CajunBillsBacker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Does it really matter if it’s a secret who they are taking at 1? Unless it’s not a QB, I can’t imagine a scenario where it would hurt them if they come out and said they have begun contract talks with a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Given the Browns sordid QB history I would be shocked if they take Allen given that his value is significantly based on projecting future performance. They need more of a sure thing, a higher floor Allen is the guy I would love the Bills to get, and at 12 would be perfect. I have not dared to dream Darnold, but if Browns take Allen or Mayfield - get 2 done for Darnold! But I strongly suspect this is smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 If that happenes forget the Giants as a trade up partner. They will be all over Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iverwig Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 No way Mayfield is going#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: If that happenes forget the Giants as a trade up partner. They will be all over Darnold. Sadly I suspect that you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’m not fully disagreeing but do you know Allen has never been better than a 50% passer, even in high school. Here are stats from community college. http://www.cccaasports.org/sports/fball/2014-15/players/joshuaallen0oal obviously, nothing is set in stone. But man, it’s crazy that a guy who has never been accurate, the one stat that somewhat means something in evaluating successful qbs going from college to the pros, is being talked about going so high. i think Jackson has to go to the right team but he was one of the best college players I have ever seen and he did in a big time conference. So I give the slight edge to Jackson but I hope they both turn out to be good pros. We need more good qbs. Jackson running with the football? Absolutely amazing and fun to watch. Jackson throwing the football? Reminds me a lot of Tyrod with waiting for guys to be completely open in many instances. Those windows get tighter in the NFL. He also gets less accurate the further the ball travels down the field. I'm not big on Allen either for his inconsistencies and tendency to try to do too much. I don't really want either guy, but if I had to choose then Allen is the guy I roll with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I'm actually starting to think that Dorsey is purposely doing this to give the Giants as little time as possible to trade out of 2. This way pick #4 becomes the premium pick to get up for a QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, GG said: If it's not Darnold, it will suck for Bills. It has to be Darnold or Allen. If they pick one of those two we'll have one of the top 3. If not all bets are off with what the Giants will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 hours ago, JM57 said: Got that strange mustache and mullet combination going on too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I'm not happy with Allen but getting Jackson makes me angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 33 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It has to be Darnold or Allen. If they pick one of those two we'll have one of the top 3. If not all bets are off with what the Giants will do. I'm basing my opinion on the prevailing view that Giants will only take Darnold at QB. So if Browns pick anyone but Darnold, then 3QBs are off the board immediately and Bills' options are more limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, GG said: I'm basing my opinion on the prevailing view that Giants will only take Darnold at QB. So if Browns pick anyone but Darnold, then 3QBs are off the board immediately and Bills' options are more limited If the Browns take Allen we'll still be in good shape. Even if the Giants take Darnold and the Jets take Mayfield, that leaves open a trade up to 4 or 5 for Rosen. No one could possibly outbid us. Worst case scenario is Browns taking Mayfield. In that scenario it's very possible the first 3 picks are Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen and there's nothing we could do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: uh, why...... its the first pick of the draft. there's no screen necessary is there? Sure, because they also have pick #4. Why give anyone extra time to prepare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Sure, because they also have pick #4. Why give anyone extra time to prepare? they've been vocal about taking qb at 1. at that point that has nothing to do with the 4 pick. that makes no sense. teams know they are taking a qb. the real monkey wrench in all this is being held by the giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffaloboyinATL Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: they've been vocal about taking qb at 1. at that point that has nothing to do with the 4 pick. that makes no sense. teams know they are taking a qb. the real monkey wrench in all this is being held by the giants. It makes total sense. No one knows WHICH QB they are taking. You think which one they take has nothing to do with what happens the next 2 picks?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said: It makes total sense. No one knows WHICH QB they are taking. You think which one they take has nothing to do with what happens the next 2 picks?! jets are taking a qb. that has no bearing on the browns pick at 4. so this comes down to if you think the giants would take darnold at 2 or one of the elite non qb's..... and if the browns are basing their decision on taking darnold off of that and maybe getting their pick of the litter at non-qb positions at 4 that's just silly. there's really no need for all this mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm actually starting to think that Dorsey is purposely doing this to give the Giants as little time as possible to trade out of 2. This way pick #4 becomes the premium pick to get up for a QB. I agree that Dorsey is probably being extra coy to try to maxmize the player or return they get at #4. But there isn't really ANY incentive to announce the pick or sign him early like in the old days. Back when "sign-ability" was a thing teams could leverage that top position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Allen. Dorksey loves prototypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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