Until we sort this officiating we are going nowhere

[Teddy KGB]

8 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

So you have a problem with the poor officiating except for when we benefit from it?

 

Why are you asking these questions? 

 

You just watched the game.    You know why he’s talking about the refs today 

Just now, row_33 said:

 

All 32 teams fans will whine about the refs today

 

 

 

Will any of their QBs get tackled by the neck without a call ?     Doubtful 

[row_33]

Refs shouldn’t have stopped Clay from winning the game there

 

 

[Bangarang]

2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

name one.  name a game you've watched this year, even a Bills game, with officiating this poor.  

 

of course, it could be the NFL gives the terrible crews to the "bad" games, which we play in a lot.  

 

This was the only game this year where I've seen such awful officiating.  

 

Browns cost the game against the Raiders. 

 

Maybe youre not watching enough football around the league if that’s what you think?

Edited December 2, 2018 by Bangarang

[kbarrettb]

We lost because we played like ass in the first quarter. And receivers didn't play very well and Allen had some bad throws. Blaming officiating is what weak people do. 

[Jasovon]

1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Why are you asking these questions? 

 

You just watched the game.    You know why he’s talking about the refs today 

I got exactly the same responses from him and others after the abomination of the Seahawks game a couple of years back. 

[BADOLBILZ]

 

 

McRex needs to clean up the f*cking penalties......they are earning these calls and developing a rep which draws extra attention......gotta' earn the right to win Sean!

[PeterDude]

Every team in the league except for maybe the Pats have games like this, just the way it is.

 

If you execute with proficiency, the officials can't touch you.

[John from Riverside]

think it is the TYPE of non calls that I find concerning.......these refs are always going to miss calls....you CANNOT miss blow to a QBs head.....of which at least 2 I can count on Allen that were not called.

 

It is a testimate to this team that they battled today to be in a position to win the game on a dropped pass by Clay

[Bangarang]

6 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

I don't care about every other team, i care about the Bills. We got hosed and I'm sick of it and want change. If you're happy with our QB getting hit in the head and our defenders not being allowed to celebrate then you keep doing you.

 

The title of this thread implies that we are the only team who deals with poor officiating. We are not. You have a problem with the refs but then say it would be okay if we were the beneficiaries of poor calls. Make up your mind. Do you want the problem fixed or do you just want us to benefit more from it?

Edited December 2, 2018 by Bangarang

[Mr. WEO]

15 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said:

Don't worry.  As long as their golden teams win, the nfl doesn't care.

 

 

Now Miami is a "golden team"?  The stadium was 1/3 empty in the 4th Q in a close game.

 

14 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

How was there not a flag on Miami for throwing a challenge flag under two minutes? They did that to delay so the bills couldn’t run a play. 

 

It's a booth review.  No challenge necessary. It gets initiated off the field.

[Jasovon]

Just now, Bangarang said:

 

The title of this thread implies that we are the only team who deals with poor officiating. We are not. You have a problem with the refs but then say it would be okay if we were the beneficiaries of poor calls. Make up your mind. Do you want the problem fixed or do you want us to benefit from it?

You need reading comprehension, the title simply says we are going nowhere until we do something about the officiating. No reference to other teams because i don't care about them. I have a problem with inconsistency and bias, are you getting this now? Did you watch todays game? Have you seen us play the Patriots? Come on man i don't know what your deal is if you're just trying to be devils advocate your "everyone suffers the same" argument is pretty weak compared to the last 3 hours we had to endure. 

[RyanC883]

4 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

Browns cost the game against the Raiders. 

 

Maybe youre not watching enough football around the league if that’s what you think?

 

I do watch it.  And the refs league-wide are terrible.  One reason is that there is zero real accountability.  But today's game was the worst game I've seen this year.   Name a game where a QB took numerous head shots, including on the final drive, and those were not called.  That's been a point of emphasis for YEARS,  yet this crew of morons missed it.  

[MrEpsYtown]

Really terrible. Allen is going to get the Cam Newton treatment. Because he is bigger and tougher he's going to get no flags. 

 

The PI on the Zay play is such bull crap. If he dropped it, they would have thrown the flag. But they thought he caught it, so the didn't throw it. And it got overturned. I hate the circumstantial officiating. 

 

The non holding call as Tunsil tackled Jerry really pissed me off too on the Dolphins last touchdown. 

 

The Dolphins had no business winning that game. They need to send a fruit basket to Clay, McKenzie, and the officiating crew. 

Edited December 2, 2018 by MrEpsYtown

[Bangarang]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I do watch it.  And the refs league-wide are terrible.  One reason is that there is zero real accountability.  But today's game was the worst game I've seen this year.   Name a game where a QB took numerous head shots, including on the final drive, and those were not called.  That's been a point of emphasis for YEARS,  yet this crew of morons missed it.  

 

So you want me to find a game where the refs missed a head shot on the QB specifically in the final drive of the game? Oi vei 

[LABILLBACKER]

16 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said:

Don't worry.  As long as their golden teams win, the nfl doesn't care.

That's so true. Teams that generate more revenues like NE, Pitt, Dallas etc will always get 100x more calls than small market insignificant Buffalo. The only purpose the Bills are for the shield is as "schedule filler".

[RyanC883]

Just now, Bangarang said:

 

So you want me to find a game where the refs missed a head shot on the QB specifically in the final drive of the game? Oi vei 

 

yeah, or where they  missed numerous PI's on a QB.   This officiating today was particularly bad.  

[Seoulful Soul]

5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Now Miami is a "golden team"?  The stadium was 1/3 empty in the 4th Q in a close game.

 

 

It's a booth review.  No challenge necessary. It gets initiated off the field.

 

Miami is a bigger market than Buffalo last time I checked.

[billsfan_34]

24 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

the numerous hits to Allen's head that were not called were awful.   And despite the fact that Zay didn't catch the ball, the CB was all over him PRIOR TO the ball arriving.  Should have been PI.  Another missed call by this terrible officiating crew.  

Brady would have gotten every call

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Seoulful Soul said:

 

Miami is a bigger market than Buffalo last time I checked.

 

 

So what?  That doesn't make them a "golden team" that the NFL is "protecting".

[Do The Reich Thing]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Now Miami is a "golden team"?  The stadium was 1/3 empty in the 4th Q in a close game.

 

 

It's a booth review.  No challenge necessary. It gets initiated off the field.

 

I know it’s a booth review... the bills were hustling to run a play and Gase threw a red challenge flag to stop play and give the refs enough time to call for a booth review. 

[GunnerBill]

17 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

AGree with pretty much everything but I do think there was clear evidence to overturn. Should have been PI though 

 

I think that is fair enough - the overturn was a 50/50 call. I am stubbornly in the leave it on the field unless it is absolutely 100 obviously wrong and I thought Zay probably dropped it. To overturn I want more than probably. 

[Bangarang]

3 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

You need reading comprehension, the title simply says we are going nowhere until we do something about the officiating.

 

I see what the title says. Did you miss our playoff appearance last year? Some might say that’s going somewhere. Pretty sure you were complaining about the the refs every week last year as well. 

 

3 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

No reference to other teams because i don't care about them.

 

But other teams teams deal with the same poor officiating we do. It’s a league wide problem. 

 

3 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

I have a problem with inconsistency and bias, are you getting this now?

 

So youre okay with the refs costing us a game as long as they gift us a win too? That does nothing to address the actual problem but it makes you feel better for a week I guess.

 

3 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

Did you watch todays game? Have you seen us play the Patriots? Come on man i don't know what your deal is if you're just trying to be devils advocate your "everyone suffers the same" argument is pretty weak compared to the last 3 hours we had to endure. 

 

It’s not weak, it’s the truth. 

[Iron Maiden]

Are the refs bad, yes, absolutely...are they willfully making bad calls to hurt the Bills ?...Nope...I don't believe they do.... 

[Bangarang]

5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

yeah, or where they  missed numerous PI's on a QB.   This officiating today was particularly bad.  

 

If you seriously haven’t seen games where numerous PIs haven’t gone called then I don’t know what to tell you. It’s literally a weekly occurrence around the league.

[Jasovon]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

 

I see what the title says. Did you miss our playoff appearance last year? Some might say that’s going somewhere. Pretty sure you were complaining about the the refs every week last year as well. 

 

 

But other teams teams deal with the same poor officiating we do. It’s a league wide problem. 

 

 

So youre okay with the refs costing us a game as long as they gift us a win too? That does nothing to address the actual problem but it makes you feel better for a week I guess.

 

 

It’s not weak, it’s the truth. 

Fine you're a league apologist i get it. Enjoy mediocrity i guess?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

 

If you seriously haven’t seen games where numerous PIs haven’t gone called then I don’t know what to tell you. It’s literally a weekly occurrence around the league.

 

In fact I had the Texans game on the other screen. That was awfully officiated with multiple blown calls too. 

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

 

If you seriously haven’t seen games where numerous PIs haven’t gone called then I don’t know what to tell you. It’s literally a weekly occurrence around the league.

 

you changed my point.   PIs go uncalled every week.  But a combo of a QB getting hit in the head and not called for the 2-3rd time in a game, and THEN a PI being missed with under 2 minutes left has not happened.  

[Mr. WEO]

6 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

 

I know it’s a booth review... the bills were hustling to run a play and Gase threw a red challenge flag to stop play and give the refs enough time to call for a booth review. 

 

 

You don't think with the Miami defenders all around running right up to the play signaling no catch (correctly) at the end of the game would not have prompted a booth review right then?

[Bangarang]

3 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

Fine you're a league apologist i get it. Enjoy mediocrity i guess?

 

How am I an apologist by saying officiating around the league is a problem? What are you even taking about?

[Billever76]

31 minutes ago, Luka said:

No coincidence that the head ref was a Hoculi.

 

God I hate him and his dad..Walt Coleman is right behind them also

[BillsInWilmingtonNC]

9 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

 

I know it’s a booth review... the bills were hustling to run a play and Gase threw a red challenge flag to stop play and give the refs enough time to call for a booth review. 

I thought it was actually a penalty if you threw a challenge flag during a time when you cannot challenge (last 2 minutes or if you are out of challenges/timeouts).

[Jasovon]

Just now, Bangarang said:

 

How am I an apologist by saying officiating around the league is a problem? What are you even taking about?

What are you even talking about? Do you want us to have a chance to win games or not? Seems not from where i'm standing you just say "it sucks for everyone" then criticise the Bills for losing games they had very little chance of winning. 

[Billever76]

4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

you changed my point.   PIs go uncalled every week.  But a combo of a QB getting hit in the head and not called for the 2-3rd time in a game, and THEN a PI being missed with under 2 minutes left has not happened.  

EXACTLY it's the timing of the calls/no calls

[Jasovon]

Just now, Billever76 said:

EXACTLY it's the timing of the calls/no calls

apparently that happens to all teams, it's why noone ever comes back to win a game. We should all just nod happily and then turn our anger on the Bills as an organisation like good little fans. 

[row_33]

2 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

apparently that happens to all teams, it's why noone ever comes back to win a game. We should all just nod happily and then turn our anger on the Bills as an organisation like good little fans. 

 

If Clay caught the ball you’d be just fine with it all

 

 

[Jasovon]

1 minute ago, row_33 said:

 

If Clay caught the ball you’d be just fine with it all

 

 

I 100% would not. Our QB took multiple shots to the head that went uncalled and we should never have been in that position.

 

Plus Clay didn't catch the ball and you as well as others are fine with it all, what does that say about you?

Edited December 2, 2018 by Jasovon

[Do The Reich Thing]

10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

You don't think with the Miami defenders all around running right up to the play signaling no catch (correctly) at the end of the game would not have prompted a booth review right then?

Not necessarily with the Bills hustling to run a play. It could or it couldn’t have, but the point is that it’s a delay of game penalty to throw a challenge flag under two minutes. Which he did. 

Edited December 2, 2018 by Do The Reich Thing

[outsidethebox]

39 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

So you have a problem with the poor officiating except for when we benefit from it?

Why are you here? Every comment you make is negative towards the Bills.  Why are you here???

[Do The Reich Thing]

6 minutes ago, BillsInWilmingtonNC said:

I thought it was actually a penalty if you threw a challenge flag during a time when you cannot challenge (last 2 minutes or if you are out of challenges/timeouts).

 

You are exactly correct. That’s the point I was trying to initially make. 

[Bangarang]

5 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

What are you even talking about?

 

Do do I have to spell it out for you? You called me a league apologist which made absolutely no sense because all I’ve done in this thread is criticize the league for their poor officiating. What are you having trouble understanding?

 

5 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

Do you want us to have a chance to win games or not? Seems not from where i'm standing you just say "it sucks for everyone" then criticise the Bills for losing games they had very little chance of winning. 

 

This is just ignorant at this point. You’re talking in circles.