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RD 6, 187 Ray-Ray McCloud - WR Clemson


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The people calling a 4.5 guy "slow" are cracking me up.  First, a laser-timed 4.5 is absolutely cooking.  A guy running a 4.5 vs a guy in the mid-4.4's is not much different in gamespeed, yet fans (and too many GM's) lose their minds and clamor for the 4.45 guy over a 4.5 guy.  Second, Ray Ray has been timed significantly lower than the 4.53 everyone is throwing around.  Reportedly a sub-4.4 at some point.  Third, if you have ever bothered to watch much Clemson football you would know he's an absolute playmaker and is one of those guys who just plays fast and with quick-twitch.

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2 hours ago, Mopreme said:

Green Bay did, they drafted EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN and MARQUEZ VALDES-SCANTLING.  

St Brown has a drug issue

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m higher on Ray-Ray than most of you. He was the playmaker for Clemson. He returns punts and makes plays. I said it in another thread but he reminds me of the h-backs in Urban Meyer’s offense. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he helped this team.

Yeah you can’t judge these guys from elite programs on their production. If they are are playing at Clemson, they are worth a look. Cream of the crop talent, there is so much that it’s tough to get the ball to everyone. 

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St. Brown, Harold Landry both showed inconsistent effort at times during their college careers. It was widely noted on scouting reports and both players dropped quite a bit in the draft. Beane and McD won’t be drafting a single player with those words attached, just my guess. 

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1 hour ago, Commonsense said:

St. Brown, Harold Landry both showed inconsistent effort at times during their college careers. It was widely noted on scouting reports and both players dropped quite a bit in the draft. Beane and McD won’t be drafting a single player with those words attached, just my guess. 

In the 6th round, that’s exactly where you draft those guys.  We drafted a project qb 7th overall who’s best strength is his arm.  Why not get a project wr who is as physically talented as any wr in the draft to grow with?  The two wrs we got are pretty much finished projects.

 

if there was a way, I’d put a lot down on ESJ having a better nfl career than Ray Ray and Ricky’s son.

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I have no problems with the pick. If he sticks it's because he's a natural playmaker who will give our return game a much needed boost and possibly also develop into a versatile backup contributor at WR and a guy who can occasionally be plugged into sets/special packages designed to get him in space. I like the Proehl pick too. 

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I mentioned in the other thread but this dude was a running back in high school and I could see him being a Dion Lewis type of back who can catch balls out of the backfield, run the ball a bit, and play in the slot. If Daboll takes a Pats approach to our offense, a player like this makes a ton of sense. I think McCloud, Proehl, Foster all make this team. 

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1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

In the 6th round, that’s exactly where you draft those guys.  We drafted a project qb 7th overall who’s best strength is his arm.  Why not get a project wr who is as physically talented as any wr in the draft to grow with?  The two wrs we got are pretty much finished projects.

 

if there was a way, I’d put a lot down on ESJ having a better nfl career than Ray Ray and Ricky’s son.

Maybe you misread what I wrote, I’m not sure that your response addressed the actual point. Lazy is a deal breaker for these guys. 

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2 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

What if he is looked at as a RB in the system ,????

 

Maybe the (very) occasional misdirection to get him in space and where he lines up as a slot receiver or off the line but given his size/weight I have trouble seeing him in a pro backfield,

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