Pirate Angel Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 When he fakes the handoff on play action and he turns around to pass and there's not 3 defenders in his face...that must be cool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Is it me, but did the Raiders defense play like it was preseason game #2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, Tazor Face said: When he fakes the handoff on play action and he turns around to pass and there's not 3 defenders in his face...that must be cool to have coach that provides the tools and pieces needed for their players to succeed. Yea, must be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: You two are on the same page. Tyrod was by no means a hall of Famer, but he was in the Alex Smith class in my opinion. He found ways to win and make plays. He didnt throw for 300 yards, but he made plays with his legs. And I agree with criticisms that sometimes he relied on that too much. But at the end of the day, he won games, was every bit the competitor Allen is, and won games. Everyone loves the hurdle Allen made.... But this regime and the people who bought in preach you need a QB who can make plays from the pocket. Allen has shown nothing from the pocket, and everyone goes crazy with the hurdle. It was a fun moment, that's cool. But tell me that if Tyrod did the same thing everyone would have went crazy? I see a trend in Bills fans and I don't like it. Tyrod gave everything to this team and they treated him like *****. Not giving him his money, constantly restructuring, not sure if he is starter or not, yanking him for Nate ***** Peterman. And they drafted some big white kid who throws the ball far (always incomplete), but you know, it's Buffalo and it snows. He has big hands ( I think our GM with a background in communications said "he's got big hands" but whatever), and they drafted him to throw from the pocket. All I've seen is one nice pass on a wheel route, him jump over a guy, and him tell the defense he's with them. It's all garbage. And I left that underlying for good reason because i don't want to get into it, but i think it exists. Watch Eric Reids comments. I'm really starting to be bothered by this team and fanbase. They can go 0-16. I'm still a fan, but when I start to get a weird vibe, I'm out. And I might be, much to the happiness of many. People will lambast Tyrod and in the next sentence talk about how Peterman wasn't given a fair opportunity. Their is definitely some underlying stuff going on with this regime, coaching staff, and segments of this fanbase. You're turned around here. You're seeing spies in the woods hiding behind the trees. Mcdermott is just a coach trying to win football games. Beane, in his role, is doing the same. They could suck at it, last years success--however else it's viewed-- may well have been a fluke and McDermott never achieves even that modest level of success again. I liked Tyrod for the same reasons outlined above. Hard worker, fun to watch at times, amazing escapability and clearly a guy who gave 100%. That said, it was fairly easy to see his limitations and he simply did not offer what this coaching staff was looking for relative to what he was paid. That happens all the time in the NFL. If it's a mistake, and they ride with the wrong guy going forward, that happens as well and when you miss enough times, well, you generally end up on the street looking for work. I'd think in spite of you concerns about the vibe of the team and its fans, the Tyrod experiment in Cleveland lasted about the same amount of time as a 7 year olds birthday party at Chuckie Cheese. I think some fans fans rally around the hurdle for the same reason that fans rallied around some of Tyrod's amazing plays. It's exciting, the kid is playing to win, and in a world where nearly half a 40 year work career can go by between playoff appearances, for some, it offered hope. JA represents the future, in spite of whether or not he actually pans out as The future. Tyrod He can throw the ball a country mile. He makes plays other guys cannot. He'll die on that field for you. And in spite of the vibe you feel, he has a ton of fans saying he was a wasted pick. That's the nature of fandom. Ah, just re-read your post and missed the big "white" kid part. I thought it was commentary on TT v. JA and the decision to keep Peterman. You had me all in on that. Man, what a sad way to look at a damn football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Cmdjr85 said: Someone needs to be fierd for not putting together a competent o line Bills have never had a competent o-line they just obtained players who overcame it like Juice and Kelly and Flutie rolling out from the shotgun to save his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 He’s why McDermott needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JPP Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 12 hours ago, PittsforDave said: Good coaching can make bad players look good. Our coach makes good players unmotivated. Not a good coach. we have good players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, uticaclub said: A lot has to do with coaching. Rex & McDermott think running the ball and playing defense is how you win in today's NFL, it's not Exactly. Coaching, scheme, the right players all play a part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: The accuracy was a beautiful thing to see Unfortunately the Bills don’t believe accuracy is an important quality for a QB. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Unfortunately the Bills don’t believe accuracy is an important quality for a QB. ? gotta have a gold plated RB and a D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I Liked the way he looked and wouldn't mind him on the bills but lets not forget the raiders defense is just awful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Raiders have checked out on Gruden. Nobody on that defense was even trying. Made Mullens appear a lot better than he actually is, I'm sure. Put him up against a real defense that's actually going to play and it'll be a different story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 There are a few things at work here. Shanahan is an excellent offensive coach. The talent level around Mullens is pretty good. I wouldn't say amazing, but very good....and I feel like they stepped up their game a bit to make up for the green rookie. They have done a really excellent job of finding players that fit what Shanahan wants to do. On their pseudo re-build they have moved on from some pretty good players, players who did not fit what Shanahan wanted to do. Vance McDonald, Carlos Hyde, Torrey Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Trent Brown, Alex Boone. He and John Lynch have done a good job of finding players, both in free agency and the draft that fit what they want to do offensively. They went out and replaced those guys with players in free agency and the draft. Shanahan has a system, the guys understand it, and they execute it. We haven't gotten there yet. I do not think the offensive personnel fits what Brian Daboll is trying to accomplish. To me, it's the players, not the coaching. We have mostly replaced our loses with in house scrubs. Replacing Wood and Richie with in house scrubs like Groy and Vlad is dumb. Miller and Mills are backup players. I understand what they were trying to do with KB, but he doesn't seem to fit with Daboll. They did a great job of upgrading the defense with free agency and draft picks. White, Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Milano, Murphy etc etc. The offense has not been addressed because of the cap situation. I for one really like Josh Allen. If resources are devoted to upgrading the offense this off-season, I think we could see a huge jump next year. Last but not least, the Raiders are awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Exactly. Coaching, scheme, the right players all play a part. We have none of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 a lot of salivating going on in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Maine-iac said: They scored 28 points on the leagues best scoring defense. While I agree they took their foot off the gas it took a lot more than Shannahan for that collapse. I agree and I was pointing to the fact that Shannahan kept throwing the ball. If he calls a run on the infamous sack play, the Falcons try a FG. Matt Bryant was very good in clutch kicks. Who knows what would of happened. It was more on the lines of a joke. Shannahan knows offense and he is very bright. He should grow into a good HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IDBillzFan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 hours ago, twoandfourteen said: Yes. McD's old school, tough guy "vision" has produced the worst offense in the modern era of professional football & many blowout losses. Then I'll ask you, too. What's the plan? Who's the new GM? Who's the new HC, OC, DC? And I'm not talking about thinking you'll pull Cowher out of a studio seat. I mean, realistically, what is your plan other then "fire everyone"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Who? Never heard of him. Wasn’t Bethard the QB de jour a few weeks ago? look up history of 1st time QB’s playing record. (the trend has changed recently but it was a trend) You should find that they won 7 of 10 times. No game film to study is to their benefit add them playing a crap team. Do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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