Dan Patrick: Bills have called Browns about #1 pick

[reddogblitz]

I'm sure a lot of teams have talked to Cleveland about that pick.

[ndirish1978]

22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I missed what his tweet was in response to. What does he mean “it’s happening”

 

Said the Bills are trading up and it will be announced today

[turftoe]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Even if the Jets did try to trade with the Giants (I don’t think they did), they do not have the same draft capital as the Bills. They may have only been open to parting with those 2nd rounders. Giants may have told them it starts with 2 1sts and goes from there, even if only to 6. Because they know they will get 12 and 22 plus more from the Bills. And IF the giants were willing to talk to the Jets about a trade they very likely would squeeze them extra tight with the intra-market rivalry and microscope. 

True. I guess it all boils down to how much the Giants feel they need a QB.  They are sitting pretty, if they want one.

[gobills1212]

Meanwhile, this is pretty impressive. I caught it perfect where the top 7 threads were ALL Manson Rudolph a minute ago, but sadly my screen shot is too large a file to post and I can't figure out how to condense it. No pic takes away the point.. but it was a thing of beauty 

[turftoe]

5 hours ago, xRUSHx said:

So after all this trading and moving players you are ok with this team once again using a backup QB from another team as it's starting QB. To wish for that one miracle, yippy

I didn't say we should stop trying to get one of the top guys but if the Giants and Browns do not want to move down then the top 4 guys are probably gone at pick 5. I'm not sure there is another QB worthy of a first rounder. I just happen to think that McCarron is going to do well with Daboll as OC.

[BringBackFergy]

[Jamie Muellers Ghost]

58 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said:

Apologies.  Should I delete my post?

 

Which thread BTW? This is helping me compensate for not taking my antidepressant today.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[Bill_with_it]

6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I do not think the Browns are moving. I do think the Bills are determining market for the #1 now that the cost for #3 is locked in, to re-set on their offer for the #2 pick. 

 

Its the same thing they did in FA with the QBs. Beane straight up said that they made calls about QBs as due diligence on market with no intent on signing them. 

This needs to be stickied in every draft and free agent thread until the end of time!

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

 

“I know everybody assumes we’re going higher, but I don’t know that. But there are some players at 12 that I know would not have fallen to 21, so I’m excited about that. We’re in the range for some of these guys and that’s not necessarily quarterback.”

 

With this statement, Beane is trying to send a message to GM’s across the league that the Bills are not desperate to trade up. He then goes out of his way to point out that it might not necessarily be a quarterback who the Bills value which also helps in trade negotiations as teams know they can charge more if you are trading up for what you believe is a franchise quarterback.

I don’t think that he’s being completely truthful about it not necessarily being a quarterback, but where I do see some truth is that Beane assigns strict values to things and that he will not pay more than he has deemed appropriate even if that means missing out on a quarterback that he likes.

 

“We got him [McCarron] and Nathan right now on the roster and those guys will compete. We’ll see what else happens between now and the first game.”

 

 

There was no reason for Beane to add the second sentence above. The message this sends to me is that he expects change between now and the first game. To prove this, it’s not like you hear him talking about what he is looking to do at left guard between now and the first game after the signing of Richie Incognito but he did mention it in regards to AJ McCarron.

Beane also sent a message to the agents of any players the Bills are still negotiating with in free agency that if they are looking for top dollar, Buffalo is not the place for them. Beane said:

“We’re very low on money. We can do some lower-level things but nothing that’s going to hit the ticker.”

 

Buffalo Bills: Subtle clues from Brandon Beane’s press conference

[Boca BIlls]

6 hours ago, Success said:

Due diligence.  More and more I feel like we won’t be trading into the top 5.

That would be the worst situation for the Bills.

[Buffalo Bills Detective]

30 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said:

 

Which thread BTW? This is helping me compensate for not taking my antidepressant today.

This thread.  Page 9.

[cba fan]

5 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

I just hope next years 1st isn't part of the equation. 12, 22, 53 and next years first is just too much IMO.

 

When was the last time 3 first round picks were part of a draft day trade up? Too lazy to look it up right now

RG III ??

3 1st if you include the pick exchanged in the draft of Griffin. PS: they did this trade before draft day so not fitting your question.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/washington-redskins-trade-for-st-louis-rams-nfl-draft-pick-robert-griffin-iii-washington-bound-030912

Edited March 19, 2018 by cba fan

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

I imagine everyone is calling everyone about everything right now. 

 

if they trade to #1 the kid better be a hall of famer and have a 0.45 second release.

 

we will be starting 4th rounders to UDFAs at RT and WR. 

 

And he will be starting after AJ McCarron is moved to IR. 

 

What week will they play the chargers?? 

Edited March 19, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Xwnyer]

no way in heck browns are moving out of 1 & 4 they get their QB and RB 

[Success]

45 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

That would be the worst situation for the Bills.

Having lots of picks in a deep and talented draft?

 

I’d have to disagree.

[Punching Bag]

7 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The Bills keep 56 and 96 along with next year’s 1. They will get their QB and maybe 2 other starters out of this class. 

 

It will be a bust if they do this. Bills need a lot more out of the draft.

7 hours ago, Nanker said:

Trade up to #1 and then pick a Cornerback.

 

Very Billsy move!

 

 

No a Nanker move of the worst kind.

7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

There would be a riot in Cleveland.

Riots are overrated.  The should shoot the rioters multiple times to ensure they do not riot again.

[Dr. Who]

11 minutes ago, Success said:

Having lots of picks in a deep and talented draft?

 

I’d have to disagree.

From what I have read, this is not a particularly deep and talented draft.  It actually makes sense to pay a premium for the most important position in sports, though I would not want to trade the 2019 1st because that will be a talented draft, especially at DL.

[Punching Bag]

7 hours ago, xRUSHx said:

That 12 pick could be moved up if Browns trade with Indy. 

Indy who traded their early first round pick?

6 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

not my business really and no real baring but you seem to be going right back down that negative trail. why presume the worst before anything even happens? are you going to be just as repetitive and negative with the "back up" rambling all the way up until draft day?

 

I know it was supposed to be rhetorical but the answer is an enthusiastic YES!

6 hours ago, Radar said:

I think our team has more holes in it apparently than many of our posters. 

I think you had unestimated the damage posting on Bills board does to posters.

[Punching Bag]

6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

If all my math is correct, The Jets gave up 725.88 in picks this year, plus whatever you value their 2nd at next year. Say you value it as the 6th pick of the 3rd round (1 round lower than this year for it being a year out), it's worth 69.82. 

 

That would be 795.7 draft points given up for a pick worth 514.33. So they overpaid by 281.37. 

 

For the Bills to match that offer, they'd have to give up 998 draft points for the #2 pick (which is valued at 717.17)

 

The "new math' formula rule was cited when Texans signed Denver QB to a 4 year deal.  How did the grade on the new math work?

 

I am assuming the Jets front office was just dumb.

6 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:

Easy to just say that but they still have a season to play this year. This is still a business and theres fans and players o  the team who actually want to build off last year and get better. Not take a year off and wait til next year.

Some cannot resist tanking.

5 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

They just got that stop gap QB who they are at least talking like they (at least in pressers) dont feel is a stop gap, while that may be a smokescreen, i think it at least allows them to find a developmental QB and not a surefire day 1 starter. They are perfect to draft a guy like Allen or Jackson and develop him.

 

It would be a better play if they had an offense staff who had experience developing QBs.