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Lorax - should he be extended?

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18 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

NOOOO!

 

He's eating up a roster spot that could be had by a younger, more athletic player.

 

If he can be had for vet minimum, I wouldn't hate it. The main thing this defense is lacking is another edge rusher opposite Hughes. We need a younger, more athletic version of Lorax. I think that'll help us out quite a bit in the RZ, where the D has struggled mightily.

 

I'm over Lorax the football player.

He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... 

 

I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH 

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In his interview this AM, he said he hasn’t decided if he will play next year but will decide with his family on the offseason. He said if he decides to play he hopes that he and the Bills can come to an agreeement and he can retire here. 

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1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... 

 

I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH 

He's a fantastic rotational guy on a cheap vet contract. If someone comes in and outperforms him that's exactly what we want. Until then he's set a high bar (and that's not a bad thing!)

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On 12/6/2018 at 10:48 AM, RyanC883 said:

 

good point.  If not, I could see him being an announcer.  Would be nice to have a defensive guy in the broadcast booth.  Most seem to be offensive guys lately. 

 

And it would be nice to have an announcer who played special teams.  I would not be surprised to see him be snapper if long snapper was hurt.

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5 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... 

 

I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH 

Fair enough. The numbers refute my take on Lorax and I always defer to numbers.

 

That being said, the lack of a dynamic edge athlete is preventing this defense from making the jump from good to elite. Too many TD's in the RZ. Get a freak athlete coming off the edge and I believe that works itself out. Does anyone have a better idea as to how to fix the awful RZ defense? Love to hear it.

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6 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... 

 

I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH 

 

I think it can argued that Lorax is our most consistent pass rusher.  He can rush from the inside and out.

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1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said:

Fair enough. The numbers refute my take on Lorax and I always defer to numbers.

 

That being said, the lack of a dynamic edge athlete is preventing this defense from making the jump from good to elite. Too many TD's in the RZ. Get a freak athlete coming off the edge and I believe that works itself out. Does anyone have a better idea as to how to fix the awful RZ defense? Love to hear it.

Resigning Lorax would not prevent us from doing htis....he makes virtually peanuts

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Resigning Lorax would not prevent us from doing htis....he makes virtually peanuts

Yes, and as I've continued to say, my biggest concern is that they don't address edge athlete.

 

I have no problem resigning Lorax to a one year deal, but they cannot neglect the issue. The best way to come up with big stops in short areas is to have dynamic athletes with the ability to contain screens, etc. That is my solution to fixing the RZ issues and I've yet to hear another.

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6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

In his interview this AM, he said he hasn’t decided if he will play next year but will decide with his family on the offseason. He said if he decides to play he hopes that he and the Bills can come to an agreeement and he can retire here. 

he also stated that he for sure has another year in the tank though...

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4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Yes, and as I've continued to say, my biggest concern is that they don't address edge athlete.

 

I have no problem resigning Lorax to a one year deal, but they cannot neglect the issue. The best way to come up with big stops in short areas is to have dynamic athletes with the ability to contain screens, etc. That is my solution to fixing the RZ issues and I've yet to hear another.

Agreed.  We're a unique defense given that we're a) good and b) don't really have a game changer.  Tre is fantastic and Edmunds might develop into one someday, but presently we don't have one.  I'd advocate to extend him again at a team friendly price.  He makes ~3M per right now, but I don't want to offer him ~5M as some suggest.  

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5 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

he also stated that he for sure has another year in the tank though...

Yes he mentioned how great he feels physically and mentally 

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10 minutes ago, stony said:

Agreed.  We're a unique defense given that we're a) good and b) don't really have a game changer.  Tre is fantastic and Edmunds might develop into one someday, but presently we don't have one.  I'd advocate to extend him again at a team friendly price.  He makes ~3M per right now, but I don't want to offer him ~5M as some suggest.  

Yep. And I happen to love Milano, but he's more heady and opportunistic than athletic.

 

Edit: The more I think about it, the more I lean towards Edmunds being that guy on the OUTSIDE. If he continues to struggle with recognition, he could thrive in a role that requires less diagnosis and more raw talent.

 

Middle linebackers are not nearly as valuable as they once were.

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Based on his production the last few years, he’s been extremely underpaid. Considering we have plenty of cap space ( probably won’t even spend half of it), I’d give him 6+ mil for next year based on appreciation alone. He’s earned his damn check.

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don't care how old he is...if he keeps playing at this level, why get rid of him?

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Love Lorax and want to resign him...but you know who the perfect replacement is? Josh Allen from Kentucky. Can play off the ball, on the ball, can line up as a defensive end in nickel defense. He's the perfect hybrid player for his defense. Not the athlete that Shaq Thompson was coming out, but he's a much better football player. 

 

First Josh Allen is working out. Might as well get the other one. Heck let's sign the backup center Josh Allen, formerly of the Bucs to corner the market on Josh Allens. 

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Obviously, early in my career, I was a predominantly special teams player.” Alexander shared on WGR 550’s The Howard and Jeremy Show. “I think that saved me later in my career because I don’t have the same mileage as your average 35-year-old because I wasn’t a starter, I played only maybe 15 plays on defense and then all the special teams plays.”

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-lorenzo-alexander-wants-to-retire-as-a-bill

 

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..Archuletta comment:..."Lorenzo Alexander, the ageless one"......what the hell else is there to say?...............

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