Deranged Rhino Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 ...But Nancy told us there wasn't the votes in the House to pass his bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Hey dems- Don't want a shutdown? Vote for the bill in the senate. If there is one its the dems fault now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Shut the ***** down for all I care. A bunch of succubus' on society. Once it's shut down we'll see how useless it is. Nothing but a bunch of paper pushers and bought and paid for frauds. The only people that will give a ***** are the people who rely on the government to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Welp, the Schumer shutdown is upon us. Will Chuckie blink? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Welp, the Schumer shutdown is upon us. Will Chuckie blink? I just hope as my representative, he sticks to his principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I just hope as my representative, he sticks to his principle. And I hope as my representative ? he does what is in the best interest of the country - fund border security. Schumer is all about the optics. If they spin it in the media hard enough that it appears to be favoring the Democrats, he will hold his ground. If the polls come in that the Ds in Congress are to blame.... well, we shall see. I can't help but think that the 156K people who have donated to that gofundme so far may have some Congress people nervous. Not the money donated - the fact that 156K people have spoken with their wallets in the last three days, all with gofundme trying their level best to keep it off the front page, and taking it off "trending" (it is accumulating some ridiculous amount per minute, but again, it is the number of people, not the donation amount). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) On 12/11/2018 at 3:37 PM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Well, I have to admit that Schumer is laying it on thick, and I have little love for these two. But let's give credit where credit is due. Mr. 45 has owned any impending shutdown. https://thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-shutdown/ All I'm going to say is this: while the Republicans control both houses of Congress, and the executive branch until January 3rd...when it will control two of those three. If they can't do anything until then, then yeah, the president needs to own up to his comments about how shutdowns are the president's fault. Let's give credit where credit is due. Looks like DJT sold his stake in the "impending shutdown" to a guy from Brooklyn named Chuckie, and revealed that his gf Nancy is blissfully unaware about what's happening in House she's moving into. In the meantime, this serves as a reminder as to why you have to sit at the kids table. 50 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: And I hope as my representative ? he does what is in the best interest of the country - fund border security. Schumer is all about the optics. If they spin it in the media hard enough that it appears to be favoring the Democrats, he will hold his ground. If the polls come in that the Ds in Congress are to blame.... well, we shall see. I can't help but think that the 156K people who have donated to that gofundme so far may have some Congress people nervous. Not the money donated - the fact that 156K people have spoken with their wallets in the last three days, all with gofundme trying their level best to keep it off the front page, and taking it off "trending" (it is accumulating some ridiculous amount per minute, but again, it is the number of people, not the donation amount). I lost hope long ago that schumer and the vast majority of the senate will do what's in the best interest of the country, but now I'm a bit embarrassed by my reply. You're spot on with this one. Edited December 21, 2018 by leh-nerd skin-erd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: And I hope as my representative ? he does what is in the best interest of the country - I would you not hope the POTUS also does the same? you know as well as I do this all comes cause Trump listens to/takes direction from Fox News..does that not scare the hell out of you? He has flipped 180 degrees once his BFFs on Fox and friends flipped out..no worries on your end? Edited December 21, 2018 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Quote Mark MeadowsVerified account @RepMarkMeadows 3h3 hours ago Just submitted this letter to the CAO, in advance of the government funding deadline. Members of Congress shouldn't be paid when the government isn't open. If there is a shutdown, I will not be accepting any of my salary for as long as it lasts. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Is Mexico pissed that they have to spend more than 5 billion on the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: would you not hope the POTUS also does the same? you know as well as I do this all comes cause Trump listens to/takes direction from Fox News.. Seriously? First. show me the evidence that Trump takes direction from anyone. Then we can talk about "who." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Seriously? First. show me the evidence that Trump takes direction from anyone. Then we can talk about "who." TV Ratings: From 2017 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/president-trump-cant-stop-mentioning-television-ratings-1050094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 ... If it's a reconciliation it's a simple majority. 51, not 60, needed. Unless it's not a reconciliation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: ... If it's a reconciliation it's a simple majority. 51, not 60, needed. Unless it's not a reconciliation? I think they need the 60. I have not seen anyone suggest otherwise. Edited December 21, 2018 by Buffalo_Gal Autocorrect sucks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 hours ago, BigMcD said: Is Mexico pissed that they have to spend more than 5 billion on the wall? I heard that the US State Department is GIVING Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador a total of $10 BILLION. Mexico’s money is for their southern boarder “infrastructure“. We cant get the Dems to pony up $5 Billion to find our border security, but we can give away twice that much to foreign countries that are corrupt and the source of much of our immigration issues? How can US tax dollars be collected and used for this while our basic national security goes lacking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 A small fraction of the massive tax cut could have fully funded the border wall and high tech surveillance . I don't understand Trump's priorities at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Well, you are rather dim and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: ... If it's a reconciliation it's a simple majority. 51, not 60, needed. Unless it's not a reconciliation? I'm pretty sure it's too late for that with all the procedures it has to go through and then would have to be sent back to the House where a Democratic majority will be waiting. Pry would've been a smart move right after the November midterms. I don't know if they get 50 Republican Senator votes though if it was the full 25 billion Trump requested. Edited December 21, 2018 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 , it is important to point out that you can’t use reconciliation for just anything. First of all, budget reconciliation can only be brought up a maximum of three times per year per budget resolution. Also, Congress has banned reconciliation from being used to increase deficits. Finally, the largest restriction on budget reconciliation is the Byrd Rule, which was named after its chief sponsor, the late Senator Robert Byrd (D-W.V.). This allows senators to block provisions of reconciliation bills that are extraneous to reconciliation’s basic purpose of implementing budget changes. This deters committees receiving reconciliation directives to add a wide range of unrelated provisions that could lead to more controversy. http://www.ncsl.org/blog/2017/01/13/how-the-congressional-reconciliation-process-works.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 4 hours ago, DC Tom said: Seriously? First. show me the evidence that Trump takes direction from anyone. Then we can talk about "who." seriously? Your house ain't got no TV to watch or Internet to read? ( if you are not a fan of Tony Kornheiser, that last sentence won't make any sense) It has been widely, massively reported that Trump spends most of his morning watching, calling in, cheering, being interviewed by FNF, and other Fox News programs. I know you know this. Also reported he has a nighly call with Hannity . Tuesday morning, Sanders announces Trump will approve spending bill with no wall funding Wednesday morning FNF goes crazy on Trump..and actually asks Conway some hard questions about why Trump is "losing" to the Dems Thursday more blasting by FNF over Syria... Thursday afternoon, Trump flips back to won't sign the spending bill. yes, Trump did not come out and say I am flipping my position for the 3rd time in 4 days cause Fox is being mean to me......but I have a sneaking suspicion you are smart enough to link the two Can you show me evidence he is NOT listening to making decisions based on what FSF says? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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