Buffalo716 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Fred Jackson , one of my favorite and a lot of peoples favorite Bills from the last 20 years refuses to quit Still going strong in the AFFL(American flag football league) Fred just scored 2 TDs to help his team beat Michael Vick’s Squad Fred is a great football player and an even better person and I’m glad he as always represented Buffalo with class and pride Miss ya Freddie https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/07/watch_former_buffalo_bills_rb_fred_jackson_scores_2_tds_in_affl_semifinals_win.amp 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) I saw a commercial for the AFFL and they mentioned Freddie. Glad to see the guy is still earning that nice gwop. Edited July 8, 2018 by The Jerk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 My favorite Bill of all time 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 He'll still be better than the last RB on our final roster. GO FredEX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'd take him over ivory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Arguably the greatest Bill since the superbowl years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: He'll still be better than the last RB on our final roster. GO FredEX! I’d wager he is better than alot of backs still Probably better than Cadet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, Homey D. Clown said: Arguably the greatest Bill since the superbowl years. Not really. Kyle Williams is easily better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Clearly- it was time to move on.... to Tolbert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, Thunderstruck said: Clearly- it was time to move on.... to Tolbert HAHAHAHA - You almost made me spit my lunch out laughing so hard!! "Screen-pass to the flat, and Tolbert tackled for an 8 yard loss!" Hey, let's try that again. We'll get it right THIS time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: HAHAHAHA - You almost made me spit my lunch out laughing so hard!! "Screen-pass to the flat, and Tolbert tackled for an 8 yard loss!" Hey, let's try that again. We'll get it right THIS time!!! But come playoff time with wind blowing 25mph and a 0-0 game; when we march 90 yards to the 1 yard against one of the best defence in the league, we decide to throw fades and a bunch of other stupid plays. yes, I'm still pissed at the play calling on the 1 yard line that would most likely have won the game even if it was only the second quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, MJS said: Not really. Kyle Williams is easily better. Oh my God, no. This can't be a serious post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: I’d wager he is better than alot of backs still Probably better than Cadet Right now he's better than Bush, Ivory, Cadet, Tolbutt.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Oh my God, no. This can't be a serious post. Are you being serious? Kyle has gone to 5 pro bowls. Fred Jackson was an average player on terrible teams. Great guy and the only decent player to watch for years on offense, but Kyle has easily had a better career. Go look at Fred's stats. He was never an elite player. He was average. What makes Fred great are the intangibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, MJS said: Are you being serious? Kyle has gone to 5 pro bowls. Fred Jackson was an average player on terrible teams. Great guy and the only decent player to watch for years on offense, but Kyle has easily had a better career. Go look at Fred's stats. He was never an elite player. He was average. What makes Fred great are the intangibles. Kyle Williams was never elite. Pro Bowls mean nothing. He, too, was an average player on terrible teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: Kyle Williams was never elite. Pro Bowls mean nothing. He, too, was an average player on terrible teams. I think most people would agree that Kyle Williams has been a very good player. It's obvious, though, that you have a bias for some reason, so I'm not going to bother. Have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said: Arguably the greatest Bill since the superbowl years. Eric Moulds i mean god bless Fred, but you are seriously putting this guy up as your best ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Man, I appreciated Fred's effort as a Buffalo Bill as much as anyone but people sure do like worshiping "decent" players on bad teams. Aside from 2011, when Fred was off to an awesome start until he got hurt, he had "nice" statistics but nothing that jumps out at you. Really hard worker, great guy, and some memorable moments as a Bill, but certainly never an "elite" RB in the NFL. He overcame pretty ridiculous odds to fashion a 9-year NFL career and should be commended for that. He doesn't belong in the NFL in 2018 and to suggest he's "better" right now, at age 37, than RBs on NFL rosters is a bit silly. Could he suit up, carry the ball a few times, and catch a few passes? Sure, but not at the expense of younger players with more potential. When someone starts clamoring for Fred to be on the Bills' wall of fame, my eyes will really start rolling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, MJS said: I think most people would agree that Kyle Williams has been a very good player. It's obvious, though, that you have a bias for some reason, so I'm not going to bother. Have a nice day! I have a bias for some reason because I don't think Kyle Williams was a great player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, eball said: Man, I appreciated Fred's effort as a Buffalo Bill as much as anyone but people sure do like worshiping "decent" players on bad teams. Aside from 2011, when Fred was off to an awesome start until he got hurt, he had "nice" statistics but nothing that jumps out at you. Really hard worker, great guy, and some memorable moments as a Bill, but certainly never an "elite" RB in the NFL. He overcame pretty ridiculous odds to fashion a 9-year NFL career and should be commended for that. He doesn't belong in the NFL in 2018 and to suggest he's "better" right now, at age 37, than RBs on NFL rosters is a bit silly. Could he suit up, carry the ball a few times, and catch a few passes? Sure, but not at the expense of younger players with more potential. When someone starts clamoring for Fred to be on the Bills' wall of fame, my eyes will really start rolling. He led the NFL in all purpose yards before.. don’t let just rushing yards make your opinion of him he was one of the best if not best blocking back among his peers... he was a kick returner / punt returner for us at 1 point a slot receiver and a 3 down back He was the star of the offense and the league knows how good Fred was Edited July 9, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He was the star of the offense and the league knows how good Fred was "Yeah, when we played those bad-to-average Bills teams we knew #22 would play hard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 First who cares who is better. Williams and Fred were both very good football players. No reason to be bickering about that. And as much as i love Fred there us a reason he is out of the league...this is flag football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I must say watching these flag football games are entertaining. Maybe the NFL should take note. Not necessarily no contact, but more space. One thing I thought about was eliminating the number of players on the field or making the field larger. More space would mean less collisions, less collisions means less head injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: I must say watching these flag football games are entertaining. Maybe the NFL should take note. Not necessarily no contact, but more space. One thing I thought about was eliminating the number of players on the field or making the field larger. More space would mean less collisions, less collisions means less head injuries. Both those ideas would drastically change the game. And no matter what you do youll always have head injuries. And even with more space players are still going to hit each and collisions will always be there. For me we either have football or we eventually turned it into a game that was once football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, MJS said: Not really. Kyle Williams is easily better. As far as fan favorites i'd say they would be 1 & 2 you can't beat either one for being a class member of the Bills for sure !! Got a Freddy J jersey want to get a Williams jersey this year & I'll be a happy tail gator !! Edited July 10, 2018 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said: Arguably the greatest Bill since the superbowl years. Meh, he was no Moorman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, T master said: As far as fan favorites i'd say they would be 1 & 2 you can't beat either one for being a class member of the Bills for sure !! Got a Freddy J jersey want to get a Williams jersey this year & I'll be a happy tail gator !! As far as fan favorites go, absolutely. 7 hours ago, eball said: Man, I appreciated Fred's effort as a Buffalo Bill as much as anyone but people sure do like worshiping "decent" players on bad teams. Aside from 2011, when Fred was off to an awesome start until he got hurt, he had "nice" statistics but nothing that jumps out at you. Really hard worker, great guy, and some memorable moments as a Bill, but certainly never an "elite" RB in the NFL. He overcame pretty ridiculous odds to fashion a 9-year NFL career and should be commended for that. He doesn't belong in the NFL in 2018 and to suggest he's "better" right now, at age 37, than RBs on NFL rosters is a bit silly. Could he suit up, carry the ball a few times, and catch a few passes? Sure, but not at the expense of younger players with more potential. When someone starts clamoring for Fred to be on the Bills' wall of fame, my eyes will really start rolling. Absolutely. Fred Jackson's stats were pretty average. But he was an awesome guy and sometimes the only thing to watch on Sunday because the rest of the team was so bad. But he was an average starter. Never elite. Kyle Williams has probably never been elite either, but he has been really good. Definitely above average. He went to so many pro bowls for a reason. Brian Moorman, on the other hand, was an elite punter. I think he deserves the wall of fame before Fred. I'd also put Kyle Williams on the wall of fame. Edited July 10, 2018 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) On 7/9/2018 at 2:49 PM, row_33 said: Eric Moulds i mean god bless Fred, but you are seriously putting this guy up as your best ever? Yes definitely, based upon his body of work, his road to the pros, to how he carried himself as a pro. I don't care who tossed up better numbers really. I'd say it's between him and Kyle Williams as the two players who stood out the most. Edited July 11, 2018 by Homey D. Clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Fred's awesome... -Always felt like something exciting could happen when he was on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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