IDBillzFan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: If Josh Allen played like Rosen did tonight half this board would be in a nuclear meltdown wanting everyone fired...Arizona is probably going to do just that tomorrow In his best Chandler Bing voice: "Uhhhh, have you been here lately??" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Just wait for Josh Allen week one next year bro. “He hasn’t started 16 games yet, he’s still a rookie.” I live for it I remember when that was used for Tyrod as well. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: BPA would have been Roquan Smith. Who is very good, but basically equivalent to Tremaine Edmunds, who we acquired as well. We made the right move given the circumstances and options at the time. I dont mind at all that we drafted Allen. This was a good year to take a shot at a QB and not have to sell the farm. Imagine if we moved up for Allen and gave up something crazy. If Allen busts it would not set us that far back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said: One of the biggest reasons I didn't want Rosen was his attitude. I didn't think coming from a rich family/southern CA lifestyle would mix well in Buffalo. His mannerisms last night when things weren't going his way came off kind of like a Jay Cutler, just kind of pissy, and I believe that stems from his upbringing. Allen is much more humble and down to earth, more "Blue collar" so to speak. That may not mean anything in terms of if he will ever be a good qb, but I am happy with our pick of Allen over Rosen, Allen may take longer to get to a final product of a "franchise qb" but he is a perfect fit for Buffalo and he has all the potential in the world. I just hope he learns quick, because Buffalo fans are VERY IMPATIENT Rosen had a ton of red flags at UCLA and I'm not going to go into all of them, I think most of the fans know he has some attitude issues and some durability issues. He's a better pure passer and more accurate than Allen but I don't think he'll be in the league nearly as long. Josh Allen just has a lot of stuff to clean up in his game and this may take three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Broncos Dominate Against Turnover-Plagued Cardinals Embattled Cardinals offensive coordinator Mike McCoy can't be pleased with how the game started -- or ended -- with Arizona calling a time out just two plays in. From there, Rosen flung a pass that was tipped by Denver's Derek Wolfe into the waiting arms of linebacker Todd Davis, who rumbled 20 yards for the pick-six just 59 seconds into the affair. McCoy was seeing ghosts after Rosen subsequently whipped a late first-quarter toss into the hands of Chris Harris, Jr., who soared 53 yards for another Denver defensive score. That play saw J.J. Nelson stop on his route, a decision that cost the Cardinals early. There's nothing wrong with Rosen's arm -- or his potential. His ugly box score (21-of-39 passing for 194 yards with one TD and the three picks) was partly the result of a broken-down scheme and plenty of punishment, with the rookie visiting the medical tent after being slammed helmet-first into the turf on a second-down sack by Shaquil Barrett before the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: I dont mind at all that we drafted Allen. This was a good year to take a shot at a QB and not have to sell the farm. Imagine if we moved up for Allen and gave up something crazy. If Allen busts it would not set us that far back. Something like pick 21, pick 53, pick 158, pick 195, Cordy Glenn, and Sammy Watkins? Granted we also got 1 year of EJ Gaines out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I remember when that was used for Tyrod as well. Good times. You mean 8 year veteran Tahrod Taylor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: You mean 8 year veteran Tahrod Taylor? He hadn’t started 16 games! He was still technically a rookie bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Something like pick 21, pick 53, pick 158, pick 195, Cordy Glenn, and Sammy Watkins? Granted we also got 1 year of EJ Gaines out of that. Lol...you silly bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Von Miller is something else! I can't remember who it was, but someone on TSW claimed before the season that he was no longer an impact player and said he should be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Forget placing the blame on the INTS, has anyone seen a QB with such careless ball handling? All of the fumbles were from light taps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: I'm pretty sure there are certain folks tied to analytics that based on said criteria massively preferred Rosen to Allen. Last night's game is not dispositive, but it surely shows that nearly all rookie qbs struggle, especially when they start under less than optimum conditions. The moral ought to be, have more patience and give a fella time to develop before making definitive pronouncements on how someone will turn out. Let's see if anyone takes that to heart. i'd go further and say that the moral is: folks tied to analytics usually have no idea how statistics actually works. especially the self-professed experts. and i've got the stats to prove it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Forget placing the blame on the INTS, has anyone seen a QB with such careless ball handling? All of the fumbles were from light taps I. Thou shalt not point out Josh Rosen's glaring deficiencies. II. Thou shalt only point out Josh Allen's glaring deficiencies. III. Thou shalt criticize the front office for taking Josh Allen instead of Josh Rosen. IV. Thou shalt not attempt to reconcile these seemingly disparate commandments, especially when comparing the nearly identical output of the two QBs. Now, I only need 6 more. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Something like pick 21, pick 53, pick 158, pick 195, Cordy Glenn, and Sammy Watkins? Granted we also got 1 year of EJ Gaines out of that. If you are going to include Sammy then you have to include that we got a 2nd rounder as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Jeez, a 14 page thread (so far) on Rosen. Imagine that?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Magox said: If you are going to include Sammy then you have to include that we got a 2nd rounder as well. That's literally what I did. The 2nd rounder we used in the trade cost us Sammy. The trade to 7 cost us pick 12 (which cost us pick 21, Pick 158, and Cordy Glenn), pick 53, and pick 56 (which cost us pick 195 and Sammy, but got us 1 year of EJ Gaines). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, GG said: Forget placing the blame on the INTS, has anyone seen a QB with such careless ball handling? All of the fumbles were from light taps Tiny hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I think Rosen and all the other rookie QBs will eventually become long term starters in the league. None of them necessarily great HOF types, but all will be solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Imagine how low it would have been if all those DB's didn't drop those passes thrown right into their hands. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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