starrymessenger Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm with those who say (guess) that Darnold will be the first player off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 11:23 AM, Dalton said: The delta in the ceiling between Darnold and Allen is smaller than the delta between them in the floor. To me this is a clear risk management decision and Cleveland will select Darnold as a result. Gotta disagree on both. Their floors are both rock bottom. That delta is 0. Allen actually has a much higher ceiling, although I’d certainly say the odds of him achieving it are even smaller than Darnold’s (which aren’t high). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: These are pretty ground breaking criteria. Quote Edited April 19, 2018 by Epstein's Mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, PIZ said: If he comes here I expect that pressure number to be in the high 40's, kind of like the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: If he comes here I expect that pressure number to be in the high 40's, kind of like the weather. Allen probably sits a year while McCarron faces the pressure. Next years draft and FA will presumably greatly improve the oline (plus whatever we add in this draft.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 There’s a possibility that the Browns draft Josh Allen No. 1 and LeBron leaves the Cavs all in a span of a little over three months. K Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: There’s a possibility that the Browns draft Josh Allen No. 1 and LeBron leaves the Cavs all in a span of a little over three months. K Bye. Josh "Big Hands" Allen is the number 1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: There’s a possibility that the Browns draft Josh Allen No. 1 and LeBron leaves the Cavs all in a span of a little over three months. K Bye. LeBrons as good as gone unless Altman makes some impressive moves. I just don’t think the Browns could take Allen. Could they?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Gotta disagree on both. Their floors are both rock bottom. That delta is 0. Allen actually has a much higher ceiling, although I’d certainly say the odds of him achieving it are even smaller than Darnold’s (which aren’t high). A bust is a bust and a bust is rock bottom however you want to slice it. When all is said and done I think that Allen is a riskier pick than Sam Darnold, though they could both bust. Each has a very high ceilings but again, because of Allen's greater downside risk profile he is less likely than Darnold to achieve it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: A bust is a bust and a bust is rock bottom however you want to slice it. When all is said and done I think that Allen is a riskier pick than Sam Darnold, though they could both bust. Each has a very high ceilings but again, because of Allen's greater downside risk profile he is less likely than Darnold to achieve it IMO. True, but this: If you bust with a presumably safe pick, nobody is second guessing you. If you bust at the top of the draft taking a guy everyone warned you about, you're a real idiot. It's said no stock broker ever got fired for telling a client to buy Berkshire Hathaway. But wouldn't buying Netflix five years ago feel pretty good right about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: True, but this: If you bust with a presumably safe pick, nobody is second guessing you. If you bust at the top of the draft taking a guy everyone warned you about, you're a real idiot. It's said no stock broker ever got fired for telling a client to buy Berkshire Hathaway. But wouldn't buying Netflix five years ago feel pretty good right about now? Well I agree that not all busts are created equal. I think I saw where Joe Marino predicted that both Darnold and Allen will bust, but I don't think he assigned probability factors. Given his conclusion maybe it really doesn't really matter. No doubt if Allen realizes his potential whoever picks him is going to look really smart. If he busts the more you sacrifice to get him the dumber you will seem to be. I like Allen but I would not push all my chips on that square. I'd move up for Darnold even if Rosen is my preferred pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Maybe I am paying more attention this year, but it sure seems like more rumors are flying around this draft than I can ever remember. Edited April 23, 2018 by Lagoon Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, Lagoon Blues said: Maybe I am paying more attention this year, but it sure seems like more rumors and flying around this draft than I can ever remember. Might be that way with no clear cut #1 QB with five that are expected to go in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Is it Thursday yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said: Maybe I am paying more attention this year, but it sure seems like more rumors and flying around this draft than I can ever remember. probably just because there are so many QBs..... Just now, JinxedBill1 said: Is it Thursday yet? No, it's Monday...Thursday is in a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Dan Patrick’s trusted guy is Allen is their choice. Darnold is just a smoke screen. Kings trusted guy says no Allen. So whose guys is a better trusted guy? I like both King and Patrick....I just hope Patrick is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Let Allen go to jets or broncos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said: Maybe I am paying more attention this year, but it sure seems like more rumors are flying around this draft than I can ever remember. I think we might be looking at the beginning of the Josh Allen era at 1 Bills Drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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