Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: Were getting Rosen so have fun getting smoked every year As of right now he is not making it to 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: As of right now he is not making it to 12. IMO if he makes it past Denver then Miami or Arizona will move up for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, xRUSHx said: IMO if he makes it past Denver then Miami or Arizona will move up for sure For sure, one of you guys will. If the Browns take Allen then you guys will be trading with Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Bleedingreennc said: As of right now he is not making it to 12. We don’t need him to get to 12. We’re moving up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, kdiggz said: if a normal top 5 QB has a 50% shot of being a franchise QB, I'd say Allen has about a 10% chance. it's not that he's bad, it's that he's such a project that nobody knows so to draft him that high is insane. he might be very good but there's a much better chance that he's bad like he has been his whole life  I heard a great analogy where an analyst compared him to an NBA prospect when they came straight out of high school. It's purely a projection based off his athletic ability, and the odds are overwhelmingly that he won't work out, but in 3-4 years if everything goes right in his development you might have a total stud on your hands. He said in the NBA, that type of risk made sense because elite players are so valuable because they're on the court 80% of the time. He said in the NFL, where there are so many players on the roster and QBs are such a risk to begin with that he didn't think it made sense for him to be such a high pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Please let the Bill's take that chance. Do not project the fears of what your team will do onto mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, aristocrat said: We don’t need him to get to 12. We’re moving up Gotta have a trade partner. 7 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Do not project the fears of what your team will do onto mine. Not doing that at all, I'm intrigued at what is going to happen just like all of you. What's being said on here is being said in all message boards of the top ten teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Gotta have a trade partner. Not doing that at all, I'm intrigued at what is going to happen just like all of you. What's being said on here is being said in all message boards of the top ten teams. I legitimately think you're taking Allen if he's there at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: I legitimately think you're taking Allen if he's there at 3. Â If Allen goes #3 to the Jets, the draft night early on would be just awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 it doesn't matter, Jets could take the best QB to ever come out and he will be horrible because it's the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I legitimately think you're taking Allen if he's there at 3. Please god no!!!! I know you guys would love that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Gotta have a trade partner. Not doing that at all, I'm intrigued at what is going to happen just like all of you. What's being said on here is being said in all message boards of the top ten teams.  We will find a partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said:  We will find a partner. I would say not in the top 4, I would think Denver is the optimal spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Please god no!!!! I know you guys would love that! The only guy I don't see you taking is Rosen. My guess at your board is Darnold, Allen, Mayfield in that order, and I think their relative comfort with all 3 is the reason they were willing to move up early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The only guy I don't see you taking is Rosen. My guess at your board is Darnold, Allen, Mayfield in that order, and I think their relative comfort with all 3 is the reason they were willing to move up early. Agreed, I think the Trump thing with Rosen is the reason we will not take him. Which sucks because he is a great qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: I would say not in the top 4, I would think Denver is the optimal spot. Â yup. denver or indy. just gets less and less as to what we have to give up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Please god no!!!! I know you guys would love that! Â Every fanbase in the NFL is united in their fears that they will be the team to draft Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 4/2/2018 at 2:14 PM, SoCoBills said: Take it for what it’s worth. If true then wow, the Browns are still the Browns. What a mistake in the making.  UPDATE: Broadcast by some social media pages as fact and some more reputable sources as more of a strong rumor. You guys are crazy, Allen is a once in a decade talent, smartest QB in the draft, comes off as a hard worker and good kid in interviews, Bills fans are clueless on Allen for some reason. If you watch a couple of his games you will see that his accuracy is great, he just makes a lot of lower percentage throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I legitimately think you're taking Allen if he's there at 3. Whoever the Jets take will be locked in the basement like the ones before him. They like to play old journeymen and are scared as **** to play anyone they draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Agreed, I think the Trump thing with Rosen is the reason we will not take him. Which sucks because he is a great qb I think we can all agree with this F&*! Brady and the Cheats. I hope they have a horrible draft and the 'Phins do something stupid; I really hate both of those teams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Agreed, I think the Trump thing with Rosen is the reason we will not take him. Which sucks because he is a great qb  That would be one of the reasons to take him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: You guys are crazy, Allen is a once in a decade talent, smartest QB in the draft, comes off as a hard worker and good kid in interviews, Bills fans are clueless on Allen for some reason. If you watch a couple of his games you will see that his accuracy is great, he just makes a lot of lower percentage throws. Darnold and Allen are my first two choices. I would like to trade up to 2 in order to secure whoever the Browns pass on. Unfortunately, unlikely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I think we can all agree with this F&*! Brady and the Cheats. I hope they have a horrible draft and the 'Phins do something stupid; I really hate both of those teams Amen!!!! 38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Whoever the Jets take will be locked in the basement like the ones before him. They like to play old journeymen and are scared as **** to play anyone they draft. Not this season, their jobs are on the line, they screw this up and they are gone! 58 minutes ago, aristocrat said:  yup. denver or indy. just gets less and less as to what we have to give up I would think that it would be more and more the closer it gets to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: Not this season, their jobs are on the line, they screw this up and they are gone! Which is why if I were a Jets fan I would be worried about blowing it, so far your current FO has not put together a really good draft. Hard to have confidence that they get this right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Which is why if I were a Jets fan I would be worried about blowing it, so far your current FO has not put together a really good draft. Hard to have confidence that they get this right.... Not at all, we got lucky that Adam's and William's fell in our laps. I have no faith in them, just another in a long line of fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 55 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Which is why if I were a Jets fan I would be worried about blowing it, so far your current FO has not put together a really good draft. Hard to have confidence that they get this right.... Mac and Bowels (sic) hoodwinked the owner into the extension by promising to deliver a QB. I’m guessing they go with the guy the owner reportedly loves (mayfield) over the one who said !@#$ you to the owner’s BFF and political ally. It’s their own career suicide otherwise but we will see what kind of balls they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, kdiggz said: it doesn't matter, Jets could take the best QB to ever come out and he will be horrible because it's the Jets. And the Bill's have done any better lately? 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Mac and Bowels (sic) hoodwinked the owner into the extension by promising to deliver a QB. I’m guessing they go with the guy the owner reportedly loves (mayfield) over the one who said !@#$ you to the owner’s BFF and political ally. It’s their own career suicide otherwise but we will see what kind of balls they have. They showed bells by moving up, that's a start. But hitting on the right one is a different story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Bleedingreennc said: And the Bill's have done any better lately? They showed bells by moving up, that's a start. But hitting on the right one is a different story.  How do Jets fans feel about Menish Mehta? Is he considered reliable? He joins WGR all the time to talk football and sounds informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: And the Bill's have done any better lately? Definitely not but you have tried really hard. We haven't even taken a shot except for EJ Manuel. Whoever you draft, Hackenberg, Petty, Geno. And that's just the past 5 years! Â And let's not forget about the Sanchize! Edited April 24, 2018 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:  How do Jets fans feel about Menish Mehta? Is he considered reliable? He joins WGR all the time to talk football and sounds informative. He is a hack just like everyone in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Well if they don't then I hope we do. I'm ready for some Josh Allen in my life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I actually think they are in the best position to take Allen. They are clearly promoting TYrod as the starter. He’s getting starting QB treatment around Cleveland. They are setting it up as the QB of the future will be drafted but as a developmental guy. I think they can sell Allen as the high upside guy as they sell Tyrod as the guy who is going to come in an actually win some games for the city, get the team back to being competitive, jmo  contrast that to the Bills, who aren’t really promoting AJ at all and signed him to a backup level deal relatively late in FA. They are setting it up as they are taking the starting QB in the draft. It would be weird to me if the one who needs the most development is their pick. Again  Jmo  I've had this same thought, and it's what gives me hope that Allen isn't the pick and maybe Rosen is.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, GoBills808 said: Well if they don't then I hope we do. I'm ready for some Josh Allen in my life. From your lips to gods ears! It's amazing how many people on all forums are split on the qb's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: From your lips to gods ears! It's amazing how many people on all forums are split on the qb's. My track record on guessing which drafted QBs are going to be any good is pretty strong. Not to brag or anything but I was up on Wentz when he was still projected in the third. I definitely know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, GoBills808 said: My track record on guessing which drafted QBs are going to be any good is pretty strong. Not to brag or anything but I was up on Wentz when he was still projected in the third. I definitely know what I'm talking about. Well, I hope your right about Allen going to the Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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