MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 McD should NOT get a thrid attempt to fail at OC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) This is one of the best Buffalo defenses I've ever seen. If not for the atrocious offense and special teams muffs they would've allowed maybe 3 points. Theyre wasting in Kyle Williams last year. Edited October 14, 2018 by ChronicAndKnuckles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I’m all for firing Dabol. But McDermott has to accountable for his hirings. 2 years and 2 awful OC hirings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: McD should NOT get a thrid attempt to fail at OC Exactly. If I'm the Pegulas, I'm hiring an Offensive consultant to make this decision. McDermott will have to live with it since he has proven to know little about offense and largely ignore it aside from drafting a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: McD should NOT get a thrid attempt to fail at OC We can't even score a touchdown without the aid of a turnover! The only way to go is UP. There was less than 100 yards passing the whole game. Why is he still here????? So what if the offense has to learn new terminology? The offense hasn't had a TD in 7 quarters up until that fluke Peterman TD. Why shouldn't he have a third attempt? Players get benched and released all the time so why can't an under performing coach? Not only is it horrible play calling, it's also horrible clock management (wasting a time out after Houston burned one of theres on that bluff 4th down conversion attempt) I thought that was smart to make Houston use a time out, but then they go and use one of theres! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 We need a quarterback that is at least fairly competent before we fire anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, ChronicAndKnuckles said: We can't even score a touchdown without the aid of a turnover! The only way to go is UP. There was less than 100 yards passing the whole game. Why is he still here????? So what if the offense has to learn new terminology? The offense hasn't had a TD in 7 quarters up until that fluke Peterman TD. Why shouldn't he have a third attempt? Players get benched and released all the time so why can't an under performing coach? Not only is it horrible play calling, it's also horrible clock management (wasting a time out after Houston burned one of theres on that bluff 4th down conversion attempt) I thought that was smart to make Houston use a time out, but then they go and use one of theres! Why should McD get s THIRD chance to fail at OC???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: You guy still want Daboll? Puts the last drive in Petermans hands when they should've made the Texans burn their timeouts with runs. They had the game for sure going into overtime. Yep genius calls back to back short out patterns to benjamin Seriously what are you trying to do? Risky throw for a 5 yard gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFL Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, wppete said: I’m all for firing Dabol. But McDermott has to accountable for his hirings. 2 years and 2 awful OC hirings. I will repeat what I have said before.....Daboll is the worst OC in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Why should McD get s THIRD chance to fail at OC???? Because if you fire McD you throw out the baby on defense with the bath water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, RFL said: I will repeat what I have said before.....Daboll is the worst OC in the NFL. Then should the person that Hired thr two worst OCs in the NFL be held accountable?? Just now, BringBackOrton said: Because if you fire McD you throw out the baby on defense with the bath water. Then maybe he is over his head as a HC and back to being a DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: McD should NOT get a thrid attempt to fail at OC That is not an unfair suggestion. The way the QB position has been handled going into the regular season and now is also pretty damning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said: Yep genius calls back to back short out patterns to benjamin Seriously what are you trying to do? Risky throw for a 5 yard gain On an OUT pattern too if I recall too which even the casual fan can tell you is a formula for a Peterman pick 6. This one hurt....a lot. I usually don't let these Bills games affect me like that, but with all the ups & downs of this game I feel defeated. I feel horrible that we are wasting this defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Then maybe he is over his head as a HC and back to being a DC. Uh, you can't demote him. Try to be serious here for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Uh, you can't demote him. Try to be serious here for a second. Then he gets fired. See how easy that is. Not hard to have a good defense when a majority of you top assets have been focused in that side of the Ball is he a HC or a DC. If he is the HC he ABSOLUTELY needs to be held accountable for the **** show that os Special Teams and Offense Edited October 14, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Then he gets fired. See how easy that is. Then you lose any progress made on the defensive side of the ball, and you still have no guarantee a good OC comes to town. See how stupid that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 If Daboll goes McDermott should go too. How many cracks at finding the right OC should he get? It's time to hire an offensive minded head coach IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
******* Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 He’s fooking trash and so is allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Then you lose any progress made on the defensive side of the ball, and you still have no guarantee a good OC comes to town. See how stupid that is? No you dont. Who calls the defense game day? any good DC takes this talent on Defense and does exactly the same. Thats what happens when you spend most of your good assets in that side of ball Edited October 14, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Thank god we got rid of Tyrod and Dennison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: On an OUT pattern too if I recall too which even the casual fan can tell you is a formula for a Peterman pick 6. This one hurt....a lot. I usually don't let these Bills games affect me like that, but with all the ups & downs of this game I feel defeated. I feel horrible that we are wasting this defense. Well its on daboll for callling the play and on Peterman for seeing the corner has a safety right behind him and still throwing it. I'm convinced Peterman looks pre snap and throws to the one spot regardless of what he processes post snap I dont think I have seen someone throw that many pick 6's in that few attempts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: No you dont. Who calls the defense game day? Uh, Frazier is running McD's defense. And McD had to strip him of playcalling duties this year once already. Little chance your "offensive HC" retains a DC Frazier who will run McD ball. Close to zero. Pay attention to the NFL. 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Thank god we got rid of Tyrod and Dennison! Tyrod Taylor had 19 yards at halftime in his last game. Enough with the slander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Uh, Frazier is running McD's defense. And McD had to strip him of playcalling duties this year once already. Little chance your "offensive HC" retains a DC Frazier who will run McD ball. Close to zero. Pay attention to the NFL. Really ok then the HC brings in a DC that runs a 4-3. Not hard. Is McD the HC or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, wppete said: I’m all for firing Dabol. But McDermott has to accountable for his hirings. 2 years and 2 awful OC hirings. .....not sure of Daboll's pedigree as bonafide OC with a rookie at QB.......guess then a significant learning curve should be expected, but he has been very inconsistent week to week.....don't think he has shown much ability to adjust to what the defense is giving either..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Really ok then the HC brings in a DC that runs a 4-3. Not hard. Is McD the HC or no? The HC will want to pick his own staff. You don't demand who he hires as coordinators. Watch the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: The HC will want to pick his own staff. You don't demand who he hires as coordinators. Watch the NFL. Is McD the HC or the DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Is McD the HC or the DC? He is the head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Uh, Frazier is running McD's defense. And McD had to strip him of playcalling duties this year once already. Little chance your "offensive HC" retains a DC Frazier who will run McD ball. Close to zero. Pay attention to the NFL. Tyrod Taylor had 19 yards at halftime in his last game. Enough with the slander. If we are talking defamation law, the term you are looking for is libel, not slander. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: He is the head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Cool then he needs to also be held accountable for the **** Show that is Offense and the Horrendous ST for the last two years. Also needs to be held accountable for how this team is built. And how they have handled the Qab Position. Ignored the OL thought a Rookie or a Peterman would do anything with this offense. So MORE Negatives than the ONE Positive of Defense. So should he NOT be held Accountable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Uh, Frazier is running McD's defense. And McD had to strip him of playcalling duties this year once already. Little chance your "offensive HC" retains a DC Frazier who will run McD ball. Close to zero. Pay attention to the NFL. Tyrod Taylor had 19 yards at halftime in his last game. Enough with the slander. yet somehow, our offense performed better. the O has been putrid this year. not placing that on JA or Peterman. it's all on McD and Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I have to re-rank the stupidest posts now. 1. Fire "someone" because we didn't take Mahomes 2. Fire McDermott and Bean 3. Fire Daboll OP got the Bronze medal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Cool then he needs to also be held accountable for the **** Show that is Offense and the Horrendous ST for the last two years. Also needs to be held accountable for how this team is built. And how they have handled the Qab Position. Ignored the OL thought a Rookie or a Peterman would do anything with this offense. So MORE Negatives than the ONE Positive of Defense. So should he NOT be held Accountable? If "held accountable" means "fired", then no, he shouldn't be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, 87168 said: yet somehow, our offense performed better. the O has been putrid this year. not placing that on JA or Peterman. it's all on McD and Beane. Ultimately, that's fair. Actually, it is a function of our QBs being terrible, but McD and Beane were supposed to be aware of that and provide us with an option for this season while Allen develops. Or they could have started Allen from Game 1 and go that route with his development, at which point a little investment in the OL and trying to get 1 solid WR might have been wise. McD and Beane are starting to look a lot like Doug Whaley, in that they seem to be managing things reactively, as they come up. At first, they seemed way out in front of everything and were proactively executing a defined plan. That seems to be gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I knew before the Bills played a single snap that it wouldn't take long for fans to be calling for the OC to be fired. Usually, it's unwarranted and impossible to judge based on such horrible personnel. But it's the game-losing decisions that are finally making me break.... With 1:34 left, game tied 13 to 13, wtf was the mindset going into that drive?! Most people would think "make the Texans burn their 2 timeouts, run down the clock, and play to flip field position considering how phenomenal our defense is playing!" On top of that, if we get a 1st down or 2, THEN we can consider playing a bit more aggressively and go to close it out. That's BEFORE taking into account who was behind center and how inept the offense has been, but factoring those 2 things in should've GUARANTEED there was no other choice their. But no... we foolishly go all Bills mode out there, proving that McDermott is cut from the same cloth as all those boneheaded hires before him. Incomplete pass, stopping the clock, leading to a 2nd pass and an easy game-sealing pick 6. It's maddening to watch something so predictable yet preventable consistently ruin games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Im legitimately on the fence. We knew this had potential to be a historically bad unit. So it’s a matter of is he making them as good or better than the talent level.... I don’t know. There’s so little talent in the passing game. I wish they would’ve built the offense first knowing a young qb was in the early plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuklz2594 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 not his fault that josh allen is not ready and peterman is brutal. the wr corps could the worst in the entire league. the penalties did not help either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Im legitimately on the fence. We knew this had potential to be a historically bad unit. So it’s a matter of is he making them as good or better than the talent level.... I don’t know. There’s so little talent in the passing game. I wish they would’ve built the offense first knowing a young qb was in the early plans. Agreed. The defense should be the ones built with scraps. Spending a first on Edmunds rather than keeping Brown and drafting a Ridley etc hurts the offense far more than it helps on D. Edited October 14, 2018 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, boater said: I have to re-rank the stupidest posts now. 1. Fire "someone" because we didn't take Mahomes 2. Fire McDermott and Bean 3. Fire Daboll OP got the Bronze medal. You must be one of those fans that are perfectly fine with having the worst offense in the league. The Bills could go 7-9 every year and you'd still be content. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: If "held accountable" means "fired", then no, he shouldn't be held accountable. Held accountable. Means yeah he should have a thrid chance at picking a OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoid8jr Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Offense is a total dumpster fire. I feel for Josh Allen. I have this kids back 100% but Daboll is awful. Not sure who is guiding the offense but we have no identity which has been the case since Bledsoe. Curious if anyone knows about the worst passing stats within the past 15ish years. I have to think our offense this year is about the worst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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