Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, 1st&ten said: I'm old so there's tons of them--- Trading Daryl Lamonica to the Raiders Not building the stadium in Lancaster Cutting Fred Jackson Hiring Rex Ryan I could list about 50 more. Why Lancaster? Edited May 14, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Firing Bill Polian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 9 hours ago, THE SLAMMER said: Right now its the entire Richie Incognito situation This can be worked out. placing all the blame on Richie is a big mistake. Like I always say, if the situation makes no sense there is always more to the story. The Bills are not completely blameless I couldn't disagree more. You agree to a contract by signing, reading, and understanding it. The Bills are running a business not a charity. He didn't go over the details and he got burned. He could have easily pursued other opportunities if he didn't like the number. He lied about injuries, had a Twitter meltdown, then admitted it was about the money. I'm not sure if you noticed, but he's been completely silent all social media since his fiasco. Someone seems to have gotten through to him to stop talking for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Epstein's Mother said: Not sure I understand this one. Maybe you meant starting Johnson over Flutie in general but in this instance when Rob Johnson walked off the field for the last time that day he was ahead. if RJ hadn't fumbled the football out of the back of the EZ for a safety, that forward lateral "TD," would still not given them enough points to win. After the resulting free kick giving them excellent field position and motivation, they scored their only TD of the game. Flutie starts that game we win going away. The other one I didn't like was dumping Fred when we did. Edited May 14, 2018 by reddogblitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Utah John said: Here's another: Letting Jim Kelly take a call from the USFL in the Bills office, when he was ready to sign as a rookie. He ended up spending a couple of years in the USFL instead of with the Bills. I mean, hard to blame the Bills for that. The man left on his own accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elite Poster said: I couldn't disagree more. You agree to a contract by signing, reading, and understanding it. The Bills are running a business not a charity. He didn't go over the details and he got burned. He could have easily pursued other opportunities if he didn't like the number. He lied about injuries, had a Twitter meltdown, then admitted it was about the money. I'm not sure if you noticed, but he's been completely silent all social media since his fiasco. Someone seems to have gotten through to him to stop talking for once. A good business doesn't take a 3 year in a row pro bowler and ask for a pay cut now do they?. How do you know he lied about his injuries? You do realize that agents have the power to ok a deal without having the player present, right? The players don't hop a jet for buffalo, this is why you hire an agent...most likely the reason for firing Completed deals are electronically sent for approval sometimes without the player completely understanding the terms....it happens Geeez, glad I don't work for you....90 % of this is hear say your honor....lol Edited May 14, 2018 by THE SLAMMER change wording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Those are my Top 2. I started following football about 1971 or so. Lamonica's Raiders were always good and exciting to watch. I remember being astounded when my dad told me that he used to be on the Bills. I couldn't figure out how that could have possibly happened. You know what? I still can't. According to rumors at the time there were ' Mitigating " circumstances in the trade of Lamonica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Elite Poster said: I mean, hard to blame the Bills for that. The man left on his own accord. Spending those two years in the USFL was the best thing that could have happened for Kelly’s development. He came to us knowing how to read defenses and I doubt he would have learned as much under Kay Stephenson and Co. vs. what he learned with Mouse Davis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Ralonzo said: A guy who wasn't well thought of that got traded up for in the first round: John McCantgo. FIFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, THE SLAMMER said: A good business doesn't take a 3 year in a row pro bowler and ask for a pay cut now do they?. How do you know he lied about his injuries? You do realize that agents have the power to ok a deal without having the player present, right? The players don't hop a jet for buffalo, this is why you hire an agent...most likely the reason for firing Completed deals are electronically sent for approval sometimes without the player completely understanding the terms....it happens Geeez, glad I don't work for you....90 % of this is hear say your honor....lol I hear all the time players say football is a Man's game, for "Grown-Ass Men" If a "Grown-Ass Man" reads and signs something he doesn't understand, what difference does it make if transmitted electronically, by Fed-Ex Next Day, or by carrier pigeon? It's still on an adult not to sign something he doesn't understand. Call your agent. Call your lawyer. Call your massage therapist who's moonlighting while working her way through law school. I made that last up, but the rest is "Grown-up 101": don't read and sign something you don't understand. If you need help to understand a contract, get help. For some folks that's problematic as they don't have the money, but Richie doesn't have that limitation. Maybe drop a word out of the "Grown-ass man" phrase. And yes, an agent can agree to a deal, but they can't sign it for the player (unless player gave them a Power of Attorney I guess- see above about Grown-up 101) I don't know whether or not Richie lied about his medical exam: needing to retire because kidneys and liver shutting down. If I'm in the business of staffing a football team, neither option raises his value to the GM. Either he lied about it, in which case he's not honest, or he didn't lie about it, in which case I'm uninspired to pay more bucks for a sick puppy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 60's Making OJ a decoy his first two years. Thanks, John Rauch. 70's - early 80's Not retaining Chuck Knox Early 80's version of Rex Ryan was Hank Bullough 1987-1995 - Letting Polian Go...Ralph, Littman and Linda couldn't take the honesty Letting John Butler and then Wade Phillips go 2000's becoming an NFL farm team with the talent we did obtain - Winfield, Williams, Clements, Poz and then drafting horribly and signing crap like Langston Walker, Chris Williams (who was damaged when we signed him). Focusing on marketing with moves like TO instead of the on the field product I agree with the posts about not shoring up the Bills weakest area ever. The Bills really needed to try not to make the playoffs for 17 years... Edited May 14, 2018 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Wily Dog said: According to rumors at the time there were ' Mitigating " circumstances in the trade of Lamonica I'll bite..........who was he bangin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) The obvious answer for me is choosing RJ over Flutie. I firmly believe we beat the Titans with Flutie under center. RJ was terrible, going 10-22 with 131 yards passing and 1 crucial turnover. Edited May 14, 2018 by Hsker4life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Wily Dog said: According to rumors at the time there were ' Mitigating " circumstances in the trade of Lamonica Say more, you Wily Dog you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Trading up for T.J. Graham. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 This is the first thought that popped into my head and it was an in game decision. It was a 2002 home game against the Pats when we started 5-3. We were down 10 points in the 3rd and had a 4th and 2 on the New England 32. We punt in a game that was supposed to be a shootout. New England ends up blowing us out. It's probably not close to the most infuriating decision, but I find it the perfect microcosm of the Bills during the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Getting rid of BBMB without ensuring first that members got psychiatric care. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Trading multiple high picks for the fifth best WR in the draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 15 hours ago, THE SLAMMER said: Right now its the entire Richie Incognito situation This can be worked out. placing all the blame on Richie is a big mistake. Like I always say, if the situation makes no sense there is always more to the story. The Bills are not completely blameless Is this Ritchie's stealth account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1. Marv letting Kelly keep throwing the ball in the best chance to win a SB in franchise history 2. Not paying Jason Peters 3. Hiring Marv as GM 4. Hiring Dave Wannstedt as DC 5. Allowing Rex to dismantle the Jim Schwartz defense. I had no issue with Rex as a HC hire. I thought wrongly that he would retain Schwartz and just add a few blitz/coverage wrinkles to what Schwartz was doing. If Rex had simply played the role of HC, both he and Whaley would be here now with multiple playoff seasons. 9 hours ago, BurpleBull said: I honestly was still in shock that they would trade Alonso after he showed so much promise as a rookie even with McCoy being the player they swapped for. Then you only watched the first 8 games he played and not the second 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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