Kirby Jackson Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Unheard of kinds of terrible I’ll have to look at the tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ll have to look at the tape A few things I think (please tell me I am an idiot): 1.) When Rex was fired, the entire org knew it was going to be a teardown/rebuild 2.) We lucked into the playoffs last year and overacheived 3.) The entire org knew there would be a regression this year based on the dead cap and all of the other dead horses we have beaten lately 4.) I don't think anyone expected it to be this bad 5.) Pegs is in a tough spot - he doesn't like his teams to be embarrassing, but 6.) I really think the seat might be getting a little hot for these guys (even though I don't think Pegs would pull the plug that quick - but he might be starting to think it) 7.) I wish we had an insider who knew the current feeling in the organization. I don't know if McD makes it if it stays this bad 8.) I don't see it getting much better unless Allen comes back and plays amazing 9.) The QB and OL situation are the biggest reasons why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: A few things I think (please tell me I am an idiot): 1.) When Rex was fired, the entire org knew it was going to be a teardown/rebuild 2.) We lucked into the playoffs last year and overacheived 3.) The entire org knew there would be a regression this year based on the dead cap and all of the other dead horses we have beaten lately 4.) I don't think anyone expected it to be this bad 5.) Pegs is in a tough spot - he doesn't like his teams to be embarrassing, but 6.) I really think the seat might be getting a little hot for these guys (even though I don't think Pegs would pull the plug that quick - but he might be starting to think it) 7.) I wish we had an insider who knew the current feeling in the organization. I don't know if McD makes it if it stays this bad 8.) I don't see it getting much better unless Allen comes back and plays amazing 9.) The QB and OL situation are the biggest reasons why I think that you are pretty close. Number 4 is where they hold the most responsibility. It is their job to evaluate talent and anticipate what will happen. They were a little unlucky with the OL but the rest of the roster they own. Their player evaluations were dead wrong in a lot of cases. That’s how they got here. It hasn’t been a rash of injuries and bad bounces. It’s been bad decisions. They need to own that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 11 hours ago, ScottLaw said: And then you said "the cult will be out to cut him." As if him scoring those TDs means anything at all. Oh Scott. Cult? Did I really post the word cult? All I said was Nate is the QB that scored the last two TD's for the Bills. Is that a lie? Look at the BIG picture here. Quote The haters will still rant for Nate to be cut Again. Is that "a lie" or the truth? Yeah, it really sucks all those balls bounce of receivers hands or arms for Nate and he gets tagged for the INT. We have to live with the QB situation until the better option comes along. Reality Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that you are pretty close. Number 4 is where they hold the most responsibility. It is their job to evaluate talent and anticipate what will happen. They were a little unlucky with the OL but the rest of the roster they own. Their player evaluations were dead wrong in a lot of cases. That’s how they got here. It hasn’t been a rash of injuries and bad bounces. It’s been bad decisions. They need to own that. Not many decision makers anywhere can make that many poor decisions and expect to keep their job, doesn't matter what business it is this poor of a performance could and should have extreme consequences, like being held accountable and then fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 12 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Prescott Rossi @PrescottRossi Q: "Is Nate Peterman an NFL quarterback?" Sean McDermott: "I believe he is. I believe he is." McD is doing his best "the little engine that could" impression. "I think he can, I think he can, I think he can..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What are we worried about guys? Peterman is going to learn from the failed Hail Mary and McDermott is going to watch the tape and together the group will correct their mistakes. We're building a culture here people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 13 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: To be clear Peterman is not a good QB but those claiming the WR's contributed a whole lot to our offensive problems today are spot on. We have the worst WR's/TE's in the NFL. I'm not sure any of these guys would start for any other team in the NFL. Our WR's do not get separation; they lead the league in dropping catch-able balls; and I believe they also are last in the NFL in YAC. But I would also say that if Peterman supporters are going to cite the dismal WR/TE play to explain away some of his bad stats then the same applies to Allen who had 3 TD's dropped and at least one INT off a pass that bounced off the chest of a WR. Nah, they just seem bad because of Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: What are we worried about guys? Peterman is going to learn from the failed Hail Mary and McDermott is going to watch the tape and together the group will correct their mistakes. We're building a culture here people. He actually said that in his postgame podium presser. Completely ridiculous and brainless from a football IQ perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Yup Peterman sucks. 2 INTs not really his fault but he gets the stat. Who scored the last 2 TDs for Buffalo? That would be one of worst starting QB's in the NFL in the last couple of decades...thats who... Edited November 5, 2018 by JPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BADOLBILZ Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: A few things I think (please tell me I am an idiot): 1.) When Rex was fired, the entire org knew it was going to be a teardown/rebuild 2.) We lucked into the playoffs last year and overacheived 3.) The entire org knew there would be a regression this year based on the dead cap and all of the other dead horses we have beaten lately 4.) I don't think anyone expected it to be this bad 5.) Pegs is in a tough spot - he doesn't like his teams to be embarrassing, but 6.) I really think the seat might be getting a little hot for these guys (even though I don't think Pegs would pull the plug that quick - but he might be starting to think it) 7.) I wish we had an insider who knew the current feeling in the organization. I don't know if McD makes it if it stays this bad 8.) I don't see it getting much better unless Allen comes back and plays amazing 9.) The QB and OL situation are the biggest reasons why It wasn't even close to a rebuild situation...........there was underachieving due to poor coaching. There was a looming concern because there were a lot of older players........Kyle Williams, Wood, Incognito, Lorax, Hughes, McCoy were all nearing their expiration/decline dates. But the jackasses kept all of them and got rid of the successful young/prime aged first and second round picks.......Watkins, Gilmore, Dareus, Glenn and Woods............it was totally out-of-the-box thinking that isn't working out because it lacked common sense. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 not a Peterman apologist but he certainly didnt get much help Sunday. He is not a good qb but the supporting cast plain out sucked. He gave KB several chances at big plays and the big slug didn't get it done. Zay Jones stunk. Clay out as usual (talk about a guy just cashing checks) McCoy sucked. Pryor stunk. Entire O line mailed it in Watching Mills makes me want to punch my tv. Only guy with any heart on offense yesterday was Ivory and now he's broke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QuoteTheRaven83 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Regardless of our record, we've earned the number 1 overall draft pick IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It wasn't even close to a rebuild situation...........there was underachieving due to poor coaching. There was a looming concern because there were a lot of older players........Kyle Williams, Wood, Incognito, Lorax, Hughes, McCoy were all nearing their expiration/decline dates. But the jackasses kept all of them and got rid of the successful young/prime aged first and second round picks.......Watkins, Gilmore, Dareus, Glenn and Woods............it was totally out-of-the-box thinking that isn't working out because it lacked common sense. Yep. I don't think they knew this was going to be a lousy year at all. I think they thought a couple good bounces and we make the playoffs again. I think they just miscalculated on a bunch of players and coaches, especially the most important position in sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 18 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: 2 of them weren't his fault today, but yeah...not optimal. Nothing is ever actually the Bills fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Obviously Allen is the future. Nate played a gritty game yesterday. Was under pressure often, took a lot of hits, ran the ball well when he had to (excluding the hail Mary he should have thrown), made some good throws (many more good than not) seemed to have a good command of the offense including in no huddle, and overall probably did what the coaches wanted him to do. The offense has many other problems, most notably a poor running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: Nothing is ever actually the Bills fault. I don't think he has mind powers to make Pryor throw the ball back up in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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