TC in St. Louis Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Because of what DeShaun Watson did last year....in my opinion everybody is pretending that they aren't going to draft Lamar Jackson. The guy is a stud. Lightning fast, big arm, a defensive coordinator's nightmare. Nobody's talking about him, but I'm thinking he's going early. I don't know about top 5, that seems dumb. But Houston found a STAR in Watson, and Lamar is a faster, more explosive player. According to the internet, Watson ran a 4.66, and Jackson a 4.34. Tyrod was a scary asset as a Bill. His main problem was his tendency to panic in the pocket and not be able to find receivers. But his talent made him a tradable asset and Cleveland's number one guy right now. If the Bills continue to participate in this misdirection, and he's there at 12 say Hello Lamar. Welcome to the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Don’t see this as a “ process “ move ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I hope so, but I don't have much faith that the Bills want him in all honesty. I'd love to find out that all of the attention they've given other QBs was just a smokescreen, but it seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 he will be good, if you want that kind of QB. what scrambling QB has ever been successful for long though? let's say he is Mike Vick. ok, was Vick really that great? maybe you can have a couple of good seasons but injuries and failure to develop as a pocket passer and these types of QB's are out of the league quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I love him but I don’t think the Bills do. I don’t see it as any kind of smokescreen either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I've got no issue with Drafting Lamar at 12 because he is a MUCH better pocket passer than some fans give him credit for. I've said it for over a month now, but the video on him is good about being in the pocket and his accuracy completion % is at 59.1%, just .09% shy of the benchmark 60% most say is needed to be considered a truly viable QB prospect going into the NFL. When you add in the fact that out of the top 6 his receivers had the highest drop rate and as you mentioned his talent and running a Pro Style Offense, there's true promise there. He does need to work on his footwork to avoid the errant throws, but considering all of these QBs have some issues that need to be developed or refined, Lamar Jackson is a tremendous prospect and could be the centerpiece in an NFL Offense with the right coaching staff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: Because of what DeShaun Watson did last year....in my opinion everybody is pretending that they aren't going to draft Lamar Jackson. The guy is a stud. Lightning fast, big arm, a defensive coordinator's nightmare. Nobody's talking about him, but I'm thinking he's going early. I don't know about top 5, that seems dumb. But Houston found a STAR in Watson, and Lamar is a faster, more explosive player. According to the internet, Watson ran a 4.66, and Jackson a 4.34. Tyrod was a scary asset as a Bill. His main problem was his tendency to panic in the pocket and not be able to find receivers. But his talent made him a tradable asset and Cleveland's number one guy right now. If the Bills continue to participate in this misdirection, and he's there at 12 say Hello Lamar. Welcome to the Bills. Funny but DeShaun had the same issue as Vick seemed to have in the NFL which is both are fragile and ended up getting hurt. Same thing with RG III. Sorry but the NFL has been a QB passing league since the 70s and likely remain that way until further notice. Give me a trade up for Rosen, Darnold or wait for pick 22 for Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 My information is indicating that he will plummet. People won't know why. But he will drop , drop drop, to the bottom of the first or maybe even into the 2nd. Im not insisting he will but that is my best guess at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I think many people are overestimating the couple of good games that Watson had last year. We seem to gripe about accuracy and turnovers on here quite a bit and Watson was inaccurate and a turnover machine in college. If he can continue to be successful when D-Coordinators game plan for him (they didn't last year) then he has a chance to be special. Seeing him on all these lists of the top players in the league on television and people talking about him like he is a superstar seems a bit premature imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I was listening to Sirius NFL Radio the other day and they were talking about how, if you draft Jackson, you need to build an entire offense around him. Then it hit me: the Bills are in the PEFECT spot to do that. There are almost no established offensive pieces and we have a brand new OC. The Bills will be building an offense from the ground up pretty much no matter what. They could easily build one around Jackson if they so choose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hopefully the Jets or the Broncos are sand bagging on him... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Watson was pretty amazing... The first time he played was a bit of a clunker, then he put up 19 TD and almost 2,000 yards in 6 games. That is pretty damn good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Deshuan may not be as fast as Lamar but he functions much better in the pocket 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 If the intention was to draft Jackson then who would be better to bring him along than Tyrod? Maybe the Browns want Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 36 minutes ago, kdiggz said: he will be good, if you want that kind of QB. what scrambling QB has ever been successful for long though? let's say he is Mike Vick. ok, was Vick really that great? maybe you can have a couple of good seasons but injuries and failure to develop as a pocket passer and these types of QB's are out of the league quick Fran Tarkenton, Roger Staubach, just to name two HOF QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 It's a lazy comparison. Deshaun had a much better college career as it pertains to potentially transitioning into the NFL, imo. He "Quarterbacked" his team to two National Championship appearances, and one National Championship victory. Something Jackson didnt get close to doing (and disappointingly neither did Mayfield). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I think many people are overestimating the couple of good games that Watson had last year. We seem to gripe about accuracy and turnovers on here quite a bit and Watson was inaccurate and a turnover machine in college. If he can continue to be successful when D-Coordinators game plan for him (they didn't last year) then he has a chance to be special. Seeing him on all these lists of the top players in the league on television and people talking about him like he is a superstar seems a bit premature imo. Huh...what....the Texans Offense EXPLODED with Watson... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, chris heff said: Fran Tarkenton, Roger Staubach, just to name two HOF QBs. Those were good scramblers. They werent running with the speed and power these new guys have. The problem is, that speed and power means harder collisions and more injuries. Even just going to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, chris heff said: Fran Tarkenton, Roger Staubach, just to name two HOF QBs. from before I was born lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) For Lamar to max out in terms of his very high ceiling, he needs to develop as a pocket passer and not be limited to a customized RPO. I don't know if he can get there but there is ample evidence to suggest that he is capable of improving on both the physical (purely mechanical in his case) as well as the mental requirements. So while nothing is guaranteed to me he is a really great prospect. Imagine if Tyrod was really good at throwing the football. Think QB would still be at top of our shopping list? Say "no". I see where some posters question the ability of young QBs to get better by improving their mechanics. That of course is total nonsense - "muscle memory" etc...lol. If that were the case you would have to discard some of this year's best prospects (excluding only Rosen and maybe Mayfield). You would also have to dump the great Aaron Rodgers because when his mechanics deteriorate his performance goes south - like that stretch of four or five games a couple years back that just about gutted the Packers season until he went back to work with his QB coach. I'm pretty sure Lamar is not the guy Beane has at the top of his board. My guess is he likes Darnold and Rosen a lot more (with some justification IMO). But if he can't get what he wants, Lamar Jackson could be what he needs. Edited April 19, 2018 by starrymessenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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