Buffalo716 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I hoped we were done with it and "Dysfunction Junction" was in the past, personally Hey hapless. You really had me thinking hard with your Allen question lol If I wrote my grades on draft night I would have given it a D lol I didn’t like it But it’s growing everyday but you definitely had me do more soul searching when you asked me what changed. to see why they did love him and I can honestly see why Edited May 3, 2018 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 ^^^Reasonable take. I'll miss Brandon's business, personally. Had some amazing experiences serving major Bills celebrations over the last six years; McD and B are much less public about their affairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said: ^^^Reasonable take. I'll miss Brandon's business, personally. Had some amazing experiences serving major Bills celebrations over the last six years; McD and B are much less public about their affairs... The dude just knew how to party. A real mans man. I'd throw back a few at the local pub. No wonder why Shady liked Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 It would seem to me that McDermott may have disliked Brandon's penchant for leaking. That may be at the root of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Brandon's wife was never/rarely in attendance for team dinners (although he did usually pack up food to-go for her). McDermott treats public ocassions like dinners differently. His wife is with him whenever appropriate. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 14 hours ago, mattynh said: Did Brandon make comments about how McDermott wiggles into his jeans? Problem was Russ didn't like all the clapping. He told McD he needed to wear mittens! Things went downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 So McD knew Brandon was a rat before he even entered the building. Who warned him? Marrone? Did the Pegulas already sour on Brandon and warn him themselves? Or my pick Bill Polian. I didn’t and still don’t think the Pegulas got this hire right on their own. I believe McD was recommended by Polian and that would explain why the owners would cater to McD’s wishes and keep Brandon away from him. It would also explain how he knew about Brandon before ever coming to Buffalo. Just my two cents. Go Celtics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Commonsense said: So McD knew Brandon was a rat before he even entered the building. Who warned him? Marrone? Did the Pegulas already sour on Brandon and warn him themselves? Or my pick Bill Polian. I didn’t and still don’t think the Pegulas got this hire right on their own. I believe McD was recommended by Polian and that would explain why the owners would cater to McD’s wishes and keep Brandon away from him. It would also explain how he knew about Brandon before ever coming to Buffalo. Just my two cents. Go Celtics It may have been McD’s agent who not only warned him, but requested he and Whaley not be there and told McD not to consider the job if he was going to have to work with Whaley. Agents know everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: It may have been McD’s agent who not only warned him, but requested he and Whaley not be there and told McD not to consider the job if he was going to have to work with Whaley. Agents know everything. Was McD a strong HC candidate that the Pegulas basically allowed him to dictate his terms whilst calling their own FO toxic? When I was thinking about it I came to the conclusion that scenario plays out best when you have someone playing both sides, someone facilitating the hire. The agent is definelty a possibility, If he was able to flex and get it done then good on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, Commonsense said: So McD knew Brandon was a rat before he even entered the building. Who warned him? Marrone? Did the Pegulas already sour on Brandon and warn him themselves? Or my pick Bill Polian. I didn’t and still don’t think the Pegulas got this hire right on their own. I believe McD was recommended by Polian and that would explain why the owners would cater to McD’s wishes and keep Brandon away from him. It would also explain how he knew about Brandon before ever coming to Buffalo. Just my two cents. Go Celtics Polian and the league's search committee, which is often overlooked. But they've had several success stories over the years; Tomlin being chief among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 8 hours ago, 100DollarBills said: You can't go around hating others for different morals. Nobody like a self righteous chode either. WTF? Sure you can. it's called standing up for your beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Was McD a strong HC candidate that the Pegulas basically allowed him to dictate his terms whilst calling their own FO toxic? When I was thinking about it I came to the conclusion that scenario plays out best when you have someone playing both sides, someone facilitating the hire. The agent is definelty a possibility, If he was able to flex and get it done then good on him. I think he was strong ... he has opportunities to interview with both LAC and SF at the time. There may have been others too but I’m just going off of memory. I think he ended up cancelling the LAC interview when he got the Bills job, but he was interviewing in SF when our offer came in, in fact he flew on Air Pegula from SF to OP to sign the contract. But it’s more about the fact he he had options - he could have just stayed at carolina. Asst coaches who are employed in good situations don’t need to take every HC interview they are contacted about, it has to be a good situation. I know a few guys who refused to interview in Cleveland for years until joe banner was gone. He had a horrible reputation and no gm wanted to work for him. Same thing when the Rams were in STL and guys wouldn’t work with Fisher. Edited May 3, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 43 minutes ago, Commonsense said: So McD knew Brandon was a rat before he even entered the building. Who warned him? Marrone? Did the Pegulas already sour on Brandon and warn him themselves? Or my pick Bill Polian. I didn’t and still don’t think the Pegulas got this hire right on their own. I believe McD was recommended by Polian and that would explain why the owners would cater to McD’s wishes and keep Brandon away from him. It would also explain how he knew about Brandon before ever coming to Buffalo. Just my two cents. Go Celtics I'm sure the Bills had a pretty strong reputation for how they did things on the football side. That's why we get Jauron and Gailey and GMs like Nix and Whaley (and Marv and Russ). I feel like Rex thought his bravado could mouth his way to success with any team and liked the $ offered. But we also had Mularkey and Marrone put their careers on the line and walk out. And up-and-comer isn't going to put his legacy and career in the shared hands with Russ Brandon. Any strong coaching candidate they coveted would probably demand that sort of autonomy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 15 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: You are overreacting and it's weird. Paul can say he heard there was an incident, he is correct in not detailing that incident if he doesn't have access to 3 sources who can verify it. NO obvioulsy I was not. Hamilton is nothign more than a gossiper. All of that crap coming form Paul was just gossip, and I have no place for that crap. I do not except it in any form. A rumor is one thing but to just go on the air and start spout gossip is sad I guess lots of you just love gossip. It really irritates me which is one of the reason I do not participate in most social media. To much non sense being spread around and most peole are not capable of handling it properly. I'm out.. gossip away.... I'll wait for factual info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 10 hours ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: I would listen to what he said; it implies something different. Be happy to do that, got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 15 hours ago, ddaryl said: YES THERE IS !!!! He has no proof but he makes a very generic statement that is now nothing but click bait. He says he can't prove it. SO its nothign more than hear say Your opinion is nutty considering how much of this crap goes on every single day in modern journalism. Personal opinion and hearsay is not news and if you can't back it up with proof or have no source for the facts then do not say it. Unbelievable what people hang their hats on these days. pathetic If the truth comes out great but without facts or a source willing to go on record, Paul is just another douche dude, its not "click bait" because it was said on air, in an interview about the sabres...he said it rather casually as in "this guys was so awful, McDermott wouldn't even be in the same room with him", and then said "I wont get into a specific instance they had because I cannot confirm it". So he is confirming McDermott really disliked Brandon but wouldn't confirm an occurrence between the two because he was not sure. That is good journalism. What is difficult to comprehend here? There are two separate statements, one in which he confirmed, and has now been confirmed by other sources (McD really disliked Brandon) and one he would not confirm (a specific occurrence between the two). click bait, lol 12 minutes ago, ddaryl said: NO obvioulsy I was not. Hamilton is nothign more than a gossiper. All of that crap coming form Paul was just gossip, and I have no place for that crap. I do not except it in any form. A rumor is one thing but to just go on the air and start spout gossip is sad I guess lots of you just love gossip. It really irritates me which is one of the reason I do not participate in most social media. To much non sense being spread around and most peole are not capable of handling it properly. I'm out.. gossip away.... I'll wait for factual info darryl is Russ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 9 hours ago, 100DollarBills said: Rumor has it, Brandon was giving everyone the clap. McDermitt said that's my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: dude, its not "click bait" because it was said on air, in an interview about the sabres...he said it rather casually as in "this guys was so awful, McDermott wouldn't even be in the same room with him", and then said "I wont get into a specific instance they had because I cannot confirm it". So he is confirming McDermott really disliked Brandon but wouldn't confirm an occurrence between the two because he was not sure. That is good journalism. What is difficult to comprehend here? There are two separate statements, one in which he confirmed, and has now been confirmed by other sources (McD really disliked Brandon) and one he would not confirm (a specific occurrence between the two). click bait, lol darryl is Russ? You got me.. Anyone lookng for a front office guy. I got references It was click bait in the sense most people tran over to WGR to click the link to stream this stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I don't have a link but the Marrone story I heard was that he planned to get the Pegulas to bring in Polian, who would have fired Whaley immediately and worked to get Russ out the door ASAP as well. It was a power play. When it failed Marrone had no choice but to quit. How could he come back after trying to get bosses 2 levels up from him fired? Take it for what it's worth as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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