Thurman#1 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Pete said: That 2014 team was the best since 99 IMO. That team was built to win and was playing great by year end. Too bad we hired Rex and didn't keep all the talent together. Doug stocked the shelves with truffles and fois gras galore, but Rex burned the meal and nearly burned down the restaurant. !@#$ Rex. Doug got mother!@#$ed by Rex Well, Doug hired Rex, so it's his responsibility in the long run. And don't give me that Whaley was overruled by the Pegulas. They were still young and inexperienced. If he'd taken them aside and told them he couldn't work with Rex and that Rex wasn't going to be able to work with the defensive personnel there as he said, they'd almost certainly have listened to him. He was their guy at that time. And as I've pointed out many times, the starters on that defense were virtually all Nix guys, with a couple pre-Nix. The Whaley guys were non-entities ... Preston Brown and Brandon Spikes if I remember correctly. If that's your idea of truffles and fois gras, you're not hired as my personal shopper. Edited April 17, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Well, Doug hired Rex, so it's his responsibility in the long run. And don't give me that Whaley was overruled by the Pegulas. They were still young and inexperienced. If he'd taken them aside and told them he couldn't work with Rex and that Rex wasn't going to be able to work with the defensive personnel there as he said, they'd almost certainly have listened to him. He was their guy at that time. And as I've pointed out many times, the starters on that defense were virtually all Nix guys, with a couple pre-Nix. The Whaley guys were non-entities ... Preston Brown and Brandon Spikes if I remember correctly. If that's your idea of truffles and fois gras, you're not hired as my personal shopper. The Pegulas hired Rex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Pete said: That 2014 team was the best since 99 IMO. That team was built to win and was playing great by year end. Too bad we hired Rex and didn't keep all the talent together. Doug stocked the shelves with truffles and fois gras galore, but Rex burned the meal and nearly burned down the restaurant. !@#$ Rex. Doug got mother!@#$ed by Rex 2004 says hello. No reason we should have lost that season finale against Pitt; we were primed to go 10-6, great offense and good enough defense. Like him or not, Drew was a franchise type QB. Great special teams play. Fans forget that team averaged nearly 40 points a game on that five game stretch towards the end. I think it was the most well rounded team since Jim Kelly was the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrEpsYtown Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good point. I feel like McDermott and Beane are more of the forward thinking variety. At least I hope that is the case. They have a really good mix of old school and new school on both the coaching staffs and scouting staffs. I still think they want Darnold or Rosen, but that could simply be my hope. Perhaps all this stuff about Rosen is being put out there by the Bills so they can grab him in that 7-10 range. Maybe they realized they can't trade up, so the best they could do is try to get their guy to slide. Can't wait to see how it all plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I have a hard time not seeing teams copy the KC models. Ones with a mid-later 1st and comfortable about their playoff standings giving up 2 1sts for Rosen. I have a hard time believing he'll slide that far. Cardinals / Saints / Chargers / Steelers / Pats could all be reasonable teams to move up and get him. Edited April 17, 2018 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CuddyDark Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, kdiggz said: You boys will get your wish. I hope it only costs 12 and 22. Edited April 17, 2018 by CuddyDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: would be amazing. obviously rosen isn't getting to 12 but if can be had at 7-8 while just giving up a 2nd or 3rd look out! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Trade 12 / 53 / 96 (1,686 points) for #6 (1,600 points). Take Rosen Trade 22 / 56 / 65 (1,385 points) for one of 8/9/10 (1,400 - 1,300 points). Take one of Roquan / Fitzpatrick / Edmonds / James. Profit. Edited April 17, 2018 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said: Trade 12 / 53 / 96 (1,686 points) for #6 (1,600 points). Take Rosen Trade 22 / 56 / 65 (1,385 points) for 8/9/10. Take one of Roquan / Fitzpatrick / Edmonds / James. Profit. If we end up with Rosen and Roquan, I'm going out and buying a lottery ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Giving up zero picks would be a great coup for the Bills. That I would actually love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Well, Doug hired Rex, so it's his responsibility in the long run. And don't give me that Whaley was overruled by the Pegulas Doug did not hire Rex. Terry did. That much was very obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Rosen please all effin day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 We really traded away a generational QB prospect in Mahomes and now we're waffling on taking a QB and or going to draft to Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: We really traded away a generational QB prospect in Mahomes and now we're waffling on taking a QB and or going to draft to Josh Allen. We did? Mahomes wouldn't even be a top 10 pick in this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: We really traded away a generational QB prospect in Mahomes and now we're waffling on taking a QB and or going to draft to Josh Allen. Throwing around generational a little loosely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Tyrod's friend said: 2004 says hello. No reason we should have lost that season finale against Pitt; we were primed to go 10-6, great offense and good enough defense. Like him or not, Drew was a franchise type QB. Great special teams play. Fans forget that team averaged nearly 40 points a game on that five game stretch towards the end. I think it was the most well rounded team since Jim Kelly was the QB. Drew was not the franchise type QB, and he set this team back. He had one good year with us. Other than that I remember a statue that once threw the ball out of bounds on 4th and 10 to stop the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, FeelingOnYouboty said: We really traded away a generational QB prospect in Mahomes and now we're waffling on taking a QB and or going to draft to Josh Allen. Generational QB prospect? So in other words, he's a once in a generation QB and better than Luck, Wentz, Wilson, Newton, Stafford, Matt Ryan, or any other QB who has come out in the past 10 (ish) years...? He hasnt even played a single season in the NFL yet, and by all accounts he wouldn't even be one of the top 4 QBs this year. He also wasn't graded among the top 10 QBs in the past 3 drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Tyrod's friend said: 2004 says hello. No reason we should have lost that season finale against Pitt; we were primed to go 10-6, great offense and good enough defense. Like him or not, Drew was a franchise type QB. Great special teams play. Fans forget that team averaged nearly 40 points a game on that five game stretch towards the end. I think it was the most well rounded team since Jim Kelly was the QB. Like I said- IMO. 2014 we led NFL in sacks and rushing yards. IMO if you run at will, get to the QB, ad play great defense, you will dominate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: Please be true. Trading up to Denver at #5 for Josh Rosen will really ease my anxiety. Edited April 17, 2018 by FeelingOnYouboty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheFunPolice Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 hopefully Rosen hits the weights a bit or NFL defenders are going to crush him. Then again, Brady basically looks like a skeleton these days so maybe he just needs to do yoga and drink liquid kale... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Rosen is the best thrower since Luck. Is he the most complete QB with a sky high ceiling, no. However, hes the most polished and most NFL style thrower who can make every pass and make them damn well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: hopefully Rosen hits the weights a bit or NFL defenders are going to crush him. Then again, Brady basically looks like a skeleton these days so maybe he just needs to do yoga and drink liquid kale... He's not exactly scrawny at 6' 4" 226 lbs. Edited April 17, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: hopefully Rosen hits the weights a bit or NFL defenders are going to crush him. Then again, Brady basically looks like a skeleton these days so maybe he just needs to do yoga and drink liquid kale... Exactly lol. A lot of that can be done with NFL based training and diet regiments. Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He's not exactly scrawny at 6/4" 226 lbs. I'm 6'0" 230... not happy about it but I'll tell ya stretch that over four inches and it's still not exactly skinny either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's not exactly scrawny at 6' 4" 226 lbs. Maybe it's just the powder blue uniforms... he seems skinny to me in the photo that seems to accompany every Rosen article online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: he thinks? it's no contest. Rosen was better than Goff at every level, best qb in the nation, definitely best prospect in california. Goff wishes he was at that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Rosen is the best thrower since Luck. Is he the most complete QB with a sky high ceiling, no. However, hes the most polished and most NFL style thrower who can make every pass and make them damn well. There's no reason why he can't improve as a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Maybe it's just the powder blue uniforms... he seems skinny to me in the photo that seems to accompany every Rosen article online He's a thinner guy with muscle. Since he's only 21, I think he will fill out and get a little thicker as he gets older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: There's no reason why he can't improve as a professional. I mean in this draft class i dont think he has the highest ceiling. I absolutely think his game will develop at the NFL level, but I just think Darnold has a higher ceiling. As does Allen but Allen has such an uphill battle to reach that potential. For me Rosen is also the least likely to outright bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, kdiggz said: he thinks? it's no contest. Rosen was better than Goff at every level, best qb in the nation, definitely best prospect in california. Goff wishes he was at that level Goff didn't come into a great situation with the Rams under Fisher, but I agree that Rosen is a better prospect who's more NFL ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Goff didn't come into a great situation with the Rams under Fisher, but I agree that Rosen is a better prospect who's more NFL ready. i'm talking about their whole lives leading up to that too. Rosen was the best prospect in cali, better than Goff and Darnold and all of those guys. been better every step of the way than Goff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, kdiggz said: i'm talking about their whole lives leading up to that too. Rosen was the best prospect in cali, better than Goff and Darnold and all of those guys. been better every step of the way than Goff No doubt. He's done nothing to dispel the hype coming into the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: hopefully Rosen hits the weights a bit or NFL defenders are going to crush him. Then again, Brady basically looks like a skeleton these days so maybe he just needs to do yoga and drink liquid kale... He needs to add some meat around his head, to help with concussions. I wonder if he could wear a Kelso type helmet....being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: I mean in this draft class i dont think he has the highest ceiling. I absolutely think his game will develop at the NFL level, but I just think Darnold has a higher ceiling. As does Allen but Allen has such an uphill battle to reach that potential. For me Rosen is also the least likely to outright bust. His ceiling as a long term excellent starting QB would be just fine for me as the Bills' Franchise guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No doubt. He's done nothing to dispel the hype coming into the NFL. Maybe that Thurm fella is Beane. Maybe the negative crusade on these boards is an attempt to get Rosen to fall to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 He has us getting Rosen at pick 12 in his latest mock today. That's best case scenario, but do we roll the dice with Miam at 11i? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: His ceiling as a long term excellent starting QB would be just fine for me as the Bills' Franchise guy. Believe me, I'm a huge Rosen supporter. I'm not trying to knock the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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