John from Riverside Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Did you believe that before or after the Bills drafted him? I didn’t want us to draft him so I’m not going to pretend I think he is some special talent now. that said, I wish he was sitting. I feel like that is his best chance for long term success and not playing with the worst offense in the nfl. He is used to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: He is used to that Used to what John? and for the record, I hate that I’m not more optimistic. It sucks. I just think we are doing everything all wrong yet again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Did you believe that before or after the Bills drafted him? I didn’t want us to draft him so I’m not going to pretend I think he is some special talent now. that said, I wish he was sitting. I feel like that is his best chance for long term success and not playing with the worst offense in the nfl. I thought he was the highest ceiling......lowest floor QB Always liked him.....from a personal standpoint we have a lot in common.......he has already faced a lot of adversity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I thought he was the highest ceiling......lowest floor QB Always liked him.....from a personal standpoint we have a lot in common.......he has already faced a lot of adversity. I respect your opinion and wish I had more of it. But there’s a reason why 6’5” guys with rocket arms aren’t getting heavily recruited. I don’t know if you can survive in the nfl being this inaccurate. And this team isn’t helping him. Why couldn’t we get him on the Mahomes plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I respect your opinion and wish I had more of it. But there’s a reason why 6’5” guys with rocket arms aren’t getting heavily recruited. I don’t know if you can survive in the nfl being this inaccurate. And this team isn’t helping him. Why couldn’t we get him on the Mahomes plan? I do wish they had put more thought into a veteran QB to start this year...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFL Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 8 hours ago, RyanC883 said: My 2 cents. I did not want to draft Allen due to accuracy issues. But he has been better than I thought. He is mentally strong, and can move in the pocket. He also has ZERO help at the WR and OL positions, 2 areas where rookie QB's need help. If he doesn't improve, I can see us taking another QB in the 1st round next year, or early 2nd depending. Nothing to be lost by putting him out there now. We will still need an OL and true #1 WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The Bills have to find a way to run the ball effectively. Without that no QB will be effective. Run blocking should be the easiest weakness for the O-line to correct. The Bills have a good stable of backs and lousy receivers. The defense has no chance if the offense is operating in 3rd and long constantly and can't sustain some drives. They need to conquer the basics and the QB's will get better at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Utah John said: The biggest mystery to me is why the Bills traded McCarron. He was mediocre but competent, and he would have let Allen sit and watch. Peterman is not ever going to work out. Someone if the front office or on the coaching staff, or both, thought Peterman was ready. They were dreadfully, scary, wrong! And that is what scares me the most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 AJM’s play in preseason was poor. And has anyone said that he was a mentor to Josh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, RyanC883 said: My 2 cents. I did not want to draft Allen due to accuracy issues. But he has been better than I thought. He is mentally strong, and can move in the pocket. He also has ZERO help at the WR and OL positions, 2 areas where rookie QB's need help. If he doesn't improve, I can see us taking another QB in the 1st round next year, or early 2nd depending. Nothing to be lost by putting him out there now. Why is the rookie QB you moved up to the top of the draft for playing behind a ****ty o line with no receivers? Why was Star given 10 million dollars per for 5 years after having underperformed the last 3 season's? Why would you pay a draft pick and 3.5 million dollars to a wr who was on the team for 2 weeks and never played a down? Why would you spend your free agent money on washed up defensive players when you have a rookie qb, a ****ty o line and no wrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Bottom line is, issues that plagued him in college remain. Can he overcome them with time and experience? Color me skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Clause Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/ManuEJ00/gamelog/2013/ EJ had 2 tds, 0 ints, and left the field with the lead against the Pats. Allen’s stats (obviously not all on him) aren’t completely awful because of garbage time when the Chargers were just trying to catch their flight. that said, as awful as their development plan was with Allen, they can’t plug him now. So first drive of the second half they were trying to catch their flight, awesome anaylisis ? SMH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: The Bills have to find a way to run the ball effectively. Without that no QB will be effective. Run blocking should be the easiest weakness for the O-line to correct. The Bills have a good stable of backs and lousy receivers. The defense has no chance if the offense is operating in 3rd and long constantly and can't sustain some drives. They need to conquer the basics and the QB's will get better at the same time. The offensive line is the key to a good run game and the Bills don't have one, knew they didn't have one, and did next to nothing to address it. They spent on washed up d players while knowing They were drafting a QB high in the draft and did nothing for the o line and wrs. Inexplicable. Edited September 20, 2018 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I don't understand why people expect so much from Josh Allen. The future is now and he is in the game. Let the disaster season roll on and give him a few games to rise up or flame out. It looks terrible now but the team could still find itself a little this season and give me hope. Edited September 20, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Tyrod Taylor threw for more than 245 yards SEVEN total times in his career with Buffalo. Allen did it in his first start. I have no idea what this means. But I think the kid is on the right track despite being in the worst situation imaginable for a 21 year old rookie. I watch every QB from Cam to Carr to Stafford make throws (lots of them) and go......really? That was hideous. Let it play out. The good news without question he looks like he belongs, has respect of his teammates, and did not lose his cool when things were going bad. Also, the Chargers could be a Super Bowl team. Same Vikings. I'm just excited to see this kid play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Allen was terrible. His timing is so far off right now. His eyes are slower than his feet. He isn't seeing the field. That scares me. Hopefully the game will slow down for him. Just have to let him play to find out. Might not be until next season. Edited September 20, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 13 hours ago, dubs said: Twitter is the worst. Twitter is a high tech peanut gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 People are awfully quick to assess this guy's ability. After watching the all-22 I was a little discouraged, but it's one game. He did miss some open receivers, and his passes weren't pretty, but overall the receivers weren't doing a good job of getting open and he couldn't have much confidence in his protection holding up, which may have caused him to rush his throws. He didn't get much support from the running game either. If he looks like this in week 10 I'll be concerned, but for now I'm going to sit back and hope for the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 57 minutes ago, Rob's House said: He did miss some open receivers, and his passes weren't pretty, but overall the receivers weren't doing a good job of getting open and he couldn't have much confidence in his protection holding up, which may have caused him to rush his throws. His receivers did help him by making some circus catches on some would be errant throws. Specifically (whipping boy) DiMarco and Clay on the sidelines. Nice play by Zay Jones on the long ball. Protection was not horrible IMHO. He had a lot of time on a lot of plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Well the ONE thing he was supposed to be good at ended up being one of his biggest flaws this game... His ability to throw the ball downfield with ease & to hit WR's deep in stride was the main positive trait he had in regards to actual on-field ability. Yet he severely under threw several receivers on routes that would've been sure-thing TD's had he only hit them in stride. A few could've been picked off or just dropped in the dirt had it not been for some great awareness & heads-up plays by the receivers, adjusting their routes & cutting back to catch the ball behind them. Missing those short & intermediate passes? We knew he was inaccurate. Getting sacked a ton? We knew our O-line was one of the worst in the league. Poor decision-making? He was never known for his ability to read a defense, is a rookie, and had his first start, so that's not a shock. Throwing those INT's? When the O-line sucks, that's what happens...ask Peterman. So yeah, his performance was bad. All signs heading into the season pointed to him playing just like this. Unfortunately, he also failed at the one thing he's supposed to excel at...It's ok though, I'm sure that won't last, and that he'll not under throw so many people the more time he has to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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