Good news in Brazil

[sherpa]

Lula will never be known for his intellectual capacity, nor for his keen interpretive skills. 

[LeviF]

5 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

Oh my. At least two PPP heads about to explode. Sending thoughts and prayers!!

Russia has been courting Brazil for some time. No surprise here

[Big Blitz]

How did the Fascist tyrant in charge of Brazil’s government allow this to happen?

[B-Man]

 

 

Tucker Carlson: Allowing Brazil to become a colony of China would be a significant blow to us

 

 

Tucker Carlson explains why Bolsonaro is no Justin Trudeau after a wide-ranging interview with the president of Brazil

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-allowing-brazil-become-a-colony-of-china-significant-blow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LeviF]

Hey shitlibs, what do you think about the CIA?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/05/cia-director-bolsonaro-brazil-voting-system-election

 

Quote

The CIA director William Burns urged Jair Bolsonaro to stop questioning his country’s voting system, it has been claimed, amid growing fears the Brazilian president might refuse to accept defeat in this year’s election.

 

Congrats on being spook pawns, you simple *****. 

[T master]

On 10/28/2018 at 6:36 PM, bdutton said:

http://news.trust.org/item/20181028230046-ovczz

 

We need to heed these words or else the Democrats will continue to drag us into a similar situation Brazil has faced with the last 15 years.

 

Agree'd but how do you fix stupid ? I know you can slow it down with a 2x4 but that's about it .

 

Things such as Facts, Numbers, or even a eye witness could stand in front of those people that voted for this wing nut or any one that alines with him & they would look you right in the face & say 1 of 2 things either .

 

He's doing a great job OR This is all due to Trumps policy & he's just trying to fix his screw ups .

 

So how can you get through stupid i don't really see that you can when your dumber than a stump & can't see what's right before your eyes for exactly what it is they won't allow things to be right . 

 

Then if you get someone in place that has the balls to make the right kind of change both sides jump against them we've been watching that for the last 6 years even after the dudes out of office they still are on a campaign to make it look at all costs as if the way they are going is right & he's wrong .

[B-Man]

 

 

 OF COURSE.

 

 

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[Tiberius]

This is a global thing. The dictators are just buying up politicians all over the world

 

 

[BillStime]

15 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

This is a global thing. The dictators are just buying up politicians all over the world

 

 

Mike is amazing 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Good news in Brazil.

 

 

 

No votes at all for a candidate at some centers.

 

Geez, at least TRY to make it look good.

 

 

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[Coffeesforclosers]

A former talk radio host retweets a substack author.  Because a substack author retweeted a random screencap.  That was posted on a Portuguese language twitter account based in Florida, operated by a graphic designer.  

 

Yeaaaaaah, I'm not going to be outraged by this.  And whoever is president of Brazil dosen't affect me in any meaningful way.  So I'm not going to bother screaming at my countrymen or pointing fingers at my own government about it.   They had an election, a guy lost and a guy won and maybe? it wasn't 100% above board but who ***** cares?

 

Democracy is the worst system of government on the planet, except for all the other ones.

 

 

Edited November 5, 2022 by Coffeesforclosers

[B-Man]

4 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

 

Yeaaaaaah, I'm not going to be outraged by this.  And whoever is president of Brazil dosen't affect me in any meaningful way.  So I'm not going to bother screaming at my countrymen or pointing fingers at my own government about it.   They had an election, a guy lost and a guy won and maybe? it wasn't 100% above board but who ***** cares?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gee, I would have thought that someone with "coffee" in their name would have been more concerned about Brazil.

 

 

 

LOL.

 

[Coffeesforclosers]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Gee, I would have thought that someone with "coffee" in their name would have been more concerned about Brazil.

 

 

 

LOL.

 

 

Zing!   Good one B!

 

But seriously, this is a Brazilian problem, if it's even a problem. Life is too short.

[B-Man]

 

 

More "good news" right libs ?

 

 

Canada all over again.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

[B-Man]

New York Times

At Least 1,200 Protesters Arrested in Brazil After Riots: Latest News

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/09/world/brazil-congress-riots-bolsonaro

 

 

 

The Washington Post

Live updatesLula promises prosecution in aftermath of Brazil capital insurrection

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/01/09/brazil-assault-insurrection-bolsonaro-lula/

 

 

 

USA Today

Brazil investigates after storming of Congress by backers of Bolsonaro

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/01/09/brazil-riots-bolsonaro-arrests-storming-congress-government/11016618002/

 

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

HOW’S THAT CENSORSHIP WORKING OUT FOR YOU, BRAZIL? 

 

Glenn Greenwald on about the Brazilian supreme court’s authoritarianism over speech, with 10 members of its Congress banned from social media by order of the court.

 

Meanwhile, Brazilians made January 8 of this year a real version of what everyone pretends January 6, 2021, was in D.C. It’s almost like people think a government that silences its opponents lacks legitimacy!

 

 

https://rumble.com/v23lwro-how-severe-is-judicial-censorship-in-brazil-very.-system-update-with-glenn-.html

 

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2023/01/08/chaos-in-brazil-protesters-storm-capital-destroying-supreme-court-and-congress/

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

HOW’S THAT CENSORSHIP WORKING OUT FOR YOU, BRAZIL? 

 

Glenn Greenwald on about the Brazilian supreme court’s authoritarianism over speech, with 10 members of its Congress banned from social media by order of the court.

 

Meanwhile, Brazilians made January 8 of this year a real version of what everyone pretends January 6, 2021, was in D.C. It’s almost like people think a government that silences its opponents lacks legitimacy!

 

 

https://rumble.com/v23lwro-how-severe-is-judicial-censorship-in-brazil-very.-system-update-with-glenn-.html

 

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2023/01/08/chaos-in-brazil-protesters-storm-capital-destroying-supreme-court-and-congress/

 

 

 

 

 

You seem overly giddy.

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 10/31/2022 at 9:33 PM, sherpa said:

Lula will never be known for his intellectual capacity, nor for his keen interpretive skills. 

If I knew more Portuguese, I could compare him to Trump

[B-Man]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 11/1/2022 at 12:10 AM, LeviF said:

Russia has been courting Brazil for some time. No surprise here

More like China.  The new government has agreed to host Chinese troops and other military personal at bases to be established inside Brazil.  We know the American left loves the CCP (and hates Russia which is illogical because they're working together against us) so they will ignore this not to be mentioned situation.

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Thats nuts.  that would be like our military protecting the J6 morons from the capital police.

 

Highest comment on that thread is this.

 

"The Brazilian Military are the final arbiters of election results. They know there was widespread fraud by Luna and are not pliantly accepting the result. The parliament controls the police. Potential civil war."

[nedboy7]

On 11/3/2022 at 5:30 PM, BillStime said:

Mike is amazing 

 

 

 

see?  they have proof. 

[B-Man]

 

 

[Doc]

4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

More like China.  The new government has agreed to host Chinese troops and other military personal at bases to be established inside Brazil.  We know the American left loves the CCP (and hates Russia which is illogical because they're working together against us) so they will ignore this not to be mentioned situation.

 

Dead giveaway.  Amazing how lefties don't think China could influence the elections in a place like Brazil but think that Russia could do it in America.

[sherpa]

17 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

If I knew more Portuguese, I could compare him to Trump

 

Todo bem?

I spent about nine days per month there for ten months of each year between about 2003 and 2011, the heart of his two terms. 

He was always a bit of a windsock. Still can't get used to seeing it spelled with a "z."

He initially got cordial with Chavez, but turned away from that when Hugo became toxic and evidence of the "Bolivarian Revolution" failing was becoming evident.

Got a bit more moderate as economic reality became apparent and the leftist gross failures in neighboring Argentina became undeniable.

 

Anyway, we'll see. Brazil is kind of an interesting place, but I would take any polling data from there with a grain of salt.

There are massive amounts of people who are not tuned in and easily manipulated.

 

One of the interesting things to me is how this cuddling with China be received by the Japanese population in Brazil which is the largest outside of Japan. Japan and China absolutely don't get along, so there might be a ceiling to that.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2023 by sherpa

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

Todo bem?

I spent about nine days per month there for ten months of each year between about 2003 and 2011, the heart of his two terms. 

He was always a bit of a windsock. Still can't get used to seeing it spelled with a "z."

He initially got cordial with Chavez, but turned away from that when Hugo became toxic and evidence of the "Bolivarian Revolution" failing was becoming evident.

Got a bit more moderate as economic reality became apparent and the leftist gross failures in neighboring Argentina became undeniable.

 

Anyway, we'll see. Brazil is kind of an interesting place, but I would take any polling data from there with a grain of salt.

There are massive amounts of people who are not tuned in and easily manipulated.

 

One of the interesting things to me is how this cuddling with China be received by the Japanese population in Brazil which is the largest outside of Japan. Japan and China absolutely don't get along, so there might be a ceiling to that.

 

 

And your opinion on Bolsanaro?  Seems like a nice human...

the irony of the windsock comment can't be ignored.  Trump was a dem until he became an R and destroyed the party as we knew it.  He certainly hasn't lived his life abiding conservative values. and he found "massive amounts people who are not tuned in and easily manipulated".  "I love the uneducated".

This is class and culture warfare and is being spread globally.  I've got to believe both China and Russia are licking their lips.  They couldn't wish for a better standard bearer against democracy and capitalism.

[sherpa]

16 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

And your opinion on Bolsanaro?  Seems like a nice human...

the irony of the windsock comment can't be ignored.  Trump was a dem until he became an R and destroyed the party as we knew it.  He certainly hasn't lived his life abiding conservative values. and he found "massive amounts people who are not tuned in and easily manipulated".  "I love the uneducated".

This is class and culture warfare and is being spread globally.  I've got to believe both China and Russia are licking their lips.  They couldn't wish for a better standard bearer against democracy and capitalism.

 

I don't have an opinion on Bolsonaro. 

I have no interest in bringing Trump into this or any other conversation and avoid those who do.

 

He has nothing to do with this. Certainly nothing to do with Lula's leadership in the past or what he does now.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I don't have an opinion on Bolsonaro. 

I have no interest in bringing Trump into this or any other conversation and avoid those who do.

 

He has nothing to do with this. Certainly nothing to do with Lula's leadership in the past or what he does now.

you spent significant time in Brazil but have no opinion on the far right there?

And I suppose you see no parallels between Jan 6 and what happened in Brazil 2 days ago.  Totally irrelevant?

Edited January 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[B-Man]

 

 

American Leftists are trying to use Bolsonaro’s arrival in Florida as proof positive that Governor DeSantis is providing a haven for fascist insurrectionists, since their bête noire Donald Trump also lives in the state.

 

Presumably the MSNBC crowd believes that DeSantis should arrest and imprison both men, because that is what a Leftist would do if given the choice.

 

 

 

The idea that election fraud never ever occurs is a rather new one, basically invented in 2020. Democrats screamed bloody murder about election fraud in 2016 and 2018, and famously throughout George W. Bush’s term we were treated to the “selected not elected” meme. For decades Democrats have been very effective at winning elections in courtrooms, with Marc Elias making a career out of seizing victories out of the jaws of defeat by legal wrangling.

 

In Brazil many people fear Lula’s return, as he is a far-Left socialist. One of the reasons there are so many Brazilians in Florida is that Lula’s last turn in the presidency was a disaster. There has been a brain drain, and Bolsonaro was elected because a substantial number of Brazilians are done with the Left.

 

Bolsonaro has condemned the protests, but that of course won’t stop the people calling him a fascist. They do so not because they care a whit about Brazil, but because they want to smear DeSantis.

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/01/10/republicans-are-fascists-reason-9873-n522649

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

Bolsonaro in Florida. My questions/comments. 

- did he travel on a diplomatic passport? Or a regular passport/tourist visa? If the latter, we’d expect it to be a 6-month stay. If he wants to stay longer, well, I guess he could apply for asylum. Everyone else does. 
- Assuming he was admitted for 6 months, you really can’t get

rid of him until his visa expires (assuming no asylum application), or until Brazil initiates a formal extradition request (which still takes time - he could fight it, including by claiming he’d be tortured if we send him back). 
Reminds me of the Shah of Iran situation. (Someone revive all those “Shah’s Spleen” threads!)

- DeSantis would have nothing to do with this. He doesn’t issue passports/visas and doesn’t work the CBP inspection stations at the airport. Did Bolsonaro think Florida would provide him with a lot of support? Of course he did. And he’s right I’m because there’s probably tens of thousands of very politically active Brazilians there who like him, and Florida politicians are responsive to them. But that’s just Florida, not Ron. 

[wnyguy]

4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Bolsonaro in Florida. My questions/comments. 

- did he travel on a diplomatic passport? Or a regular passport/tourist visa? If the latter, we’d expect it to be a 6-month stay. If he wants to stay longer, well, I guess he could apply for asylum. Everyone else does. 
- Assuming he was admitted for 6 months, you really can’t get

rid of him until his visa expires (assuming no asylum application), or until Brazil initiates a formal extradition request (which still takes time - he could fight it, including by claiming he’d be tortured if we send him back). 
Reminds me of the Shah of Iran situation. (Someone revive all those “Shah’s Spleen” threads!)

- DeSantis would have nothing to do with this. He doesn’t issue passports/visas and doesn’t work the CBP inspection stations at the airport. Did Bolsonaro think Florida would provide him with a lot of support? Of course he did. And he’s right I’m because there’s probably tens of thousands of very politically active Brazilians there who like him, and Florida politicians are responsive to them. But that’s just Florida, not Ron. 

Or he snuck in with millions of other illegals and is now entitled to all the benefits of this great country?

[sherpa]

3 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

you spent significant time in Brazil but have no opinion on the far right there?

And I suppose you see no parallels between Jan 6 and what happened in Brazil 2 days ago.  Totally irrelevant?

 

That is correct, with a few adjustments.

 

i have no view on the conservative element in Brazilian politics.

I simply don't know enough about them.

 

The fact that I spent so much time there informs me to conclude that it is preposterous to assume one can watch this stuff on US media and have any informed view of what goes on there.

Brazil is a lot like other South American countries.

There is massive class stratification and massive political corruption.

Whomever is the current popular choice is usually temporary and media driven, and always plays to the beneficiaries of that corruption, which is a way of life and not easily understood by Americans. or consumers of American media.

Saw it firsthand and was made aware from many others who experienced it.

 

Either way, I put no causal suggestion on what happened here and what happened there,

These things have been going on forever.

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

That is correct, with a few adjustments.

 

i have no view on the conservative element in Brazilian politics.

I simply don't know enough about them.

 

The fact that I spent so much time there informs me to conclude that it is preposterous to assume one can watch this stuff on US media and have any informed view of what goes on there.

Brazil is a lot like other South American countries.

There is massive class stratification and massive political corruption.

Whomever is the current popular choice is usually temporary and media driven, and always plays to the beneficiaries of that corruption, which is a way of life and not easily understood by Americans. or consumers of American media.

Saw it firsthand and was made aware from many others who experienced it.

 

Either way, I put no causal suggestion on what happened here and what happened there,

These things have been going on forever.

 

So the same as here.

[sherpa]

21 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

So the same as here.

 

Not even remotely close.

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

14 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Not even remotely close.

 

ever been to Louisiana?

[sherpa]

4 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

ever been to Louisiana?

 

Yep. Not close.

It's pure American naivete to suggest that the corruption here approaches what goes on in South/Central America.

Loved spending time there and running a business that sourced materials and labor in Paraguay, but doing business there, and shipping through Argentina is a "unique" experience.

[B-Man]

 

[LeviF]

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