Wings and Beer Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I see a lot of predictions for what the top drafted QBs this year will become. However, they are spread out randomly across the 100 QB threads going right now (and yes, I recognize this makes 101). I say we state our predictions all in this thread and then open it up 4 years from now. We will limit it to the consensus top 5 (darn it, Rosie, all-in, may-day, and Jack rabbit) and set the prediction standards as: 1). HOF pace (Brady, Rodgers, Brees) 2). Face of Franchise (Ryan, Stafford, Newton) 3). Solid starter (Cousins, Carr, A Smith) 4). Weak starter (Cutler, Tyrod, Bortles) 5). Backup/Bust (Manuel, Manziel, Sanchez) While we all recognize that the organization each QB goes to will have an impact on his success, for the purpose of this thread we will turn a blind eye to that impact. My predictions... Darnold----Solid Starter Rosen------Bust (concussions) Allen--------Face of Franchise Mayfield--Solid Starter Jackson---Weak Starter The goal here is not to debate, but rather to go on record, lock it away, and then hold ourselves accountable for our predictions in 4 years. Have fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Darnold---Face of Franchise Rosen---HOF Pace; Bust if Concussions Allen---Backup/Bust (the next Jake Locker/Brock Oswiler) Mayfield--HOF Pace Jackson--Face of Franchise 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otagoyellow Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Darnold---Face of Franchise Rosen---HOF Pace; Bust if Concussions Allen---Backup/Bust (the next Jake Locker/Brock Oswiler) Mayfield--HOF Pace Jackson--Face of Franchise I'm just going to put myself on the record and agree with all of the above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Darnold- Face of Franchise Rosen- Face of Franchise Allen- Solid Starter Mayfield- Weak to Solid Starter Jackson- Solid Starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPbillsfan Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Wings and Beer said: I see a lot of predictions for what the top drafted QBs this year will become. However, they are spread out randomly across the 100 QB threads going right now (and yes, I recognize this makes 101). I say we state our predictions all in this thread and then open it up 4 years from now. We will limit it to the consensus top 5 (darn it, Rosie, all-in, may-day, and Jack rabbit) and set the prediction standards as: 1). HOF pace (Brady, Rodgers, Brees) 2). Face of Franchise (Ryan, Stafford, Newton) 3). Solid starter (Cousins, Carr, A Smith) 4). Weak starter (Cutler, Tyrod, Bortles) 5). Backup/Bust (Manuel, Manziel, Sanchez) While we all recognize that the organization each QB goes to will have an impact on his success, for the purpose of this thread we will turn a blind eye to that impact. My predictions... Darnold----Solid Starter Rosen------Bust (concussions) Allen--------Face of Franchise Mayfield--Solid Starter Jackson---Weak Starter The goal here is not to debate, but rather to go on record, lock it away, and then hold ourselves accountable for our predictions in 4 years. Have fun. Darnold - Face of the Franchise Jackson - Face of the Franchise Allen - Solid Starter Mayfield - Solid Starter Rosen - Bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 It's almost impossible to predict HOF. Bo Jackson might be the best athlete in history and was an all star in 2 sports at the same time but probably doesn't have the career stats to be in the hall of fame for either. But he was arguably one of the best that ever did it. I saw it with my own eyes, he was better than all of these other players that got in. The HOF is about career accomplishments not about who is the best player. Josh Rosen has HOF potential but I don't think he will play 15-20 yrs to be able to put up enough stats. I think 10 yrs and he's done. Doesn't mean he can't win a super bowl or 2 during that time. Darnold----Solid Starter Rosen------Face of Franchise Allen--------Solid Starter Mayfield--Weak Starter Jackson---Weak Starter I had to put Mayfield as weak starter because you listed Cutler as a weak starter and I think he will have a similar career. I think that would have been solid starter territory but as it's listed I have to put weak. Coincidentally Cutler also started in Denver and that's where I see Mayfield going at pick 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 But don't get it twisted, I think Baker Mayfield will be a solid NFL starter. I'm just going by the grading system above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 TSW will crash after the Bills first pick, regardless of who it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Darnold---- Gets off to the best start of any QB. Darnold will struggle but he'll also show exactly why he was picked #1. I think he's got the best shot at having a long career and the best shot at being a great QB. Rosen------ He's my bust prediction. I think there's something wrong with this kid mentally and physically. I think the NFL chews him up and spits him out. If its injuries that get him - I think he'll have a Bradford type career but give up much sooner. If its mental that gets him - I think we'll see a Colts Jeff George career then he'll give up. I think it's a race to what gets him first. Allen------ His best path is a team that can bring him along like Big Ben. His first few years he'll need a defense and running game to give him time to develop. In the right situation, I think he and Darnold are the premier QB's that come out of this class. Mayfield-- He's another bust prediction to me. I think he struggles to control his emotions. He's going to be asked if he feels disrespected not being selected higher. He'll feel like he needs to show confidence and he'll talk more than he should. I believe he'll put pressure on himself and when he doesn't perform the media will put pressure on him and he'll crack. Seems like the type of guy to explode in a post game interview after a poor performance and will have residual effects. Jackson--- I think Lamar is supremely talented and he'll start for 5-6 years and show he's a capable NFL QB. I don't think he's a good enough pocket passer to have a 12-15 year career but his teams will win games. His high school didn't have a play book so when he got to college he was confused. He wasn't sure what they were asking him to do but he worked hard and a light bulb went off and he learned how film study helped him. I think with all QB's that have the option to run - they struggle with when to run. The NFL will accelerate those decisions and make them even more difficult to make. He's got a legit shot but I'm not sure he's a QB that because of him, has a super bowl shot every year. I think he's an up and down guy. His ups will be amazing and he'll be a fun player to watch. He's got to get bigger, IMO. He needs to be in that 225-230 pound range or injury is a big concern for me. To be great, he'll need to learn only to run when he has to. Edited March 25, 2018 by White Linen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Darnold- Face of Franchise Rosen- Solid Starter Allen- Bust Mayfield- Hall of Fame Pace Jackson- Face of Franchise Rudolph - Backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Darnold - Bust ... Turnover machine in HS, turnover machine in college, USC QB's have sucked in the NFL since Carson Palmer graduated. Rosen - Bust ... Concussed twice last year, another concussion or two and Dr dad will talk him into playing tennis for a living Allen - Face of Franchise ... Never had a QB coach until this past season, smart kid will learn quick, cannon for an arm Mayfield - Solid Starter - Accurate, ultra competitive Jackson - Solid Starter ... Will continue to improve as a passer, best runner at the QB position, Exciting to watch Rudolph - Undecided at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Darnold- Solid Starter Rosen- Solid Starter but shorten career Allen- Journeymen Backup Mayfield- Face of Franchise Jackson-Solid Starter Rudolph- Journeymen Backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Darnold---Solid Starter Rosen---HOF Pace; Bust if Concussions Allen---Backup/Bust Mayfield--Face of Franchise Jackson--Face of Franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Darnold--Face of Franchise Rosen--Face of Franchise Mayfield--Face of Franchise Allen--Solid Starter Jackson--Solid Starter Edited March 25, 2018 by Awwufelloff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Darnold - Bust ... Turnover machine in HS, turnover machine in college, USC QB's have sucked in the NFL since Carson Palmer graduated. Rosen - Bust ... Concussed twice last year, another concussion or two and Dr dad will talk him into playing tennis for a living Allen - Face of Franchise ... Never had a QB coach until this past season, smart kid will learn quick, cannon for an arm Mayfield - Solid Starter - Accurate, ultra competitive Jackson - Solid Starter ... Will continue to improve as a passer, best runner at the QB position, Exciting to watch Rudolph - Undecided at this point Where did you hear Allen was smart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Darnold----Face of Franchise Rosen------Solid Starter (Alex Smith esque) Allen--------Bust Mayfield--Solid Starter (potentially Face of Franchise) Jackson---Weak Starter (backup) Rudolph - Weak Starter (backup) Edited March 25, 2018 by BigDingus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I suggest holding off on this until after the draft when we know which QB goes where Any of these QBs will have very different career with the Giants or Chargers than they would have with the Browns or Jets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Okay I will put myself out there Darnold- HOF pace Rosen- Face of the Franchise (or injuries could make him the next Bradford) Mayfield- Solid starter Allen- Bust Jackson- Weak starter Rudolph- Weak starter White- Solid starter Woodside- Journeyman starter (next McCown, Fitzpatrick, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Darnold - (Bust) Browns Suck Rosen- (Great) Definitely has a SB win. Allen- (Good) Never makes it to a SB. Mayfield -(Mega Bust) Jackson- (Good) Never wind a SB. Edited March 25, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Wings and Beer said: I see a lot of predictions for what the top drafted QBs this year will become. However, they are spread out randomly across the 100 QB threads going right now (and yes, I recognize this makes 101). I say we state our predictions all in this thread and then open it up 4 years from now. We will limit it to the consensus top 5 (darn it, Rosie, all-in, may-day, and Jack rabbit) and set the prediction standards as: 1). HOF pace (Brady, Rodgers, Brees) 2). Face of Franchise (Ryan, Stafford, Newton) 3). Solid starter (Cousins, Carr, A Smith) 4). Weak starter (Cutler, Tyrod, Bortles) 5). Backup/Bust (Manuel, Manziel, Sanchez) While we all recognize that the organization each QB goes to will have an impact on his success, for the purpose of this thread we will turn a blind eye to that impact. My predictions... Darnold----Solid Starter Rosen------Bust (concussions) Allen--------Face of Franchise Mayfield--Solid Starter Jackson---Weak Starter The goal here is not to debate, but rather to go on record, lock it away, and then hold ourselves accountable for our predictions in 4 years. Have fun. Good thread. I'll be a little different - I'll put down best and worse case scenarios Darnold - Best: Face of Franchise (Stafford) Worse: Solid to Weak Starter / Cousins to Cutler Rosen - Best: Face of Franchise (Eli Manning) Worse: Bust (agree: concussions/injury/David Carr - if healthy - Solid Starter - Cousins) Allen - Best: Face of Franchise (Flacco-plus) Worse: Bust (Ryan Leif) Mayfield - Best: Solid Starter (Cousins) Worse: Back-up (Sanchez) Jackson - Best: Face of Franchise (Vick) Worse: Weak starter Rudolph - Best: HOF pace (Brady) Worse: Weak starter (Bortles) 14 minutes ago, /dev/null said: I suggest holding off on this until after the draft when we know which QB goes where Any of these QBs will have very different career with the Giants or Chargers than they would have with the Browns or Jets Was going to mention this as well. I think team and situation make a huge difference. I just went on theory that each QB has an equal chance to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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