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I was concerned that Murphy looked better running the ball then McCoy did behind the same line......

 

McCoy is supposed to be the main offensive play maker.   Very hard running for him today.....actually thought Murphy was more effective.

 

 

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1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

No RB will see success with Peterman at QB.

Zero respect for the passing game leads to no running game. 

 

Barry Sanders in his prime would be ineffective on this team.

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3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I was concerned that Murphy looked better running the ball then McCoy did behind the same line......

 

McCoy is supposed to be the main offensive play maker.   Very hard running for him today.....actually thought Murphy was more effective.

 

 

 

McCoy has always been the sort of back who needs a skilled line.

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4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I was concerned that Murphy looked better running the ball then McCoy did behind the same line......

 

McCoy is supposed to be the main offensive play maker.   Very hard running for him today.....actually thought Murphy was more effective.

 

 

I think its fair to say, McCoy wasn't inspired. 

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He needs carries.    When you go 3 and out 6 times in a row it's tough to get a rhythm 

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Murphy was mainly rushing on draw plays on 2nd and 3rd and 10+. That is why he got a lot of yards. The few times he ran on 1st down he was equally ineffective. 

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I'm afraid that it's yet another year of opposition stacking the box to stuff the run due to no talented receivers or a good offensive line. 

 

I'm with others that say we should trade Shady while he still has his health. He's really not going to do us a lot of good this year, unfortunately. 

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1 minute ago, Bacchus44 said:

I'm afraid that it's yet another year of opposition stacking the box to stuff the run due to no talented receivers or a good offensive line. 

 

I'm with others that say we should trade Shady while he still has his health. He's really not going to do us a lot of good this year, unfortunately. 

just connect on a few passes downfield and watch what happens.

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17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I was concerned that Murphy looked better running the ball then McCoy did behind the same line......

 

McCoy is supposed to be the main offensive play maker.   Very hard running for him today.....actually thought Murphy was more effective.

 

 

mccoy seems to be a seasoned vet that has learned to pick his spots. murphy is a guy that is trying to prove his worth and will be trying to get every inch possible. shady is probably conserving his energy for when he can see a bit of daylight.

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they need to trade him for a draft pick if possible. Not sure what they could get. Hopefully a playoff team loses a RB. Maybe Pitt if Bell doesn't show. Goes back to Pennslyvania. 

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14 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

I think its fair to say, McCoy wasn't inspired. 

Probably because he wants too play foorball. Not run into the fat ass O-lineman in front of him. 

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4 minutes ago, swnybillsfan said:

just connect on a few passes downfield and watch what happens.

But that might be few and far between when your QB is running for his life on nearly every play - especially when we don't have much talent at WR.

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McCoy is fine.  I would be ok with them moving him for draft capital He's not going to be the same back by the time they fix the roster

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22 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I was concerned that Murphy looked better running the ball then McCoy did behind the same line......

 

McCoy is supposed to be the main offensive play maker.   Very hard running for him today.....actually thought Murphy was more effective.

 

 

 

 Murphy is a one cut runner, shady likes to jump around before making a move, so he had less room to make all his moves.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I was concerned that Murphy looked better running the ball then McCoy did behind the same line......

 

McCoy is supposed to be the main offensive play maker.   Very hard running for him today.....actually thought Murphy was more effective.

 

 

 

Murphy got a bunch of carries in obvious passing downs or late in the half when the D is giving up yards on the ground to get off the field.

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14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Murphy was mainly rushing on draw plays on 2nd and 3rd and 10+. That is why he got a lot of yards. The few times he ran on 1st down he was equally ineffective. 

 

Agreed.   Draw plays in long down and distance situations will make most RBs look impressive...

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4 minutes ago, Bacchus44 said:

But that might be few and far between when your QB is running for his life on nearly every play - especially when we don't have much talent at WR.

well, this will be on the coaches to figure out a way to git r done. if they send the house, then you need to find the open man. if they sit back, you need to take what they give. if you are completely inept, then you will be looking for employment elsewhere.

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14 hours ago, Bacchus44 said:

I'm afraid that it's yet another year of opposition stacking the box to stuff the run due to no talented receivers or a good offensive line. 

 

I'm with others that say we should trade Shady while he still has his health. He's really not going to do us a lot of good this year, unfortunately. 

Not sure they will be able to stack the box with Allen.  One thing we know is he will push it down the field.  

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14 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Murphy was mainly rushing on draw plays on 2nd and 3rd and 10+. That is why he got a lot of yards. The few times he ran on 1st down he was equally ineffective. 

Exactly. So many things were awful that there is no need to invent some.

 

But the running back group is solid. With that OL they can't just "pound the ball", but they could mix things up. Use Murphy or Ivory at the same time as McCoy, use Shady more in sweeps, short passes in the flat, as a WR facing a LB. He needs space! And in the 1st half use Ivory to soften up that defense so Shady has more running room and a fresh body for the 2nd half.

 

 

 

 

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