Tyrod's friend Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 "All of these old and/or expensive players can’t be replaced easily in the draft because the Rams have traded away so many picks: They sent their first-round pick to New England for Cooks, their second-round pick to Buffalo for Sammy Watkins, their fourth-round pick this year and second-round pick next year to Kansas City for Peters, their fifth-round pick to Denver for Talib and their seventh-round pick to Washington for Derek Carrier. The Rams have added some draft picks in trades as well, but those are late in the draft: The Rams’ first draft pick is 87th overall, and that’s their only pick in the Top 130."Has the expanding cap space increased the value of a draft pick, or decreased it? Given the fixed cost of draft picks and the increasing costs of signing veterans it doesn't seem there can be another way to see this. The value of draft picks must be going up. What does this say about the Rams strategy over the last several years? For those that remember, isn't it familiar to see a former George Allen team seem to turn it's back on rookie talent?http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/04/rams-have-plenty-of-cap-space-in-2019-and-theyll-need-it/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Comp picks is where its at. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 We'll find out in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: "All of these old and/or expensive players can’t be replaced easily in the draft because the Rams have traded away so many picks: They sent their first-round pick to New England for Cooks, their second-round pick to Buffalo for Sammy Watkins, their fourth-round pick this year and second-round pick next year to Kansas City for Peters, their fifth-round pick to Denver for Talib and their seventh-round pick to Washington for Derek Carrier. The Rams have added some draft picks in trades as well, but those are late in the draft: The Rams’ first draft pick is 87th overall, and that’s their only pick in the Top 130."Has the expanding cap space increased the value of a draft pick, or decreased it? Given the fixed cost of draft picks and the increasing costs of signing veterans it doesn't seem there can be another way to see this. The value of draft picks must be going up.What does this say about the Rams strategy over the last several years? For those that remember, isn't it familiar to see a former George Allen team seem to turn it's back on rookie talent?http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/04/rams-have-plenty-of-cap-space-in-2019-and-theyll-need-it/ It's a one year strategy so far and it's hard to say how it will play out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 It will work in the Shirley term but as soon as Goffs cookie deal is done and coupled w Donald's deal is done they will be tight money and not any cheap talent to plug in the holes where they have to let go of some veteran players due money. I think they have their window but is open shorter than it could be. Just my opinion 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: "All of these old and/or expensive players can’t be replaced easily in the draft because the Rams have traded away so many picks: They sent their first-round pick to New England for Cooks, their second-round pick to Buffalo for Sammy Watkins, their fourth-round pick this year and second-round pick next year to Kansas City for Peters, their fifth-round pick to Denver for Talib and their seventh-round pick to Washington for Derek Carrier. The Rams have added some draft picks in trades as well, but those are late in the draft: The Rams’ first draft pick is 87th overall, and that’s their only pick in the Top 130."Has the expanding cap space increased the value of a draft pick, or decreased it? Given the fixed cost of draft picks and the increasing costs of signing veterans it doesn't seem there can be another way to see this. The value of draft picks must be going up. What does this say about the Rams strategy over the last several years? For those that remember, isn't it familiar to see a former George Allen team seem to turn it's back on rookie talent?http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/04/rams-have-plenty-of-cap-space-in-2019-and-theyll-need-it/ Notice they didn't have any luck in the Quarterback department until they drafted one? The bigger question is if draft picks outside of Quarterbacks are overrated? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Brandin Cooks is much better then any WR in this class IMO. He is good value for the 23 pick. And a 5th for Talib is a bargain 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Les Snead has a history of doing stupid things. I'm sticking with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 slightly OT- would you rather have Jared Goff or Aaron Donald? Myself, Aaron Donald all day. He is one of best players in the NFL 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, Pete said: slightly OT- would you rather have Jared Goff or Aaron Donald? Myself, Aaron Donald all day. He is one of best players in the NFL Goff. He is projecting to be a top 10 QB in the league. That beats a DE any day of the week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsicat17 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Rams are pushing all their chips to the middle for this year. If you truly believe that you have an excellent chance at a championship then go for it. But draft picks are essential for building your team at a discounted rate so you can get to the point of going all-in. A couple of years and they will be back on the treadmill once again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 If they can sign them, yes. If not, you will not have replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pete said: slightly OT- would you rather have Jared Goff or Aaron Donald? Myself, Aaron Donald all day. He is one of best players in the NFL a QB takes you to the Super Bowl. A DT doesn't. And AD is great too Would you rather have Tre White or Deshaun Watson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I've thought draft picks were overvalued for a while - ever since (at least) we traded away Marshawn for next to nothing (a 4th and a conditional/5th). It almost seems like arrogance on the part of GMs - as if they believe they can translate a mid round pick into a Pro Bowler/Hall of Famer. Usually they can't. The price to move up in the draft is insane. It's cheaper actually to get a veteran who's already proven himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 YES! I've been a draftnik since the 80's but first round picks are the most over-rated method of acquiring talent............and if you can get a good NFL player in exchange for a 3rd round pick you will win that trade most of the time. First round picks should be used to take chances on QB........OR to take shots at filling other high dollar positions like Pass Rusher/LT/WR1/CB1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 When Bobby Beathard was GM of the Redskins & Chargers, he would trade first round picks constantly. Guess it all depends on your outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: "All of these old and/or expensive players can’t be replaced easily in the draft because the Rams have traded away so many picks: They sent their first-round pick to New England for Cooks, their second-round pick to Buffalo for Sammy Watkins, their fourth-round pick this year and second-round pick next year to Kansas City for Peters, their fifth-round pick to Denver for Talib and their seventh-round pick to Washington for Derek Carrier. The Rams have added some draft picks in trades as well, but those are late in the draft: The Rams’ first draft pick is 87th overall, and that’s their only pick in the Top 130."Has the expanding cap space increased the value of a draft pick, or decreased it? Given the fixed cost of draft picks and the increasing costs of signing veterans it doesn't seem there can be another way to see this. The value of draft picks must be going up. What does this say about the Rams strategy over the last several years? For those that remember, isn't it familiar to see a former George Allen team seem to turn it's back on rookie talent?http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/04/rams-have-plenty-of-cap-space-in-2019-and-theyll-need-it/ They have their QB on his rookie deal. Their strategy will change when he’s making top 5 money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: a QB takes you to the Super Bowl. A DT doesn't. And AD is great too Would you rather have Tre White or Deshaun Watson? C Lamar Jackson at 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The way I see it, the Rams were screwed in a couple years anyways when they'll likely be paying Gurley, Goff, and Donald roughly $70 million per year, so they might as well push their chips in for these next couple of years and hope that it's worth the pain and suffering that will come in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Pete said: C Lamar Jackson at 12 LOL I can't wait for the draft, just to see what happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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