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[Jasovon]

Unless we also got Hopkins he would be useless here. Stats are for losers watch Watson play and see how his receivers help him out 

[PeterDude]

17 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Imagine what he would look like here in Buffalo with this line and these weapons.....

 

/thread

 

Yep, perfect Bills fan form there, been doing it since Losman at least?

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, Zerovotlz said:

Watson is a decent QB thus far....but you cherry picked some stats here.  He is actually now SIX and 3 as the starter but ALL 6 of those wins have been against teams with a losing record except 5-4 Miami....at home.  3 Game winning drives?  Anyone remember the "Drive" he had after the Colts failed on 4th Down in Overtime?  Or the "drive" he had when the Cowboys decided not to go for it.....in overtime?  Impressive stuff.   Watson's last 4 yardage totals.  177,139,239.213.  He hasn't thrown for over 300 yards in a NON OVERTIME game since a week 3 loss to the Giants.  He does only have 7 INTS, but he also has substantially fewer attempts than Brady and Mahomes.  Passer Rating continues to be the single most garbage stat out there....try QBR of 60.2 Watson..good for 16th in the NFL...or exactly AVERAGE.  ....also worth mentioning Watson is 2nd in the NFL with 7 fumbles.  ...and only 1 rushing TD....Brady and Mahomes each have 2.  

 

 

 

Watson is good. He is a franchise Quarterback. Earlier in the season when he was throwing for big yards and losing the cry was "it's all about wins" now the Texans are winning and playing more ball control the cry is "he isn't throwing for enough yards".

 

The Chiefs don't need to worry about Watson being good any more. Your guy looks even better. But the Texans are going to be very happy with Deshaun Watson for a very long time. I see at least a couple of Mahomes vs Watson AFCCGs in the future.

32 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

Unless we also got Hopkins he would be useless here. Stats are for losers watch Watson play and see how his receivers help him out 

 

Hopkins helps him out. Definitely. Would help anyone out. But Watson helps Fuller out, not the other way around. At this point anyone trying to argue the opposite is simple doing so in spite of all the evidence.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

i have not read the whole thread, and this is not an indictment of Watson per se..but the Texans are the luckiest 6-0 team in the history of 6 game win streaks. Truly SHOULD have lost 3 of those games, could have lost two and should have tied 1. And more than a few of those games against awful teams.

 

I can tell you from a betting standpoint, I will focus on their games this season, and I know way to early but can almost call a big regression in 19

You mean like the Bills, last year?  

43 minutes ago, Jasovon said:

Unless we also got Hopkins he would be useless here. Stats are for losers watch Watson play and see how his receivers help him out 

Good point.  The last Texans’ qbs before Watson we’re killing it with Hopkins. Oh wait.

 

maybe the guy who dominated Bama twice in college is just really good.  

[plenzmd1]

13 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You mean like the Bills, last year?  

 

 

exactly...only these guys even more in the extreme on luck..missed field goal last week, getting Peterman, the Reich call, the Garrett call...Colts, Bills, Denver, Cowboys, Dolphins, Jaga are the 6 game streak..not exactly the class of the league( although the Colts are better than most think)

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, plenzmd1 said:

exactly...only these guys even more in the extreme on luck..missed field goal last week, getting Peterman, the Reich call, the Garrett call...Colts, Bills, Denver, Cowboys, Dolphins, Jaga are the 6 game streak..not exactly the class of the league( although the Colts are better than most think)

You could probably do that for a lot of teams.  Watson was also playing through an injury and Watt took some time getting back to his level.  They will be a tough out going forward.  They could be really dangerous if they had a better oline and running game.

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You could probably do that for a lot of teams.  Watson was also playing through an injury and Watt took some time getting back to his level.  They will be a tough out going forward.  They could be really dangerous if they had a better oline and running game.

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I dont think so...and then I look at their schedule. Holy moly, they have played 1 team so far with a winning record, and as things stand now will only play 3 teams with a winning record all year. And one of them is this week against the Skins, who just lost three Offensive starters for the year on Sunday..talk about charmed!

 

May present some good moneyline opportunities though as they should be favored by the public , based on record, in a lot of games.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

22 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

exactly...only these guys even more in the extreme on luck..missed field goal last week, getting Peterman, the Reich call, the Garrett call...Colts, Bills, Denver, Cowboys, Dolphins, Jaga are the 6 game streak..not exactly the class of the league( although the Colts are better than most think)

 

Probably should've lost to Denver.  even indy - they went for the win instead of playing for a tie.  Dallas might win if they don't punt on 4th and 1 from the houston 42. 

 

Thats 3 wins without even discussing the buffalo game that we probably win assuming peterman doesn't go full peterman.

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

I dont think so...and then I look at their schedule. Holy moly, they have played 1 team so far with a winning record, and as things stand now will only play 3 teams with a winning record all year. And one of them is this week against the Skins, who just lost three Offensive starters for the year on Sunday..talk about charmed!

 

May present some good moneyline opportunities though as they should be favored by the public , based on record, in a lot of games.

 

Watson has already shown in his career this season and last that if he needs to throw it every down he will throw it every down and put up the big yards. Whether the Texans are primed for a drop off..... I think as their defense gets older that is inevitable. It is not a young team, but they have a Quarterback they will rebuild around.... and that normally makes rebuilds faster.

[jrober38]

1 hour ago, Jasovon said:

Unless we also got Hopkins he would be useless here. Stats are for losers watch Watson play and see how his receivers help him out 

 

Hopkins is great, but the other guys he's been throwing to are either always injured or not very good.

 

Watson is a really good QB. He'd be a massive upgrade over anyone we have. 

[apuszczalowski]

2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

i have not read the whole thread, and this is not an indictment of Watson per se..but the Texans are the luckiest 6-0 team in the history of 6 game win streaks. Truly SHOULD have lost 3 of those games, could have lost two and should have tied 1. And more than a few of those games against awful teams.

 

I can tell you from a betting standpoint, I will focus on their games this season, and I know way to early but can almost call a big regression in 19

I brought it up earlier. Their defence beat the Bill's with Pick 6s at the end of the game. They got a win Sunday because the Denver kicker missed a last second FG. They arent winning because of Watson, it's not like KC where they are winning because of Mahommes right now. That's not to say that Watson isnt or wont be a good QB, but let's not go overboard with jealousy over not having him because of his play this season. He has been pretty average stats wise while really lucky getting wins.

 

Also, he has been sacked the most in the league IIRC from earlier? So to say he would look so much worse playing in Buffalo might be a stretch cause it seems the Texans oline might be worse.......

 

Not to defend the WRs here as they arent great, but maybe better QB play makes them look better? They have seen passes from over 4 (going on 5 QBs) in practice and games since training camp, and it's been a revolving door at starter so it cant be easy to get used to that many different QBs throwing the ball and working out timing.

Edited November 7, 2018 by apuszczalowski

[Mr. WEO]

19 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Imagine what he would look like here in Buffalo with this line and these weapons.....

 

/thread

 

 

This type of argument is often put out there, but it's really not compelling---as if it says "hey it's ok that we didn't draft wither if these good young QB....because our O-line sucks!"

 

It supposes that no young QB can overcome the deficits of a mediocre O-line, when that's not true.  Both of these kids are mobile, athletic QBs with good arms---much like Russell Wilson, who has played his career behind pretty bad O-lines.

 

Can't "/thread" on a lame cop-out.

[jrober38]

2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

I brought it up earlier. Their defence beat the Bill's with Pick 6s at the end of the game. They got a win Sunday because the Denver kicker missed a last second FG. They arent winning because of Watson, it's not like KC where they are winning because of Mahommes right now. That's not to say that Watson isnt or wont be a good QB, but let's not go overboard with jealousy over not having him because of his play this season. He has been pretty average stats wise while really lucky getting wins.

 

Also, he has been sacked the most in the league IIRC from earlier? So to say he would look so much worse playing in Buffalk might be a stretch cause it seems the Texans oline might be worse.......

 

The Texans are 14th in points, 14th in total yards, 19th in passing yards, 10th in QB Rating, 9th in TD passes, 15th in fewest Interceptions.

 

If the Bills had that type of passing output, or even close to it, we'd probably be 6-3 right now and in the thick of the playoff hunt.

 

Unfortunately, we're 32nd in points, 32nd in total yards, 32nd in passing, 32nd in QB rating, 32nd in TD passes, and 31st in fewest Interceptions.

 

Our offense is the laughing stock of the NFL. It's arguably the worst in the history of the league when you adjust for era. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

The Texans are 14th in points, 14th in total yards, 19th in passing yards, 10th in QB Rating, 9th in TD passes, 15th in fewest Interceptions.

 

If the Bills had that type of passing output, or even close to it, we'd probably be 6-3 right now and in the thick of the playoff hunt.

 

Unfortunately, we're 32nd in points, 32nd in total yards, 32nd in passing, 32nd in QB rating, 32nd in TD passes, and 31st in fewest Interceptions.

 

Our offense is the laughing stock of the NFL. It's arguably the worst in the history of the league when you adjust for era. 

 

So there's room for improvement is what you're saying...

[jrober38]

3 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

So there's room for improvement is what you're saying...

 

We need to improve drastically just to pass the 31st ranked team in most of those categories.

 

I'm dead serious when I say this might be the worst offense in NFL history. 

[apuszczalowski]

7 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

The Texans are 14th in points, 14th in total yards, 19th in passing yards, 10th in QB Rating, 9th in TD passes, 15th in fewest Interceptions.

 

If the Bills had that type of passing output, or even close to it, we'd probably be 6-3 right now and in the thick of the playoff hunt.

 

Unfortunately, we're 32nd in points, 32nd in total yards, 32nd in passing, 32nd in QB rating, 32nd in TD passes, and 31st in fewest Interceptions.

 

Our offense is the laughing stock of the NFL. It's arguably the worst in the history of the league when you adjust for era. 

Not arguing this, my point though is that their win loss record has little to do with Watsons play and more about getting lucky. They almost blew a game last week against the Broncos who missed a makeable FG, the Bill's almost beat them until Allen left the game and Pick6man came in and threw them the game winner. 

 

Watson is good, but having an offence ranked where they are is the middle of the NFL, so average. They appear to have a worse oline but better WRs.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Not arguing this, my point though is that their win loss record has little to do with Watsons play and more about getting lucky. They almost blew a game last week against the Broncos who missed a makeable FG, the Bill's almost beat them until Allen left the game and Pick6man came in and threw them the game winner. 

 

Watson is good, but having an offence ranked where they are is the middle of the NFL, so average. They appear to have a worse oline but better WRs.

 

I dunno - lamar miller has run for 100 a few times this year.  Our complete lack of a running game has tanked any chance for this offense.  When you have a rookie or bad QB - you need to lean on the run game to get you to makeable 3rd downs.  

[jrober38]

Just now, apuszczalowski said:

Not arguing this, my point though is that their win loss record has little to do with Watsons play and more about getting lucky. They almost blew a game last week against the Broncos who missed a makeable FG, the Bill's almost beat them until Allen left the game and Pick6man came in and threw them the game winner. 

 

Watson is good, but having an offence ranked where they are is the middle of the NFL, so average. They appear to have a worse oline but better WRs.

 

This just isn't true. If they had worse QB play they wouldn't even be in situations where luck could get them a win. They'd just be really bad, like we are. 

 

Watson is providing them with average to above average QB play. The result is that they have a good team, who is entertaining, and the franchise is heading in the right direction. The Texans should be a competitive NFL football team for as long as Watson keeps playing like this. If they continue to add around him, particularly upgrading the OL, they could become an elite NFL team. 

 

And the Bills didn't almost beat them with Allen. He produced next to nothing offensively despite being handed multiple short fields to operate on. Prior to the throw where he got hurt, he had 40 yards passing in roughly 2.5 quarters of play. That's as bad as it gets in the NFL. We were losing when he got hurt. 

 

I never understand why people have to try and trash what other successful QBs are doing to try and make our steaming pile of you know what look better than they actually are. 

[plenzmd1]

30 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

This just isn't true. If they had worse QB play they wouldn't even be in situations where luck could get them a win. They'd just be really bad, like we are. 

 

Watson is providing them with average to above average QB play. The result is that they have a good team, who is entertaining, and the franchise is heading in the right direction. The Texans should be a competitive NFL football team for as long as Watson keeps playing like this. If they continue to add around him, particularly upgrading the OL, they could become an elite NFL team. 

 

And the Bills didn't almost beat them with Allen. He produced next to nothing offensively despite being handed multiple short fields to operate on. Prior to the throw where he got hurt, he had 40 yards passing in roughly 2.5 quarters of play. That's as bad as it gets in the NFL. We were losing when he got hurt. 

 

I never understand why people have to try and trash what other successful QBs are doing to try and make our steaming pile of you know what look better than they actually are. 

Not trashing Watson at all, but let's say  3 of the games they won by some real luck went the other way..and instead of 6-3, they were 3-6...does opinions of his year change?

[jrober38]

21 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Not trashing Watson at all, but let's say  3 of the games they won by some real luck went the other way..and instead of 6-3, they were 3-6...does opinions of his year change?

 

Nope.

 

He's still a very good young QB and we'd be lucky to have a QB like him. 

[Augie]

20 hours ago, teef said:

i love talking about qbs that should have been drafted by the bills.

 

Well lucky you! You’ve come to the right place!!! 

[plenzmd1]

9 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Nope.

 

He's still a very good young QB and we'd be lucky to have a QB like him. 

agree, i loved him last year and love him now..just saying he has not been lighting the world on fire, and he would be taking some massive grief if the record was turned around, and it very well may have been.

 

Think just in the Bills game..luck of the bounce Texans recover his 4th fumble I believe? one of the next two plays is the PI on Gaines..and he still did not get it into the endzone.

 

If Bills recover there and run out the clock...he is getting killed and lit up on his ball security..If Bills come back to win that game with a field goal after the PI, he is getting killed for not getting it in the endzone and being late on that 3rd down pass

 

non story though cause they won, faults get covered up in the win

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

Not trashing Watson at all, but let's say  3 of the games they won by some real luck went the other way..and instead of 6-3, they were 3-6...does opinions of his year change?

 

Not at all. He had a losing record in his 7 starts last year and yet he played outstandingly well in 5 of them.  The knock then was "what good are 300 yard games if you end up with an L?" Now they are winning and running the ball much more, especially in the 2nd halves of games, Watson has cut down the turnovers maybe is taking slightly fewer risks with the ball, they are winning close games and the argument becomes "ahh he is only throwing for 250 yards per game they are winning despite him!"

 

It is completely schizophrenic. The truth is Deshaun Watson is really good. He has now played in 16 NFL games - 15 starts and week 1 of his rookie year from the bench.

 

His stats are:

P:16

Yards: 4,088 (255 ypg)

Comp: 63.6%

Avg: 8.4 ypa

TD: 36

INT: 15

Passer Rating: 101.7

 

Those are not just good numbers for a guy's first 16 professional starts. They are really good numbers. This thread is about Watson not about the Bills Quarterbacks but my word if the Bills had someone with those numbers through his first 16 professional starts we'd be fitting him for a gold jacket and petitioning for his name to go onto the Wall.

[apuszczalowski]

48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not at all. He had a losing record in his 7 starts last year and yet he played outstandingly well in 5 of them.  The knock then was "what good are 300 yard games if you end up with an L?" Now they are winning and running the ball much more, especially in the 2nd halves of games, Watson has cut down the turnovers maybe is taking slightly fewer risks with the ball, they are winning close games and the argument becomes "ahh he is only throwing for 250 yards per game they are winning despite him!"

 

It is completely schizophrenic. The truth is Deshaun Watson is really good. He has now played in 16 NFL games - 15 starts and week 1 of his rookie year from the bench.

 

His stats are:

P:16

Yards: 4,088 (255 ypg)

Comp: 63.6%

Avg: 8.4 ypa

TD: 36

INT: 15

Passer Rating: 101.7

 

Those are not just good numbers for a guy's first 16 professional starts. They are really good numbers. This thread is about Watson not about the Bills Quarterbacks but my word if the Bills had someone with those numbers through his first 16 professional starts we'd be fitting him for a gold jacket and petitioning for his name to go onto the Wall.

Again, no ones saying he's not good, but he isnt playing so amazing like Mahommes, or carrying his team to wins like Goff or Brees. No one was saying he sucks cause he is only putting up 250 yards.

 

The Texans arent 6-3 because of the QB play, they won some close games against bad teams by luck (Broncos missing a last second FG and Pick6man coming in and throwing a pick 6 at the end of a game they were close to losing at the end that Watson had not played well in)

 

As for the Bill's comment, of course the fans would be thinking HOF if he put up those numbers here, just look at who Bill's fans have had to watch play QB over the last 5 years....... There are people here who still think Peterman is good and just needs more time......

[GunnerBill]

Just now, apuszczalowski said:

Again, no ones saying he's not good, but he isnt playing so amazing like Mahommes, or carrying his team to wins like Goff or Brees. No one was saying he sucks cause he is only putting up 250 yards.

 

The Texans arent 6-3 because of the QB play, they won some close games against bad teams by luck (Broncos missing a last second FG and Pick6man coming in and throwing a pick 6 at the end of a game they were close to losing at the end that Watson had not played well in)

 

As for the Bill's comment, of course the fans would be thinking HOF if he put up those numbers here, just look at who Bill's fans have had to watch play QB over the last 5 years....... There are people here who still think Peterman is good and just needs more time......

 

He isn't playing as well as Mahomes, Goff and Brees..... no. They are the three best performing QBs in the league through 9 weeks. I don't agree he is some sort of passenger in the wins though. He is playing good football and is a critical part of their wins. Sure they have had a lucky bounce or two go their way. But his stats are not that dissimilar to Tom Brady's about 10 yards a game fewer, the exact same TD/INT ratio, better ypa numbers. Is Brady not carrying New England to any wins either? Are New England not 7-2 at least in part because of quarterback play? After all the Packers were driving in the 4th Quarter in a tied game on Sunday before a big fumble went New England's way.  

 

Deshaun Watson has played like a top 10 Quarterback this year despite playing behind an offensive line that through 7 weeks was the worst in football. He has done it despite being banged up and despite only just coming back from an ACL.

[Bangarang]

Bills fans love to minimize the really good play of another team’s young QB, especially one we passed on. It’s probably jealousy because if we don’t have a good young QB then nobody else should. 

[Zerovoltz]

I really like the QBR stat as a measurement of QB play.  Watson is 16th.  That is good.  If you are Houston, you are thrilled he is your guy and you know you have that piece in place for the next decade if he stays healthy.  I can't speak for Bills fans, but I would assume many would be glad to have him....and I'd bet some would reject him as middle of the pack and happy to see what Allen becomes.  .....my only point in posting in this thread was to counter the OP who seems to think Watson is elite.  He isn't.  He is good but in the mid range of QB, not top 10.  

[iinii]

On 11/6/2018 at 1:30 PM, jrober38 said:

 

It's hard to avoid when you trade out of a pick and could have drafted two QBs who are better than any QB we've drafted in 35 years... 

Denial is a coping mechanism for some. 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

Bills fans love to minimize the really good play of another team’s young QB, especially one we passed on. It’s probably jealousy because if we don’t have a good young QB then nobody else should. 

For reals.  Could you even begin to imagine if JP, EJ, or Allen put up Watson’s “questionable” first 16 game numbers of 4,000 yards and 36 tds?  Has any Bills qb ever had a stretch like that ever?

[GunnerBill]

22 minutes ago, Zerovotlz said:

I really like the QBR stat as a measurement of QB play.  Watson is 16th.  That is good.  If you are Houston, you are thrilled he is your guy and you know you have that piece in place for the next decade if he stays healthy.  I can't speak for Bills fans, but I would assume many would be glad to have him....and I'd bet some would reject him as middle of the pack and happy to see what Allen becomes.  .....my only point in posting in this thread was to counter the OP who seems to think Watson is elite.  He isn't.  He is good but in the mid range of QB, not top 10.  

 

I both agree and disagree. I don't think Watson is elite. I don't actually think Mahomes is elite yet - his performances this season have been - but to get into that category you have to do it week in week out over a longer period. Mahomes is trending towards elite but isn't there yet. 

 

Where I disagree is I do think Watson is playing like a top 10 QB and I think he is going to be a top 10 QB for a long time. I don't think he is ever likely to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers elite.... whereas Mahomes might be but I do think Watson can have a career playing pretty consistenly in that next tier down. The Matt Ryan / Philip Rivers type career and I think he has more natrural clutch gene about him than either of those two. 

[BigDingus]

On 11/6/2018 at 1:30 PM, teef said:

did you say that about mahomes?

 

Oh! Oh! I did! Pick me! 

[BringBackOrton]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I both agree and disagree. I don't think Watson is elite. I don't actually think Mahomes is elite yet - his performances this season have been - but to get into that category you have to do it week in week out over a longer period. Mahomes is trending towards elite but isn't there yet. 

 

Where I disagree is I do think Watson is playing like a top 10 QB and I think he is going to be a top 10 QB for a long time. I don't think he is ever likely to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers elite.... whereas Mahomes might be but I do think Watson can have a career playing pretty consistenly in that next tier down. The Matt Ryan / Philip Rivers type career and I think he has more natrural clutch gene about him than either of those two. 

Wanna know what’s incredible? Watson’s first 16 game totals would be the one of the best statistical seasons of Phil Rivers’ career.

[John from Riverside]

4 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Bills fans love to minimize the really good play of another team’s young QB, especially one we passed on. It’s probably jealousy because if we don’t have a good young QB then nobody else should. 

Or we can just be happy for those teams and look to our own QB that we have drafted with the 7th overall pick

[Teddy KGB]

3 hours ago, Zerovotlz said:

I really like the QBR stat as a measurement of QB play.  Watson is 16th.  That is good.  If you are Houston, you are thrilled he is your guy and you know you have that piece in place for the next decade if he stays healthy.  I can't speak for Bills fans, but I would assume many would be glad to have him....and I'd bet some would reject him as middle of the pack and happy to see what Allen becomes.  .....my only point in posting in this thread was to counter the OP who seems to think Watson is elite.  He isn't.  He is good but in the mid range of QB, not top 10.  

 

Hes top 10 easily.    He’s hurt and has no OL and he’s still bringing home that bacon.   

 

Watson and Mahomes are both elite.    Mcdermott on draft day is a bumbling stooge. 

[That's No Moon]

On 11/6/2018 at 2:30 PM, teef said:

did you say that about mahomes?

You mean the Mahomes who was a 3 Star recruit out of high school who had 3 d1 offers in football and was the 10th overall pick in the MLB draft as well? My point is he was a highly touted athlete for a long time in multiple sports. Development for that guy is a better bet but still not a lock.

 

Josh Allen had 0 offers out of high school and only 1 out of JUCO. College football is as qb starved as the nfl and there are 130 d1 programs. What are the odds that 129 of them completly missed on a player twice? Put it this way, UB didn't see fit to offer Allen a scholarship and they had 2 chances to do it and he was practically begging for a look but the Bills felt he was worth the #8 pick in the draft. That doesn't seem odd?

[Zerovoltz]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I both agree and disagree. I don't think Watson is elite. I don't actually think Mahomes is elite yet - his performances this season have been - but to get into that category you have to do it week in week out over a longer period. Mahomes is trending towards elite but isn't there yet. 

 

Where I disagree is I do think Watson is playing like a top 10 QB and I think he is going to be a top 10 QB for a long time. I don't think he is ever likely to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers elite.... whereas Mahomes might be but I do think Watson can have a career playing pretty consistenly in that next tier down. The Matt Ryan / Philip Rivers type career and I think he has more natrural clutch gene about him than either of those two. 

 

We aren't far off.....I'll put it this way....If the Chiefs had taken Watson, and we were getting the production out of him that he is giving Houston...most of us would be pretty happy about it....and we'd be thrilled to have drafted our own guy who would allow us to be competive for a decade or more.  Houston has the hardest part of building a team taken care of now...the QB and they will probably be able to put a contendor or two together over the coming few years.  Watson is better than a Tannehill or a Mariotta for sure....the Titans and Dolphins for example, even though they "have a QB"....they don't really "have a QB".  I hope that makes sense.  Houston certainly has a QB and they are, and should be happy with it.

[Bangarang]

4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Or we can just be happy for those teams and look to our own QB that we have drafted with the 7th overall pick

 

If only it were that simple 

[Billsfanatic8989]

I just googled " Watson struggling with tape". What I expected to see was something about tape worms. Dumb me lol.

[John from Riverside]

23 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

If only it were that simple 

It really can be that simple

[Bangarang]

53 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

It really can be that simple

 

I just want to have nice things too