EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Damn I’ve got to pay better attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Looking at the options available, are we certain the Bills can't trade back? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, section122 said: The Dolphins make everyone on the board hate them and select Josh Rosen QB, UCLA. A couple of player comps you will see are to Cutler who Gase loves and his pure passing ability gets compared to Marino. Although Tannehil is still on the roster there will be a qb battle in the Dolphins camp. This is by far the bpa. @BuffaloHokie13 @Virgil you can put the poll up now. You're the worlds biggest piece of ****. Your mother never loved you. They charge you for samples at Costco. They built the Berlin wall to keep you out. You wish you had a micro penis. Figured I'd just get the ball rolling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Looking at the options available, are we certain the Bills can't trade back? A full year of making big moves, trading down in the 2017 draft, trading away a ton of talent for draft capital... and then this... So Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 yea this is worst case scenario for the bills top 4 qbs gone and top 2 lbs as backup plans are gone do we reach and take JAckson or Rudolph here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, Wsam4031 said: yea this is worst case scenario for the bills top 4 qbs gone and top 2 lbs as backup plans are gone I know it's all fun and games in here, but if we cant get the Giants to trade with us, this could be a very realistic outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Calvin Ridley? Then Mason at 22? idk anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I foresaw this yesterday lol. I'm sorry everyone! I almost pulled a Jimmy Haslem and tanked the pick to help out my favorite team. BTW googling Dolphins team owner shows a picture of Brady which I thought was hilarious. Until I googled Bills owner and someone did it to us too! Like I said though I can see the first 5 picks playing out how they did here (at least the names) which would put the Bills in a great spot. Trading to 2 doesn't seem as important to me as it did when we started the exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, section122 said: I foresaw this yesterday lol. I'm sorry everyone! I almost pulled a Jimmy Haslem and tanked the pick to help out my favorite team. BTW googling Dolphins team owner shows a picture of Brady which I thought was hilarious. Until I googled Bills owner and someone did it to us too! Like I said though I can see the first 5 picks playing out how they did here (at least the names) which would put the Bills in a great spot. Trading to 2 doesn't seem as important to me as it did when we started the exercise. I think you’re spot on. I also don’t think we need to trade down to #2. But it depends on who the Jets want and if he’s “our guy”. If things played out like this and we only had to jump to 10 to get Rosen, it would be the dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Vita Vea. No reason to stretch for a QB and take the 5th best QB in the draft when we could get the best DT available. Plus Rudolph could likely be available at 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: Vita Vea. No reason to stretch for a QB and take the 5th best QB in the draft when we could get the best DT available. Plus Rudolph could likely be available at 22 But does he and Star both go out there together? They kind of fill the same roll, don’t they? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Virgil said: But does he and Star both go out there together? They kind of fill the same roll, don’t they? I agree I think we go position of desperate need and go with LVE. Its a little high and may not be there at 22. Dudes a beast and perfect fit for mcd d also personally im a Jackson fan so would have no issue with the bills taking him herre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, Wsam4031 said: I agree I think we go position of desperate need and go with LVE. Its a little high and may not be there at 22. Dudes a beast and perfect fit for mcd d I think you hope for LVE at 22. Vea has been viewed at a top five talent in the whole draft, and would give us a tremendous replacement for Kyle. 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: But does he and Star both go out there together? They kind of fill the same roll, don’t they? IIRC they are both really stout run defenders, but I don’t see this as such a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Having done this exercise a couple times, it really feels like 6-7 is the inflection point for the final place to trade up for a QB. It goes to what Licht said about liking 7 guys likely to be available at pick 7. Realistically I think Chubb - Barkley - Nelson are the only guys teams could potentially favor over trading down, especially at pick 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: But does he and Star both go out there together? They kind of fill the same roll, don’t they? It's why I couldn't pick Vea. DT is a depth need not a glaring hole. Star, Washington and Kyle are an okay rotation. Vita wouldn't be a terrible pick just not as big a need as other spots (namely lb and qb - I'd probably even put wr above dt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I think you hope for LVE at 22. Vea has been viewed at a top five talent in the whole draft, and would give us a tremendous replacement for Kyle. IIRC they are both really stout run defenders, but I don’t see this as such a bad thing. Thing is I don't think he makes it to 22. I like Vea don't get me wrong, but dt with the signing of Star isn't our biggest ned rt now. Lb core looks pretty pitiful right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Where’s the poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Where’s the poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Thx...ouch...can we trade back? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Thx...ouch...can we trade back? ? This would seem to indicate that sticking at twelve and thinking at worst four early qb picks will push a really good pick your way is probably not the way to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Thx...ouch...can we trade back? ? I wish that were an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 It's almost close enough to call for Lamar at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) With the 12th Pick in TSW Mock Draft, the Buffalo Bills select Lamar Jackson, QB Louisville Here's some snippets from the presser: Beane - Since we weren't allowed to make trades, we decided to throw out the entire process, panic, and take Jackson. Sometimes, savants score low on tests. At least, that's what Lamar told us in his "fake agent" voice when we reached out to him. Unfortunately, he couldn't get his google calendar app to work, so we couldn't schedule a draft visit with him. I'm confident that this pick won't cost me my job at all.... McDermott - I'm sorry, we drafted who? ****....................................... Redskins are on the clock @billspro Edited April 6, 2018 by Virgil 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This mock is the most epic of all fails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Thx...ouch...can we trade back? ? Nope. That is a very silly idea. What reality is suppose to be is that NOBODY can trade up to beat us to one of the top 4-5 QB's. Nobody is going to way overpay. None of the teams picking before us are going to want to keep their pick for themselves rather than trade it for an equal value group of lower picks. There is no reason to speculate about what we might do at #12 and trading down is CERTAINLY not one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, maryland-bills-fan said: Nope. That is a very silly idea. What reality is suppose to be is that NOBODY can trade up to beat us to one of the top 4-5 QB's. Nobody is going to way overpay. None of the teams picking before us are going to want to keep their pick for themselves rather than trade it for an equal value group of lower picks. There is no reason to speculate about what we might do at #12 and trading down is CERTAINLY not one of them You're correct. How silly of me to even joke around about this very serious matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rico said: This mock is the most epic of all fails. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Wsam4031 said: Thing is I don't think he makes it to 22. I like Vea don't get me wrong, but dt with the signing of Star isn't our biggest ned rt now. Lb core looks pretty pitiful right now You cabbot draft the first round based on need. I agree, LB is terrible, but they should take the best player available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: You cabbot draft the first round based on need. I agree, LB is terrible, but they should take the best player available personally I think LVE will have just as much of an impact if not more than vea in the nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, Wsam4031 said: personally I think LVE will have just as much of an impact if not more than vea in the nfl You might be right, but the possibility of having both intrigued me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Hey, he could be a franchise player, but I didn't think that McBean was planning on a Tyrod Taylor the second. I voted for a positional player and would take a more-pocket passer guy at #22. http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018ljackson.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Hey, he could be a franchise player, but I didn't think that McBean was planning on a Tyrod Taylor the second. I voted for a positional player and would take a more-pocket passer guy at #22. http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018ljackson.php just because lamar Jackson had a lot of rushing yards doesn't mean hes tyrod 2.0. he actually goes through progressions and throws to the middle of the field. Just watch him play and youll see he nothing like tyrod 9 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: You might be right, but the possibility of having both intrigued me. Would absolutely love both but not if we cant get a qb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, Virgil said: With the 12th Pick in TSW Mock Draft, the Buffalo Bills select Lamar Jackson, QB Louisville Here's some snippets from the presser: Beane - Since we weren't allowed to make trades, we decided to throw out the entire process, panic, and take Jackson. Sometimes, savants score low on tests. At least, that's what Lamar told us in his "fake agent" voice when we reached out to him. Unfortunately, he couldn't get his google calendar app to work, so we couldn't schedule a draft visit with him. I'm confident that this pick won't cost me my job at all.... McDermott - I'm sorry, we drafted who? ****....................................... Redskins are on the clock @billspro If Rudolph is available at #22 the whole FO who made this pick should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: If Rudolph is available at #22 the whole FO who made this pick should be fired. this is incorrect thinking. you don't gamble with QB, you pick one and then you get him. too important of a position. if they like Rudolph then they take him at 12. who knows who likes who and who is going to trade up to get their guy. too many if's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, kdiggz said: this is incorrect thinking. you don't gamble with QB, you pick one and then you get him. too important of a position. if they like Rudolph then they take him at 12. who knows who likes who and who is going to trade up to get their guy. too many if's Well, if we're really following that logic we would have traded up to #2 and got our guy. Which I am all for. But Im just playing strictly within the confines of this whacky mock. Considering WE were the ones that picked Jackson, that was what I was getting at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Well, if we're really following that logic we would have traded up to #2 and got our guy. Which I am all for. But Im just playing strictly within the confines of this whacky mock. Considering WE were the ones that picked Jackson, that was what I was getting at... I see. I think because you can't trade up in this I think the Bills would have to take a QB at 12 because the next 2 could be gone by 22. I think Cards at 15 are a team that will get a guy and then who knows maybe Ravens, you never know. I'm not a Jackson fan but I think he's more of a sure thing than Rudolph so the pick is ok by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Well, if we're really following that logic we would have traded up to #2 and got our guy. Which I am all for. But Im just playing strictly within the confines of this whacky mock. Considering WE were the ones that picked Jackson, that was what I was getting at... Trading 3 first round picks a 2nd and 3rd pick and Cordy Glenn to get a QB (Rosen) who is one concussion away from a career playing tennis, may not be a great idea either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Should have taken Leighton Vander Esch. This is a catastrophe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, kdiggz said: I see. I think because you can't trade up in this I think the Bills would have to take a QB at 12 because the next 2 could be gone by 22. I think Cards at 15 are a team that will get a guy and then who knows maybe Ravens, you never know. I'm not a Jackson fan but I think he's more of a sure thing than Rudolph so the pick is ok by me Which is why I said IF one is still there, WE screwed up. I would have left Jackson to the Cards, and expected Rudolph to then slide to us at #22. I personally prefer Rudolph to Jackson, and we'd have a better D talent added at #12 instead of #22. 3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Trading 3 first round picks a 2nd and 3rd pick and Cordy Glenn to get a QB (Rosen) who is one concussion away from a career playing tennis, may not be a great idea either. Maybe not, but it would be nice to see the Bills actually try for once in their entire 58 year history, since the passive approach hasnt worked well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Redskins/blokestramus are having a bad go at the draft. Tanking for the year to get Alex Smith some more support against the eagles. Best of luck bloke, you may be wasting Alex Smith's final years. Get some personnel to help out RGIII if he has a Vick like comeback or gimmick plays. Could be your only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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