LABILLBACKER Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Well Marcus Murphy doesn't suck ................... trying to be positive. Murphy looked good ( not the worthless DE ) Bojo looked great That's all I got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Peter said: My point is that I do not think the result would have been any different with many (or most) other QBs. We have huge problems across the board. If we focus on Peterman alone, we will ignore the fact that this team has enormous problems (players, coaching, front office). We have other problems. But you cannot trot that utter shambles of a QB out again. You have to start there with the changes. 2 minutes ago, Peter said: McCoach said that he needs to look at the tape. Hmmm. I feel sorry for him having to watch that tape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 McD REALLY has to start watching the games he’s coaching. This ‘I have to watch the tape’ bull **** is ridiculous coachspeak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB@Shooter Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, Peter said: I get your point, but the problem with Josh is that he is so raw to begin with . . . he is a lot less refined than someone like an Andrew Luck was when he came into the league. And so he grows with the team. He doesn't get any better sitting or watching NP play ahead of him. Let him grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: We have other problems. But you cannot trot that utter shambles of a QB out again. You have to start there with the changes. The problem is that we backed ourselves in a corner. We traded AJ (which I thought was a mistake for a variety of reasons). We have managed to create a horrible offensive line. Right now, the alternative to starting Peterman (who was horrible) is starting Josh. I think Josh has potential (how much I do not know) and is VERY raw. I would hope that we do not destroy or stunt whatever potential he might have by getting him killed behind that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Peter said: The problem is that we backed ourselves in a corner. We traded AJ (which I thought was a mistake for a variety of reasons). We have managed to create a horrible offensive line. Right now, the alternative to starting Peterman (who was horrible) is starting Josh. I think Josh has potential (how much I do not know) and is VERY raw. I would hope that we do not destroy or stunt whatever potential he might have by getting him killed behind that line. How did we create a horrible o line when two of them left themselves? Olinemen are the most difficult players to find in free agency. Edited September 9, 2018 by BillsEnthusiast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Are you confusing scared with no receivers open? No I'm seeing a guy who panics back there. Hence his INTs. One on an overthrow(how the hell do you overthrow a 6'5" WR by 10 feet), and one on a panic throw under pressure. Allen does not. He still seems calm. He might take a bunch of sacks but I'd rather that than a dude who will throw a ball up for grabs. Edited September 9, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Schopp: McCoach acts like he did not see the game. Indeed. I am not even sure that he coached or watched the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB@Shooter Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Peter said: My point is that I do not think the result would have been any different with many (or most) other QBs. We have huge problems across the board. If we focus on Peterman alone, we will ignore the fact that this team has enormous problems (players, coaching, front office). Clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: No I'm seeing a guy who panics back there. Hence his INTs. One on an overthrow(how the hell do you overthrow a 6'5" WR), and one on a panic throw under pressure. Allen does not. He still seems calm. He might take a bunch of sacks but I'd rather that than a dude who will throw a ball up for grabs. Benjamin stopped running on both plays on timing routes. MCD should bench him after he sees what happened. Edited September 9, 2018 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, jkirchofer said: Yeah, talent has a lot to do with it, but McDermott and Daboll failed to build a game plan that the talent could handle or even execute. This is just as much their fault as it is the player's fault. We also need to credit the Baltimore Ravens football team.. They were good in all areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Clockwork said: McD REALLY has to start watching the games he’s coaching. This ‘I have to watch the tape’ bull **** is ridiculous coachspeak. I'd say it's the same as with McCarron after preseason game 4 he didn't say he was there to get traded but it seemed fairly obvious. He's not just going to throw Peterman under the bus right after the game. He'll probably look at the film make his decision then they'll know the starter as soon as practice starts up again for the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Peter said: The problem is that we backed ourselves in a corner. We traded AJ (which I thought was a mistake for a variety of reasons). We have managed to create a horrible offensive line. Right now, the alternative to starting Peterman (who was horrible) is starting Josh. I think Josh has potential (how much I do not know) and is VERY raw. I would hope that we do not destroy or stunt whatever potential he might have by getting him killed behind that line. Doesn't matter. You can't throw Peterman out there again. Do that in a home game the stands will be empty by half time. Their plan for Allen might be to sit him. By hitching their wagon to Peterman they blew that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: No I'm seeing a guy who panics back there. Hence his INTs. One on an overthrow(how the hell do you overthrow a 6'5" WR by 10 feet), and one on a panic throw under pressure. Allen does not. He still seems calm. He might take a bunch of sacks but I'd rather that than a dude who will throw a ball up for grabs. Probably the ball slipped out of his hands. But carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: How did we create a horrible o line when two of them left themselves? Olinemen are the most difficult players to find in free agency. Read my previous posts on this subject. In a nutshell: We have had all off season to replace Wood. We did not. We foolishly decided to nickel and dime our pro bowl guard. In my judgment, I think that Richie would be just fine if he was part of the team an we did not stupidly force the pay cut. I presume you disagree. History demonstrated that he was fine while in the structure of the team. We traded. Cordy Glenn when I would have kept him. I never saw Cordy get manhandled like Dion got manhandled against the Browns. We made no attempt to re-sign Seantrel. Our former VP, however, signed him as soon as he became GM of the Texans. According to everything I read, Seantrel has played well for the Texans (and well against JJ Watt in practice). Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB@Shooter Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Peter said: The problem is that we backed ourselves in a corner. We traded AJ (which I thought was a mistake for a variety of reasons). We have managed to create a horrible offensive line. Right now, the alternative to starting Peterman (who was horrible) is starting Josh. I think Josh has potential (how much I do not know) and is VERY raw. I would hope that we do not destroy or stunt whatever potential he might have by getting him killed behind that line. Did you watch any preseason? What do you have against Allen? NP had 1 start under his belt and threw 5 interceptions. Now he has 7. N P sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: Doesn't matter. You can't throw Peterman out there again. Do that in a home game the stands will be empty by half time. Their plan for Allen might be to sit him. By hitching their wagon to Peterman they blew that. Not even the fans the players need to know that you want to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Peter said: McCoach said that he needs to look at the tape. Hmmm. He probably didn’t watch the game. I don’t blame him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, BB@Shooter said: Clueless. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Allen, Murphy, the punter, and the fact that if the Ravens can totally rebuild their WR corp in one offseason, so can the Bills No big injuries Ravens also made a big use of their TE. Where were Clay and the other guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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