Punching Bag Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 22 hours ago, purple haze said: After the fact, that Super Bowl was considered one of the worst in the modern era due to that housing situation. I don't think the league will be looking for a replay of that. yes but some keep saying an advantage to new stadium is a Superbowl. 22 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Keep the Ralph. Finally a coach realizing how great that home field can be ... It's a special place Too bad Russ when he was in charge could not say such things as "there is no need for a new stadium in our market. Those who are advocating such a stadium would be first to advocate Bills leaving WNY". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) On 5/23/2018 at 4:55 PM, nucci said: But Terry said he'll drill another well if they need more money That's true. And this is the first time this owner said "enough" when it comes to spending. Grant you it's a fortune we're talking about here. Edited May 25, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, beerme1 said: If bananas are yellow why is my Wegmans stand loaded with green bananas? Just sayin. ? “Young people” shop there? That wouldn’t go over as well in Florida. Too much risk... 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: That's true. And this is the first time this other said "enough" when it comes to spending. Grant you it's a fortune we're talking about here. Technically, didn’t someone say he couldn’t make a profit if he paid $1.4B, and he responded “if I was trying to make money I’d drill another well”...or something like that. I don’t think he promised endless resources from continued oil and gas work. Big distinction there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 16 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: That's just a Bay Area thing - those people LOVE waiting mind-numbingly in line for garlic fries for hours, missing half the game in the meantime. And they don't even stand or yell during critical moments of the game. Some on this board want more of this type of fan with a new stadium. 16 hours ago, Mat68 said: Primetime games. Overall, team wealth and value. No differant than college. As a proffessional athlete you want to be at the top. Some colleges have better facilities than Buffalo. Go convince those rich school donors to fund Bills stadium and some spell checking software for posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 21 hours ago, mattynh said: Did you have some expectation that building a stadium correlates with winning? Not so much the stadium but the training complex. I'm mostly enjoying the fact that despite all Jerry's money the cowboys still suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Augie said: “Young people” shop there? That wouldn’t go over as well in Florida. Too much risk... Technically, didn’t someone say he couldn’t make a profit if he paid $1.4B, and he responded “if I was trying to make money I’d drill another well”...or something like that. I don’t think he promised endless resources from continued oil and gas work. Big distinction there. I just meant that the Pegulas have never before said something cost too much. Think of all the bad contracts they pay for players and coaches that were let go? It got me feeling like they were made of money and paying for a new stadium was no biggie. Obviously there are limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I just meant that the Pegulas have never before said something cost too much. Think of all the bad contracts they pay for players and coaches that were let go? It got me feeling like they were made of money and paying for a new stadium was no biggie. Obviously there are limits. Oh, I get that for sure. Apparently there is a point where the number of digits and commas gets even your every day multi-billionaire to the pucker point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 All that matters the most to me is that the Bills stay here. Keep renovating , build more restrooms. Poll season ticket holders if they would pay much higher prices in a new stadium, even if it were a open air at present location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 11 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Erie County Executive Mark Poloncarz responded to Pegula’s comments on Thursday. “I’ve been saying this for years,” Poloncarz wrote on Twitter. “Recently built stadiums are approaching $2 billion. That is a ridiculous amount of money to spend for just a stadium if you think about all the other needs a community has to address. I’m glad Kim Pegula said publicly what all with the team knew.” There's the government's bluff call... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I’m curious. Rich Stadium’s construction cost was $20 million back in 1972/1973. If you factor in inflation what would that equate to fifty years later? I’ll bet it’s more than you’d think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 19 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Lambeau went through an almost 300 million Reno. Has New Era come close to that? No. But you can keep button mashing hoping to enact M. Bison’s Devils reverse if you want. Ill be over here with a full power bar. I'm glad you brought up Street Fighter because it reminds me of how easy I could beat you with Vega. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I was wrong. It’s way LESS than I thought. According to a calculator I googled $20m in 1973 equates to $120m today. So...the figures they’re kicking around for a new stadium would’ve been something like $200 million in ‘73. There’s no way!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 22 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...nice job bud....there it is in a nutshell.....if my calculations are correct, interest payments are $30 mil/yr, an expense that affects the income statement.....the principal portion or debt service must be factored into cash flow (around $12 mil).....relying on your ticket price increase calculations, how or if does Buffalo/WNY support those numbers?.... It is actually worse. My calculations assumed the Bills got 100%of the ticket increase. They need to share the revenue so it is 40% more per ticket if the revenue share is 60/40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I have not read every comment here but do remember that the last deal had a bribe for the government employees-a suite set aside for the state employees. I think Pegula is simply starting negotiations for the stadium with the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 8:11 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Erie County Executive Mark Poloncarz responded to Pegula’s comments on Thursday. “I’ve been saying this for years,” Poloncarz wrote on Twitter. “Recently built stadiums are approaching $2 billion. That is a ridiculous amount of money to spend for just a stadium if you think about all the other needs a community has to address. I’m glad Kim Pegula said publicly what all with the team knew.” The Bills have a lease at New Era Stadium through the 2022 season and can opt out after the 2020 season, although the team has said they do not plan to exercise that option. There is an $18 million renovation project in the works, but the question of what path the team takes beyond this lease will remain a question in the coming years. I'm sure we could build a new open air stadium for much less than 2 billion. Heinz field in Pittsburgh was around 280 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Interesting in today's BN Kim is stated as starting a review now of replacing the hockey arena. WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) On 5/24/2018 at 9:10 PM, beerme1 said: If bananas are yellow why is my Wegmans stand loaded with green bananas? Just sayin. ? 101 now! Edited May 27, 2018 by ColoradoBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judman Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Heinz field opened in 2001 at a cost of $288M in 2017 dollars (per Wikipedia). I’ve been there. Nice enough stadium at a reasonable price. If the team wants new digs, it can be done reasonably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I know I'm late to the party here, and I don't know if this has already been said because I didn't read all 15 pages, but you know what would help with a new stadium if that is the route we are looking to go? Winning. Build a contender. Build a team that is continually in the playoffs and has a legit shot at the SB(by the grace of God winning one). We suddenly become more profitable in numerous ways not only to the area, but to the state and the NFL. Funding for a new stadium would be easier to come by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, H2o said: I know I'm late to the party here, and I don't know if this has already been said because I didn't read all 15 pages, but you know what would help with a new stadium if that is the route we are looking to go? Winning. Build a contender. Build a team that is continually in the playoffs and has a legit shot at the SB(by the grace of God winning one). We suddenly become more profitable in numerous ways not only to the area, but to the state and the NFL. Funding for a new stadium would be easier to come by then. It was mentioned early in thread yes but posters reminded us that even the playoff games did not sell out when Bills were at height of Superbowl years. The stadium was a bit larger but expect same thing would happen including late games not sold out late in season like NFL imposed on Bills (not a coincidence I think) this year. Bills should try to find some "events" making stadium less available in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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