formerlyofCtown Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 6:12 PM, Chicken Boo said: I fear for the rookie QB that has to deal with this fan base. Young players need time. As long as no one sets fires in his front lawn it will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: And immediately after woods, goodwin, and Hogan left Buffalo they put up way better numbers. I'm not saying Matthews is a top-tier wide receiver but he had decent production with Philadelphia before coming to Buffalo. Hogan’s numbers this year were pretty similar to his time in Buffalo. Watkins were worse. Goodwin and Woods improved but Goodwin was a number 1 in a receiver friendly system. His numbers were going to go up. You can add Thompson and his $2.5M to the list as well. The point is that they all signed for more money than people projected. They weren’t held back. They made more money than anticipated PRIOR to going elsewhere. They weren’t held back. Matthews isn’t being held back either. He just isn’t that good. He was a function of volume when he had success. He WAS 4th on the Eagles depth chart when they dealt him. He is a JAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Hogan’s numbers this year were pretty similar to his time in Buffalo. Watkins were worse. Goodwin and Woods improved but Goodwin was a number 1 in a receiver friendly system. His numbers were going to go up. You can add Thompson and his $2.5M to the list as well. The point is that they all signed for more money than people projected. They weren’t held back. They made more money than anticipated PRIOR to going elsewhere. They weren’t held back. Matthews isn’t being held back either. He just isn’t that good. He was a function of volume when he had success. He WAS 4th on the Eagles depth chart when they dealt him. He is a JAG. Just as many here said before the season when he was acquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Just as many here said before the season when he was acquired. I thought he was an upgrade from Watkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I thought he was an upgrade from Watkins? Just like he's a deep threat. Just look at the 40 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 @Reed83HOF Too slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Oh great, now he goes to the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: @Reed83HOF Too slow. You buried it and didn't update your title...Just like the Gettleman thread this morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 7:55 PM, Jauronimo said: Matthews is a solid player but this team needs a true number 1 opposite of Benjamin. A player that can stretch the field and and play wideout. Zay is our slot guy. At this point the Bills should not count on Zay for anything. If he shows up in camp in shape and catching the football (for a Change) GREAT, it's like found money. We need to plan like he ain't gonna be there IMHO. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, Reed83HOF said: You buried it and didn't update your title...Just like the Gettleman thread this morning! He doesn't deserve a new thread. He's too slow just like you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 If he'll take a one year "show me" deal I think they should entertain it. Other than that, someone had to catch those balls in Philadelphia. He is a nice player on an established team from here out. A slot 3 is his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Man I like Troy Niklas. He will be a beast there. I'd love to have him here. Mathews not so much. I suppose he would replace Amendola? Unless they are going to wind up cutting Chris Hogan, which is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: At this point the Bills should not count on Zay for anything. If he shows up in camp in shape and catching the football (for a Change) GREAT, it's like found money. We need to plan like he ain't gonna be there IMHO. I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 No rush to sign him with the draft only 24 days away. Teams can always circle back afterward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No rush to sign him with the draft only 24 days away. Teams can always circle back afterward. Not just that, but everyone will wait until two weeks after the draft for the comp pick deadline to pass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Not just that, but everyone will wait until two weeks after the draft for the comp pick deadline to pass Excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 And Cardinals have made him an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, Limeaid said: And Cardinals have made him an offer. Probably not heading to ARI with Butler signing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/16/2018 at 6:01 PM, 3rdand12 said: we all ? knew we were in dire need of upgrading across the WR line up. When he mentioned his expectations to be a #1 and semi blaming the Eagles for his poor performance last year was enough for me. Best wishes ! Good Guy , just not good enough Chip Kelly dumped desean and maclin for him. The worst HC/GM was all in on Matthews.. so i don't really trust Matthews' resume, which is still pretty bad given that he was supposed to be the guy in Philly and then gets dumped to #4 and traded for pennies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Chip Kelly dumped desean and maclin for him. The worst HC/GM was all in on Matthews.. so i don't really trust Matthews' resume, which is still pretty bad given that he was supposed to be the guy in Philly and then gets dumped to #4 and traded for pennies Its a poor message to read. Keep in mind I was fairly hyped about him coming to Buffalo. As a #3, or slot receiver. Did not know Bills thought more of him than that. Still have concerns about how Buffalo Bills value WRs in general. I might consider it a weakness? and as Bills sit on their hands so far, I will furrow my brow. Maybe it was because of the O coordinator Bills thankfully moved on from. Trust the Daboll ?? 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: At this point the Bills should not count on Zay for anything. If he shows up in camp in shape and catching the football (for a Change) GREAT, it's like found money. We need to plan like he ain't gonna be there IMHO. I feel uncomfortable about what is NOT happening at WR so far. Will stay calm. You are correct about Jones. he is no money in the bank about turn a dividend. heck they let Deonte go. and brought that near useless kid the Panthers again released aarrghh. maybe they are drafting qb in the first and the next 3 picks are WRs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Still have concerns about how Buffalo Bills value WRs in general. I might consider it a weakness? Name a worse WR corps in the nfl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I only follow the Bills closely. I sure hope there were lesser able Teams at WR !? But i can assure i was no fan of Last years stable of horses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-GM-for-food Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I'm assuming the Bills haven't even offered him anything based on how long he's been on the market with no suitors, which is somewhat surprising. You'd think with the WRs on the roster at the moment, having Matthews is better than having nobody at all. Hopefully this all means they're confident they'll pick up a guy or two in the draft, and their confidence in Zay is obviously there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 Just now, Will-GM-for-food said: I'm assuming the Bills haven't even offered him anything based on how long he's been on the market with no suitors, which is somewhat surprising. You'd think with the WRs on the roster at the moment, having Matthews is better than having nobody at all. Hopefully this all means they're confident they'll pick up a guy or two in the draft, and their confidence in Zay is obviously there. He's rather redundant with what they already have on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Jordan Matthews visited the Patriots on Monday, but the receiver has an offer on the table from the Cardinals, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports. Matthews, 25, also recently visited Green Bay. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/02/report-cardinals-offer-jordan-matthews/ According to Arizona Sports 98.7 FM’s Mike Jurecki, he was seeking at least $5 million per year. https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/02/wr-jordan-matthews-sought-more-money-than-cardinals-wanted-to-pay/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 10 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Name a worse WR corps in the nfl The Redskins WRs don't look too good to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 If he is still a FA post draft and the Bills did make a trade that reduced pick amount I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing him back for a one year deal. Base of like $2-3 mil with escalators for performance. He is a good locker room guy and route runner. Two good things for a young QB to have around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 The WR core needs a total rebuild, not a easy task when Taylor was your QB. Good WR's will not come here in FA until we have a QB that can pass the football. We need to use the draft to upgrade our WR core, the Bears have the worst but we are right behind them. 13 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Name a worse WR corps in the nfl The Bears are easily worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The WR core needs a total rebuild, not a easy task when Taylor was your QB. Good WR's will not come here in FA until we have a QB that can pass the football. We need to use the draft to upgrade our WR core, the Bears have the worst but we are right behind them. The Bears are easily worse. The Bears have Allen Robinson and as of right now Cam Meredith. Both extremely solid WRs. We have a hobbled KB, Zay for Jesus and nothing else. C'mon maaaannn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The WR core needs a total rebuild, not a easy task when Taylor was your QB. Good WR's will not come here in FA until we have a QB that can pass the football. We need to use the draft to upgrade our WR core, the Bears have the worst but we are right behind them. The Bears are easily worse. I would take Allen Robinson, Kevin White, Taylor Gabriel, Cam Meredith, and Tanner Gentry over Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Rod Streater, and Brandon Reilly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: The Bears have Allen Robinson and as of right now Cam Meredith. Both extremely solid WRs. We have a hobbled KB, Zay for Jesus and nothing else. C'mon maaaannn I would rather have KB over Allen Robinson and I wouldn't put any value into Kevin White. Meredith is on the same level as Streater, both units suck but in my opinion the Bills are just a shade better. I live in Chicago so I have seen these WR's a lot. For me it comes down to who you like better KB or Robinson and I like KB more. I also think our unit has more upside but I think they both suck equally bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Not a #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I would rather have KB over Allen Robinson and I wouldn't put any value into Kevin White. Meredith is on the same level as Streater, both units suck but in my opinion the Bills are just a shade better. I live in Chicago so I have seen these WR's a lot. For me it comes down to who you like better KB or Robinson and I like KB more. I also think our unit has more upside but I think they both suck equally bad. Yea, I didn't say anything about White. He's useless. I do like Robinson much more. Meredith in my opinion is on a different level than Streater, of course I'm not a fan of his either. Basically ask this, would Meredith start on the Bills? I believe absolutely. Would Zay start for the Bears? Absolutely not. We, right now have a hobble, a huge question mark and hot garbage at WR. Edited April 3, 2018 by No Place To Hyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I would rather have KB over Allen Robinson and I wouldn't put any value into Kevin White. Meredith is on the same level as Streater, both units suck but in my opinion the Bills are just a shade better. I live in Chicago so I have seen these WR's a lot. For me it comes down to who you like better KB or Robinson and I like KB more. I also think our unit has more upside but I think they both suck equally bad. you would take KB over robinson???? Ill have some of that syzurp please! White is a bust Merideth is better than streater and GAbriel is better than both of them id take Chicago receivers any day over what buffalo has 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 19 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Name a worse WR corps in the nfl You're right. Right now they are eagles 2016 bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bing Bong Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 hours ago, YodaMan79 said: You're right. Right now they are eagles 2016 bad. Haha can't tell if you are agreeing with me, but I looked them up and they did look pretty bad. But agholor alone is a stud so I could see it as sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Haha can't tell if you are agreeing with me, but I looked them up and they did look pretty bad. But agholor alone is a stud so I could see it as sarcasm He wasn't in 2016. Dude couldn't catch a cold until this past season and the fans were ready to run him out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 On 2018-04-02 at 9:09 PM, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Name a worse WR corps in the nfl The Jets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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