Cam Newton Expected to Be Shut Down for the Season Due to a Throwing Shoulder Injury

[26CornerBlitz]

 

He hasn't looked right in many weeks this season.  

 

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Panthers head coach Ron Rivera confirmed that quarterback Cam Newton will not play against the Falcons this Sunday due to the right shoulder injury that’s been hampering him in recent weeks.

 

Rivera said that the decision to start Taylor Heinicke was made after consultations with the medical staff, General Manager Marty Hurney and team owner David Tepper about what gave the team the best chance to win this week. Rivera said Newton was “disappointed” about the decision, but understood the team’s thinking.

 

Edited December 20, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Mr. WEO]

Bye bye, "Riverboat Ron"...

[prissythecat]

Panthers still have a small chance to get into playoffs right?  Maybe they think the backup is going to take them places where overrated Cam didn’t .

[26CornerBlitz]

6 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

Panthers still have a small chance to get into playoffs right?  Maybe they think the backup is going to take them places where overrated Cam didn’t .

 

No.  This is foolishness. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I would hate to have Cam Newton as my starter, the Panthers are going through what the Bills did with Taylor. The Panthers would need a defense better than what the Bears have this year to even have a chance at the playoffs. The Panthers need a fresh start at the QB position.

I actually think Newton has worse field vision than Taylor if that is even possible.

[Seoulofstone]

1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I would hate to have Cam Newton as my starter, the Panthers are going through what the Bills did with Taylor. The Panthers would need a defense better than what the Bears have this year to even have a chance at the playoffs. The Panthers need a fresh start at the QB position.

 

 You find equivalence between Tyrod and Cam?

 

   I mean I get that people dislike him but he won MVP with a team where Ted Ginn was the best receiver. That year we were dominant despite a fairly weak roster. Unfortunately we lost the big game so it’s meaningless, but he pretty much carried the team that year. That’s what a franchise QB does-regardless of whether you like him. I’m thinking maybe you’re giving Tyrod a bit too much credit here.

 

Our pass D has been abysmal it’s true, but I wonder if the Bills would hold the saints to only one TD? Actually maybe they would. But we were 6-2 and considered a lock for the playoffs prior to our 6 game losing streak in the weakest part of our schedule. This happened to coincide with Cam’s shoulder injury flaring up. 

 

  

[boyst]

28 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

No.  This is foolishness. 

Is it, though?

 

His shoulder has been inconsistent. He has chucked the ball up consistently and llet it fly everywhere but has some mystery injury. Panthers fans have seen it and have made it known: newton has been a headcase this year and has no focus.

 

This is a guy who cares more about his promotion and schtick than he does his team. This is a guy who throws himself around the field too stupid to protect himself and slings the ball so much and so hard that it's a matter of time (this year or next) that he is done.  I don't think Newton will be doing much of anything by 2020. I've said it for 3 years.

 

This is the decline. He had a good run at being above average but never even touched being a good QB, though he was borderline elite at football.

 

The dudes a joke and his head is his biggest obstacle.

1 minute ago, Seoul_panther said:

 

 You find equivalence between Tyrod and Cam?

 

   I mean I get that people dislike him but he won MVP with a team where Ted Ginn was the best receiver. That year we were dominant despite a fairly weak roster. Unfortunately we lost the big game so it’s meaningless, but he pretty much carried the team that year. That’s what a franchise QB does-regardless of whether you like him. I’m thinking maybe you’re giving Tyrod a bit too much credit here.

 

Our pass D has been abysmal it’s true, but I wonder if the Bills would hold the saints to only one TD? Actually maybe they would. But we were 6-2 and considered a lock for the playoffs prior to our 6 game losing streak in the weakest part of our schedule. This happened to coincide with Cam’s shoulder injury flaring up. 

 

  

Their defense was terrible that year, yep. And he threw it how many times to get those numbers?  Dudes been blown up at the QB position more than anyone in the last 5 years except Andrew luck.

[CommonCents]

I’m not a fan of Cam but his shoulder is clearly injured. Anyone that watched the game Monday night would agree. It looked like he was trying to throw a boulder instead of a football. I was surprised he even played after watching his throwing motion. 

[Seoulofstone]

4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

Is it, though?

 

His shoulder has been inconsistent. He has chucked the ball up consistently and llet it fly everywhere but has some mystery injury. Panthers fans have seen it and have made it known: newton has been a headcase this year and has no focus.

 

This must be how Bills fans feel when people trot out the same old cliches about Allen. As a Panther fan who has watched the games I can tell you he had a completion percentage of almost 70% going into week 8. He was having the best season of his career statistically. Then the injury began to have a noticeable effect on his play. Not sure what you mean by the head case and focus comments but that is a standard accusation of Cam haters.

 

4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

This is a guy who cares more about his promotion and schtick than he does his team. This is a guy who throws himself around the field too stupid to protect himself and slings the ball so much and so hard that it's a matter of time (this year or next) that he is done.  I don't think Newton will be doing much of anything by 2020. I've said it for 3 years.

 

This is the decline. He had a good run at being above average but never even touched being a good QB, though he was borderline elite at football.

 

 I’m not fond of his persona. We will see if he’s done though. Sounds like a hot take to me. I will say I’m glad they shut him down this year. You know that people will be saying this about Allen too right? I hope for the Bills that you give Josh more help than Cam got.

 

4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

 

 Dudes been blown up at the QB position more than anyone in the last 5 years except Andrew luck.

 

    This is completely true.

[Thriftygamer83]

Cam is not a bad Quarterback MVP season and been to a Super Bowl.  Not helping his career has been Ron Rivera.  Playing him injured will shorten his career and pretty much that is what Ron has done.  

[jr1]

so sick of Cam's horrible podium fashions

[boyst]

16 minutes ago, Seoul_panther said:

 

This must be how Bills fans feel when people trot out the same old cliches about Allen. As a Panther fan who has watched the games I can tell you he had a completion percentage of almost 70% going into week 8. He was having the best season of his career statistically. Then the injury began to have a noticeable effect on his play. Not sure what you mean by the head case and focus comments but that is a standard accusation of Cam haters.

 

 

 I’m not fond of his persona. We will see if he’s done though. Sounds like a hot take to me. I will say I’m glad they shut him down this year. You know that people will be saying this about Allen too right? I hope for the Bills that you give Josh more help than Cam got.

 

 

    This is completely true.

I've seen more of Newton than any other QB in the NFL. It's all they show here.  He's never been a good QB. Never will be.

 

I've seen more of him this year than Allen, in fact.  I tried for years to like him and find something he does right but I can't find anything at the QB position he does successfully with consistency.

 

He overthrows, he throws off his back foot or off balance every other throw, he misses wide open targets, he can't place a ball to save his life.  He gets lucky, that's it.  He needs Wes Welker and Steve Smith types who can track and the ball in their routes.

 

Say what you want about just calling me a Newton Hater that's fine but I've watched more games of his than probably most any other Bills fan.  He can do some amazing things but he isn't consistent and they're more by chance than opportunities he made when throwing.  Running wise he is reckless and sacrificed his body at the most important position on the field while the Panthers have not given him any true RB. Artis Payne was gonna be good and CMC is more of a catcher than runner.

 

Edit.

Hot take. Newton will never play more than 14 games in a regular season the rest of his career.  I'd say as little as 12.

Edited December 20, 2018 by Boyst62

[Seoulofstone]

Well if you’ve watched a lot of him you will know that early in his career he had an absolute cannon of an arm. His deep throws were a true weapon and the deterioration of his arm strength has been sad to behold, a shadow of what it was and due largely to being given no investment in oline and very few weapons. The best receiver he ever had was Steve Smith at the end of his career prior to this year. Did you know he has more 4th quarter comebacks than Aaron Rodgers? Now look he’s not a top 5 QB and his mechanics and commitment to his craft are questionable. It’s completely fair to say he was overeliant on his physicality, although he was put in that position and not discouraged from it. He’s immature and his bad games are total shockers but if you think Panthers would have made the playoffs 4 times in the last 5 seasons without him I would say you are mistaken. It’s a flawed roster.

 

 You’re right that he’s been guilty of putting himself in the path of harm. For me selflessness is not a terrible quality. He’s also taken some horrific helmet hits which haven’t drawn flags. Safe to say he doesn’t fall into the golden boy category of Brady or Brees. 

Edited December 20, 2018 by Seoul_panther

[cudi]

1 hour ago, prissythecat said:

Panthers still have a small chance to get into playoffs right?  Maybe they think the backup is going to take them places where overrated Cam didn’t .

Nope they're done. I don't think that they were expecting to catch lightning in a bottle with Taylor Heinicke either.  They're just going to enjoy the last couple of jeans Fridays and call it a year.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Wo-Bah]

I never like to hear about anyone's injury, but I can't stand Cam Newton.

[Mr. WEO]

47 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

That TO late in the game against the Saints made absolutely no sense. No idea what he was thinking. 

 

Exactly.  He's a bus driver.

[JimKellyTryouts]

Cam isn't consistently accurate, but he never missed short like he has this game. His throwing motion was awful and he got shut down about two weeks too late. Whether or not that was Ron (as most believe) or Cam's decision to try and stick it out for their team is unknown. 

[pkwwjd]

1 hour ago, CommonCents said:

I’m not a fan of Cam but his shoulder is clearly injured. Anyone that watched the game Monday night would agree. It looked like he was trying to throw a boulder instead of a football. I was surprised he even played after watching his throwing motion. 

It reminded of my throwing motion when I tore my rotator cuff ... 

[VirginiaMike]

It's a good move.  Cam Newton has looked like" Cam Tucker"  when he has been throwing the ball the last few weeks and there is no reason for him to be out there.  He's not helping the team at this point.  The Panthers are not going anywhere -- get the arm back and go for next year.  

[Chuck Wagon]

Look out Alvin Kamara.

 

My fantasy roster:

 

Goff / Cam (2 QB league)

Kamara / Aaron Jones / Matt Breida

Julio / Odell / AJ Green / Josh Gordon

Gronk / Greg Olsen

 

Literally everyone but Kamara has suffered a significant injury or been completely ineffective or had an addiction issue relapse.

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Seoul_panther said:

Well if you’ve watched a lot of him you will know that early in his career he had an absolute cannon of an arm. His deep throws were a true weapon and the deterioration of his arm strength has been sad to behold, a shadow of what it was and due largely to being given no investment in oline and very few weapons. The best receiver he ever had was Steve Smith at the end of his career prior to this year. Did you know he has more 4th quarter comebacks than Aaron Rodgers? Now look he’s not a top 5 QB and his mechanics and commitment to his craft are questionable. It’s completely fair to say he was overeliant on his physicality, although he was put in that position and not discouraged from it. He’s immature and his bad games are total shockers but if you think Panthers would have made the playoffs 4 times in the last 5 seasons without him I would say you are mistaken. It’s a flawed roster.

 

 You’re right that he’s been guilty of putting himself in the path of harm. For me selflessness is not a terrible quality. He’s also taken some horrific helmet hits which haven’t drawn flags. Safe to say he doesn’t fall into the golden boy category of Brady or Brees. 

A 24 lbs cannon with no aim is rarely a dangerous weapon. 

 

 

Edit. I hate when people argue comebacks are a quarterback stat.  They're more Defense IMO. I can argue that if you'd like but I will probably be too lazy to articulate to the degree of obliteration

1 hour ago, Seoul_panther said:

Well if you’ve watched a lot of him you will know that early in his career he had an absolute cannon of an arm. His deep throws were a true weapon and the deterioration of his arm strength has been sad to behold, a shadow of what it was and due largely to being given no investment in oline and very few weapons. The best receiver he ever had was Steve Smith at the end of his career prior to this year. Did you know he has more 4th quarter comebacks than Aaron Rodgers? Now look he’s not a top 5 QB and his mechanics and commitment to his craft are questionable. It’s completely fair to say he was overeliant on his physicality, although he was put in that position and not discouraged from it. He’s immature and his bad games are total shockers but if you think Panthers would have made the playoffs 4 times in the last 5 seasons without him I would say you are mistaken. It’s a flawed roster.

 

 You’re right that he’s been guilty of putting himself in the path of harm. For me selflessness is not a terrible quality. He’s also taken some horrific helmet hits which haven’t drawn flags. Safe to say he doesn’t fall into the golden boy category of Brady or Brees. 

Oh   missed last paragraph.  The selflessness needs to be on your rookie/cheap RB's instead of your star QB who needs to pass, not run.

 

And few teams have a McCoy on their team. And he's not worth his $$$

Edited December 20, 2018 by Boyst62

[Jerome007]

He is injured but still, for all the "Josh haters", have you seen the exciting Panthers-Saints game? The Panthers TD pass was by their RB on a trick play (great play BTW I jumped up). Does Allen look so much worse especially considering he is a raw rookie? Even Brees missed some open guys as he couldn't get in his usual rhythm going with the Panthers' D all over him. "Fans" wanting perfection out of the QB, especially a rookie, are so damn annoying.

[BlueandRed]

This is the team we’re trying to duplicate? Talk about mediocre. 

[Nextmanup]

4 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I would hate to have Cam Newton as my starter, the Panthers are going through what the Bills did with Taylor. The Panthers would need a defense better than what the Bears have this year to even have a chance at the playoffs. The Panthers need a fresh start at the QB position.

I actually think Newton has worse field vision than Taylor if that is even possible.

This is  my fear with Allen; I'm afraid he will prove to be "not good enough" but not in an obvious, disastrous way, so he lingers as the starter for years.  That is worse than him flaming out IMO.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

57 minutes ago, BlueandRed said:

This is the team we’re trying to duplicate? Talk about mediocre. 

You mean the team that won the Super Bowl?

 

 

55 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

This is  my fear with Allen; I'm afraid he will prove to be "not good enough" but not in an obvious, disastrous way, so he lingers as the starter for years.  That is worse than him flaming out IMO.

 

 

Christ

 

This is a super bowl winning QB who is injured this year.

 

You know what their team is really missing?   Sean McD.

[CommonCents]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

You mean the team that won the Super Bowl?

 

 

Christ

 

This is a super bowl winning QB who is injured this year.

 

You know what their team is really missing?   Sean McD.

The corpse of Peyton Manning won that SB.

 

 

Chicken Parmy tastes so good!!

[C.Biscuit97]

5 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I would hate to have Cam Newton as my starter, the Panthers are going through what the Bills did with Taylor. The Panthers would need a defense better than what the Bears have this year to even have a chance at the playoffs. The Panthers need a fresh start at the QB position.

I actually think Newton has worse field vision than Taylor if that is even possible.

Except the whole MVP 15-1 SB season, multiple playoff berths, and rookie passing records.  Some of you are comparing Allen and his 65 qb rating to Hall of Famers and trashing Newton.  So dumb. 

 

If Allen is 80% as good as Newton, he will the second best qb in Bills history.

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

This is  my fear with Allen; I'm afraid he will prove to be "not good enough" but not in an obvious, disastrous way, so he lingers as the starter for years.  That is worse than him flaming out IMO.

 

 

Haha. It would be so bad to have Allen be Cam Newton.  You guys might want to compare Allen’s year to Cam’s rookie year.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Except the whole MVP 15-1 SB season, multiple playoff berths, and rookie passing records.  Some of you are comparing Allen and his 65 qb rating to Hall of Famers and trashing Newton.  So dumb. 

 

If Allen is 80% as good as Newton, he will the second best qb in Bills history.

I just dont understand the Bashing of Cam....I dont get it.

 

After Jim Kelly....we have had NOTHING close to Cam Newton and have hopes in our rookie QB

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I just dont understand the Bashing of Cam....I dont get it.

 

After Jim Kelly....we have had NOTHING close to Cam Newton and have hopes in our rookie QB

It’s so stupid.  I think people don’t like his attitude but when he is right, he is a top 10 qb.  He plays with a lot of crappy receivers too.

 

im hard on Allen but if he comes close to being like Newton, I will put him on the Wall of Fame myself.

8 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

The corpse of Peyton Manning won that SB.

 

 

Chicken Parmy tastes so good!!

Or their awesome defense.

 

the funniest thing about the Panthers that year is Benjamin missed the entire year and Newton won the MVP with Ted Ginn as his top receiver.  Then we traded a pick for that slob.

[boyst]

Newton blows.  It's reality.  2 good seasons with one being great where he had a HOF TE and one of the best OL's assembled this decade.

 

For his price and for the shortness of his career I am just not that impressed 

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, Boyst62 said:

Newton blows.  It's reality.  2 good seasons with one being great where he had a HOF TE and one of the best OL's assembled this decade.

 

For his price and for the shortness of his career I am just not that impressed 

Like clockwork 

[boyst]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

Like clockwork 

Worthwhile response. Amazing they haven't listed what the injury is and there are no rumors, right?  Torn pec?  Torn rotator cuff?  Strained back?  Or is it like the Super Bowl where he hurt his ***** and his mental game is off?  I think whatever it is - it's psychosomatic. Sure, they'll do a surgery, clean out some debris and whatnot but I truly doubt that this is a truly real situation he can't overcome with toughness 

 

The guy has never read a field, always chucked it up, played in a ***** division with ***** tier defenses, benefited from always having Olsen as his checkdown, had OL that were well above average, teammates that hated him/fought with him during practice, had issues playing tough or smart, not motivated to be a team player, and costs you a ton of money for 1 2nd place trophy and a whole bunch of playoff participation trophies?

 

I'd move on while I could and rebuild that team while I could unload Newton for something. He just isn't worth it and he will never get better and has only regressed from his best year.  He's gonna be spent in 2 years.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

..cannot deny Cam's successes early on, leading to SB MVP and ring.......at the same time, he's never been a model of consistency, creating too many distractions......irrespective of career stats, he reminds me of the same immaturity displayed by Kaep and RG III.......hit the limelight too soon, willing to make it all about "me", never hesitating to throw teammates under the bus, exonerating any blame for a "L", etc......Kaep lost his way with tats 'n poses.....Griffin was Dopey Danny's fair haired boy even with Daddy RG sticking his two cents in....and now Cam is worried about his fedoras and digs for pressers.....I'm probably an old school crustacean, but those self-imposed distractions seem to infer lack of commitment to a TEAM sport versus it's is about ME....then again, I'm probably not the brightest bulb in the lighting store.......STFU Oldtimer..........

Edited December 20, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[CommonCents]

Did I get dropped on my head recently? Cam Newton didn’t win a SB. Did he?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

18 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Did I get dropped on my head recently? Cam Newton didn’t win a SB. Did he?

 

...point?...so did Flacco and now he's healthy "riding the pine" with talk about being expendable..................

[C.Biscuit97]

Cam’s Rookie year - 60%, 4,051 yards, 7.8 ypa, 21 tds, 84.5 qb rating, 706 rushing yards, 14 tds.  What a bum!!!

[Bing Bong]

13 hours ago, prissythecat said:

Panthers still have a small chance to get into playoffs right?  Maybe they think the backup is going to take them places where overrated Cam didn’t .

Yes they waited until they had a playoff odds 2% chance and play their real superstar who's proven to play real MVP level football

7 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Except the whole MVP 15-1 SB season, multiple playoff berths, and rookie passing records.  Some of you are comparing Allen and his 65 qb rating to Hall of Famers and trashing Newton.  So dumb. 

 

If Allen is 80% as good as Newton, he will the second best qb in Bills history.

Haha. It would be so bad to have Allen be Cam Newton.  You guys might want to compare Allen’s year to Cam’s rookie year.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm

Good god they're stupid. 

12 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Is it, though?

 

His shoulder has been inconsistent. He has chucked the ball up consistently and llet it fly everywhere but has some mystery injury. Panthers fans have seen it and have made it known: newton has been a headcase this year and has no focus.

 

This is a guy who cares more about his promotion and schtick than he does his team. This is a guy who throws himself around the field too stupid to protect himself and slings the ball so much and so hard that it's a matter of time (this year or next) that he is done.  I don't think Newton will be doing much of anything by 2020. I've said it for 3 years.

 

This is the decline. He had a good run at being above average but never even touched being a good QB, though he was borderline elite at football.

 

The dudes a joke and his head is his biggest obstacle.

YES IT'S FOOLISHNESS. Btw he's hurt. He didn't just get permanently disabled. Please oh please cite me where Cam has been a head case. I'm begging. Give me one thing.

 

They played him at 40% on the slimmest chances they make the playoffs probably because 40% Cam is better than ... Who again?

[Bing Bong]

13 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I would hate to have Cam Newton as my starter, the Panthers are going through what the Bills did with Taylor. The Panthers would need a defense better than what the Bears have this year to even have a chance at the playoffs. The Panthers need a fresh start at the QB position.

I actually think Newton has worse field vision than Taylor if that is even possible.

So let me try to understand you here. BOY you must really hate Jim Kelly for making it to the Superbowl. He didn't even win MVP but he had an MVP runningback! What a horrible Quarterback to have. Can't even carry a team to the SB without an MVP Thurman Thomas. I mean Cam Newton won MVP carrying an offense and factoring for every score they had. Wow that's a terrible thing to have I'm sure you hate a QB that finishes his career after a SB run making a few playoffs with 12-4 records. You really must not like Jim Kelly. And talk about Josh Allen right? That bum couldn't even throw his best WR KB 1000 must be a bust!

 

Ffs set your bar a little lower or look at your own franchise in the mirror before saying Carolina's Cam had the equivalency of Buffalo's Tyrod.

[Bing Bong]

7 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Newton blows.  It's reality.  2 good seasons with one being great where he had a HOF TE and one of the best OL's assembled this decade.

 

For his price and for the shortness of his career I am just not that impressed 

Last I checked he still has a career