Beast Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 https://nypost.com/2019/01/22/andrew-cuomo-signs-bill-updating-new-yorks-abortion-law/ Disgusting. Vile. And those low life’s are on stage grinning about signing it into law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 We need to merge threads. The people in NY and VT should be ashamed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: We need to merge threads. The people in NY and VT should be ashamed. Sorry, Joe. I see yours now but didn’t know what it was about by your thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Cuomo is Catholic, no way he signs this into law, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, bilzfancy said: Cuomo is Catholic, no way he signs this into law, right? Cuomo has pushed for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 In a late term abortion (which NY just legalized) the baby is killed by poison injection and then delivery is induced. Think about that. They're delivering the child anyway. Why kill him ahead of time? Why not deliver him alive and put him up for adoption? Why does he need to come out dead? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Cuomo is Catholic, no way he signs this into law, right? He already signed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: In a late term abortion (which NY just legalized) the baby is killed by poison injection and then delivery is induced. Think about that. They're delivering the child anyway. Why kill him ahead of time? Why not deliver him alive and put him up for adoption? Why does he need to come out dead? Because these people are depraved degenerates, and completely without worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Quote Ben ShapiroVerified account @benshapiro 9h9 hours ago Cheering for the legalization of the murder of babies one moment before they enter the birth canal, as well as legalization of harming a fetus, is simply ghoulish . NY Governor Cuomo Celebrates Allowing Abortion Up Until Birth, Orders World Trade Center Lit Pink https://www.dailywire.com/news/42529/ny-governor-cuomo-celebrates-allowing-abortion-hank-berrien?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter Cuomo chortled, "The Reproductive Health Act is a historic victory for New Yorkers and for our progressive values. In the face of a federal government intent on rolling back Roe v. Wade and women's reproductive rights, I promised that we would enact this critical legislation within the first 30 days of the new session - and we got it done. I am directing that New York's landmarks be lit in pink to celebrate this achievement and shine a bright light forward for the rest of the nation to follow." This is the sound from the NY Senate chamber after the 38-24 vote to: - Add abortion to the NY Constitution - Allow non-physicians to commit abortions - Allow abortion through third trimester - Repeal protections for surviving babies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: . NY Governor Cuomo Celebrates Allowing Abortion Up Until Birth, Orders World Trade Center Lit Pink https://www.dailywire.com/news/42529/ny-governor-cuomo-celebrates-allowing-abortion-hank-berrien?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter Cuomo chortled, "The Reproductive Health Act is a historic victory for New Yorkers and for our progressive values. In the face of a federal government intent on rolling back Roe v. Wade and women's reproductive rights, I promised that we would enact this critical legislation within the first 30 days of the new session - and we got it done. I am directing that New York's landmarks be lit in pink to celebrate this achievement and shine a bright light forward for the rest of the nation to follow." This is the sound from the NY Senate chamber after the 38-24 vote to: - Add abortion to the NY Constitution - Allow non-physicians to commit abortions - Allow abortion through third trimester - Repeal protections for surviving babies A bright light for the rest of the nation to follow. God help us all. We deserve to fail as a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Disgusting and evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Disgusting and evil. Unfortunately, it's their right to be under the constitution. And there's nothing, literally nothing that can be done now to stop it in NY and VT. Coming soon to a state near you! Unfettered child murder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 When you read Cuomo's statements it is clear that the ONLY REASON that he pushed this was to attack the Trump administration and promote himself. You Can't Give A Lethal Injection To Criminals In New York, But You Can Give It To Infants As the RN Supervisor at several small hospitals throughout my 40 year career, I have been at (conservatively) over 2000 births and I am painfully aware of all the possible circumstances in these situations. Apologists will argue that the new law only makes late-term abortion legal in cases where it will save the mother's life. The problem with this argument is that it is false on every conceivable level. First, the law allows for abortions to protect the woman's life "and health." What does "health" mean? Well, anything. The law conspicuously avoids defining the term. It seems that any kind of health concern would qualify — physical health, emotional health, psychological health, financial health. The point is that the "life and health" stipulation will not effectively prevent any woman from getting an abortion for any reason at any time. Second, late-term abortion is never necessary to protect a woman's life or health. No late-term abortion has ever been committed for the sake of saving a woman's life. It has never happened and will never happen. I repeat: there is never any circumstance, ever, where a late-term abortion is medically necessary. It could be necessary, in the case of some kind of cataclysmic complication, to remove the child from his mother's womb. But it is never necessary to kill the child before removing him. There is no medical reason to take that extra step of preemptively killing the child. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Unfortunately, it's their right to be under the constitution. And there's nothing, literally nothing that can be done now to stop it in NY and VT. Coming soon to a state near you! Unfettered child murder! I think it's time to revisit Roe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I think it's time to revisit Roe. Remember: it's not mass murder if you do it with a vacuum instead of an AR-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 They couldn't leave "settled law" alone. This flies in the face of all decency and can only cause a terrible backlash for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 This is the eventual outcome of progressive feminism, in case you were wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Quote Andrew CuomoVerified account @NYGovCuomo FollowFollow @NYGovCuomo SIGNED. The #ReproductiveHealthAct is now law. Congratulations all! New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo was really, really excited to put his pen to the state’s “Reproductive Health Act” Tuesday on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade — so excited that he ordered One World Trade Center and other New York landmarks lit up in pink (?) to celebrate, not unlike when President Obama turned the White House into a rainbow to celebrate the Supreme Court’s same-sex marriage ruling. That wasn’t all though; he had a video all made up to show how New York has led the nation in pro-choice legislation, and of course former New York Senator Hillary Clinton pops up to chime in with her two cents. This guy is Catholic, right? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Quote The law for the first time allows abortions after the 24-week mark to protect the mother’s health or in cases where the fetus won’t survive. Seriously? Look...again, I'm pro-choice, but the fetus won't survive an abortion, which makes this "cases where the fetus won't survive" restriction rather transparently enabling... 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: That's not how Roe v. Wade or state sovereignty work, you ignorant slut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Allowing abortions of a "VIABLE" baby up to birth is not all that was passed. LifeNews.com @LifeNewsHQ FollowFollow @LifeNewsHQ New York just approved a new law: * allowing abortions UP TO BIRTH * no protections for babies BORN ALIVE after botched abortions * non-doctors can kill babies in abortions * a baby is NOT CONSIDERED A HUMAN BEING under law until birth * prohibits ANY pro-life laws 7:36 AM - 23 Jan 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I don’t get how anyone can be for this. It’s beyond demented. Absolutely horrific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Allowing abortions of a "VIABLE" baby up to birth is not all that was passed. LifeNews.com @LifeNewsHQ FollowFollow @LifeNewsHQ New York just approved a new law: * allowing abortions UP TO BIRTH * no protections for babies BORN ALIVE after botched abortions * non-doctors can kill babies in abortions * a baby is NOT CONSIDERED A HUMAN BEING under law until birth * prohibits ANY pro-life laws 7:36 AM - 23 Jan 2019 Here's the thing: I am absolutely not taking at face value the word of a source called "LifeNews" about an abortion bill. That's like taking Buzzfeed's word on Cohen, or CNN's word on Hillary Clinton. What does the source - the actual bill - really say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 The legislation provides a further exception to permit abortion at any point during pregnancy if a health-care practitioner deems it necessary for the mother’s life or health — the exception that was defined in Roe companion case Doe v. Bolton as “all factors — physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age — relevant to the wellbeing of the patient.” In other words, abortion will be available to women essentially on demand up to the point of birth. The RHA will also decriminalize abortion, moving it from the state’s criminal code to the public-health code. The Reproductive Health Act strips abortions from the penal code and adds the following language: "The legislature finds that comprehensive reproductive health care is a fundamental component of every individual's health, privacy and equality. "Therefore, it is the policy of the state that: "Every individual has the fundamental right to choose or refuse contraception or sterilization. Every individual who becomes pregnant has the fundamental right to choose to carry the pregnancy to term, to give birth to a child, or to have an abortion, pursuant to this article." Cuomo wants to go even further, saying earlier this month that abortion rights should be added to the state constitution. The new law will allow a licensed "health-care practitioner" acting under their scope of practice to perform an abortion when: "According to the practitioner's reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient's case: the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health." So the measure will make late-term abortions legal at the discretion of a health-care practitioner based on the viability of the fetus or if the woman's life or health is in jeopardy. And the act will codify Roe v. Wade protections into state law if the case were to be overturned by the Supreme Court, which Cuomo cited as the main reason for needing the new state law. "That's why we had to pass this law, to protect our state," Cuomo said at his bill signing. "And that's why I believe we have to go even a step further and do a constitutional amendment." Prior state law only allowed physicians to perform abortions. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2019/01/22/abortion-laws-new-york-how-they-change-immediately/2643065002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: They couldn't leave "settled law" alone. This flies in the face of all decency and can only cause a terrible backlash for them. Yep. Those who want abortion rights overturned should be celebrating. It’s this level of greed and overstepping that will generate the will required to eventually win in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, KD in CA said: Yep. Those who want abortion rights overturned should be celebrating. It’s this level of greed and overstepping that will generate the will required to eventually win in court. I won't be celebrating. New York is Gomorrah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: I won't be celebrating. New York is Gomorrah. No question, but sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) My views on abortion have evolved over the years, but it's always struck me that most sane, reasonable people are pro-life at some point. The bigger question seemed to be "when does life really commence"? I guess that's been answered now...life begins at first light. Disgusting, pathetic and sad on a crimes against humanity level. Ironically, too, it's a man who signs this bill into law. Edited January 24, 2019 by leh-nerd skin-erd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 No matter what your view is on abortion, you shouldn't be cheering any pro abortion law like what was reported. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 They felt the need to turn the wtc pink for this?? I need to move out of this state Question - so if a pregnant lady is murdered does that mean a guy can’t be charged with two counts of murder now? (Not that that’s an important part of this, just wondering if that not a live until born could have other implications) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Interesting comments on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: They felt the need to turn the wtc pink for this?? I need to move out of this state Question - so if a pregnant lady is murdered does that mean a guy can’t be charged with two counts of murder now? (Not that that’s an important part of this, just wondering if that not a live until born could have other implications) I'm not sure, but I know our local State Senator, Cathy Young, tried to sponsor an add-on bill that would exempt the situation, where a domestic violence victim lost the baby. but the democrats said no. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: I'm not sure, but I know our local State Senator, Cathy Young, tried to sponsor an add-on bill that would exempt the situation, where a domestic violence victim lost the baby. but the democrats said no. . Sounds like if they said no to that that the no would seem to extend to all cases then You got a site that shows how the vote went? I will need to file that information away for next election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: Sounds like if they said no to that that the no would seem to extend to all cases then You got a site that shows how the vote went? I will need to file that information away for next election How would your vote be changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, B-Man said: The legislation provides a further exception to permit abortion at any point during pregnancy if a health-care practitioner deems it necessary for the mother’s life or health — the exception that was defined in Roe companion case Doe v. Bolton as “all factors — physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman’s age — relevant to the wellbeing of the patient.” In other words, abortion will be available to women essentially on demand up to the point of birth. The RHA will also decriminalize abortion, moving it from the state’s criminal code to the public-health code. The Reproductive Health Act strips abortions from the penal code and adds the following language: "The legislature finds that comprehensive reproductive health care is a fundamental component of every individual's health, privacy and equality. "Therefore, it is the policy of the state that: "Every individual has the fundamental right to choose or refuse contraception or sterilization. Every individual who becomes pregnant has the fundamental right to choose to carry the pregnancy to term, to give birth to a child, or to have an abortion, pursuant to this article." Cuomo wants to go even further, saying earlier this month that abortion rights should be added to the state constitution. The new law will allow a licensed "health-care practitioner" acting under their scope of practice to perform an abortion when: "According to the practitioner's reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient's case: the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health." So the measure will make late-term abortions legal at the discretion of a health-care practitioner based on the viability of the fetus or if the woman's life or health is in jeopardy. And the act will codify Roe v. Wade protections into state law if the case were to be overturned by the Supreme Court, which Cuomo cited as the main reason for needing the new state law. "That's why we had to pass this law, to protect our state," Cuomo said at his bill signing. "And that's why I believe we have to go even a step further and do a constitutional amendment." Prior state law only allowed physicians to perform abortions. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2019/01/22/abortion-laws-new-york-how-they-change-immediately/2643065002/ @Gugny. Try reading this. We can go back to class tomorrow, I'll let you know what time it'll begin. We can only hope you learn something from the better man (me). 29 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No matter what your view is on abortion, you shouldn't be cheering any pro abortion law like what was reported. Glad you missed the gleeful shoutbox lowIQ crowd this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: How would your vote be changed? Depends on how my rep voted, if they supported this ***** they don’t get my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: Depends on how my rep voted, if they supported this ***** they don’t get my vote. Fair enough, shouldn’t have possibly put you on the spot there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Even liberals have to be offended by this, what's next, euthanasia for the elderly because they've become a burden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: They felt the need to turn the wtc pink for this?? A nod to Planned Parenthood, who undoubtedly paid for the NY majority needed to pass the law to increase their customer base. More money to PP = more money to the Dem campaign coffers. Think of all the fresh, young body parts they can sell. Where are you PPP leftists? Share your joy with the rest of your party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Prior state law only allowed physicians to perform abortions. Ah hell, what can go wrong when you let people who aren't medical doctors perform invasive surgical procedures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 We don’t have a law as jury nullification was the result of our last trials on the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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