hitler would have vanished like a fart in the wind. No, wrong. The hyper inflation was gone by late 20's sniff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Never mind civil war............ What about a nuclear holocost with Russia and/or China. How does 2 billion deaths lie on your conscience(spelling)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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