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Just now, PIZ said:

 

Funny that if Mayfield was 2 or 3 inches taller, everyone would want him at the 1st pick.  Hard to imagine what 2 more inches will do for you.  Actually 6' 1" is tall for my neck of the woods.

 

No doubt he would be number one overall.

 

 

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2 hours ago, zonabb said:

If they fall for Allen, Beane is no better than anyone they've had at GM. He is Losman and Manuel... physical tools with major, uncorrectable deficiencies. 

 

 

Not to hijack the thread. But Losman was an idiot frat boy. Bad combination for a rookie QB. EJ was smart, worked hard, had all the tools, just couldn't put it together. 

5 minutes ago, PIZ said:

 

Funny that if Mayfield was 2 or 3 inches taller, everyone would want him at the 1st pick.  Hard to imagine what 2 more inches will do for you.  Actually 6' 1" is tall for my neck of the woods.

 

 

If I had 2 more inches I would be much less single....or maybe more single.....:lol:

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18 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Keenum played better than Cousins.

 

 

For a single season on a stacked team??

 

Moreover, describe better? Less yards, less TDs, less talent, etc...

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40 minutes ago, MOVALLEYRANDY said:

This made me laugh. He'll be the same player in training camp whether he's selected 2nd or 12th.

 

 

There's going to be a lot more talent around him if he's selected 12th vs 2nd.

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1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

You're comparing a week of practices and an exhibition game to 4 years of excellent game tape. It'll be a transition for Mayfield to adjust to playing under center but I don't see it as a huge issue. 

 

Meanwhile Josh Allen routinely misses routine passes in the flat. 

 

You’re putting words into my mouth.  I never said that Mayfield couldn’t adapt to a more pro-style offense, and I never said that the senior bowl is the end all, be all of NFL talent evaluation.  I merely offered the opinion, based on what I saw from both QB’s working from under center at the Senior Bowl, that Josh Allen is more prepared to run a pro-style offense.  I don’t think that many posters here would disagree with that assessment.

 

Right now, IMO, I think Rosen, Darnold, and Allen (in that order) are the most prepared to take over a NFL pro-style offense.

 

Don’t let your man-crush for Mayfield and his sassy facial hair cloud your judgement.

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3 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

No thanks to Allen.

 

Accuracy issues. Forget the "Strong arm"

 

JP Losman had a "Strong arm"

 

You need a lot more than arm strength 

 

EJ Manuel and JaMarcus Russell have strong arms

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54 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

For a single season on a stacked team??

 

Moreover, describe better? Less yards, less TDs, less talent, etc...

 

More wins , more playoffs, actually makes clutch plays under pressure.

 

 

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Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

More wins , more playoffs, actually makes clutch plays under pressure.

 

 

So Keenum put that team on his shoulders and won all those games by him self, interesting take.

 

 

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3 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

need to get Bradford then, IMO.

 

We need to get Bradford because we feel Allen needs zero time to develop and can start immediately, so don't worry about Bradford's availability?

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9 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I merely offered the opinion, based on what I saw from both QB’s working from under center at the Senior Bowl, that Josh Allen is more prepared to run a pro-style offense.  I don’t think that many posters here would disagree with that assessment.

 

I think this is incorrect. I think most posters view Allen as the most raw top QB prospect. 

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49 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

There's going to be a lot more talent around him if he's selected 12th vs 2nd.

Good point. I hope we don't get drunk with our riches in draft choices and overpay

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Just now, BillsFan17 said:

So Keenum put that team on his shoulders and won all those games by him self, interesting take.

 

 

 

And how many did Kirk out on his shoulders??

 

You act like Keenum was a scrub that was along for the ride, if he didn't play like he did then they wouldn't have won the games they did.

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1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

And how many did Kirk out on his shoulders??

 

You act like Keenum was a scrub that was along for the ride, if he didn't play like he did then they wouldn't have won the games they did.

No, at no point did I act like Keenum was a scrub. Nor did I say he was along for the ride.

 

However, you can't simply ignore the difference in roster and coaching staff.

 

Moreover the irony or arguing this while the team that knew Keenum best let him walk for his replacement.

 

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10 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

 

I think this is incorrect. I think most posters view Allen as the most raw top QB prospect. 

 

Most raw in terms of playing from under center and running a pro style offense?  In this regard, I’d put him ahead of Mayfield, Jackson, and Rudolph.  Easily.

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4 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

Rather have the other way around

 

Indeed. 

 

But Albright has been calling "Allen to the Bills" since January before the Sr Bowl I think, I'm not sure based on what intel.  He certainly didn't call Tyrod Taylor to the Browns, Kiser to Green Bay, or Cousins to the Vikings!

75YwXTCb_bigger.jpg Benjamin AllbrightVerified account @AllbrightNFL Jan 25

If I'm guessing on the QB carousel... Cle: Alex Smith or McCarron, and Darnold NYG: Rosen Den: Cousins, or Keenum + Baker Buf: Try to move up for Josh Allen Wash: Alex Smith + draft pick Ari: Osweiler + draft pick NYJ: In Josh Allen lottery Jax: Cousins + draft pick

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Most raw in terms of playing from under center and running a pro style offense?  In this regard, I’d put him ahead of Mayfield, Jackson, and Rudolph.  Easily.

 

I guess not in terms of running a pro-style offense in the dated sense of the term. Pro offenses are incorporating more and more "college" designs into their playbooks. That is what we have heard a lot about Daboll, too.

 

I think what I was trying to say is that Allen is by far more raw overall, not in the specific context of running a pro style offense, but also that (a) the idea of pro style vs college style offense is changing and (b) given that change, Mayfield might actually be less raw in terms of familiarity with the designs Daboll plans to run. 

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8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Most raw in terms of playing from under center and running a pro style offense?  In this regard, I’d put him ahead of Mayfield, Jackson, and Rudolph.  Easily.

 

Most raw in terms of his passing technique/accuracy IMO.  (Forget the Underwear Olympics)

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4 hours ago, RussellDopeland said:

If the Broncos want Mayfield, why the hell are they going to dump a Brink's Truck load of cash in Keenum's lap? Some of these rumours are convoluted drivel

Acquiring Keenum doesn’t preclude the Broncos from targeting a QB high in the draft. The rookie wage scale would pay what decent backups make, anyway.

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In terms of pro-readiness, I'd say they fall into the following categories:

 

Ready to go from Day 1:

Josh Rosen

Baker Mayfield (if it's a shotgun based offense)

 

Can play on Day 1, but would prefer time to develop them:

Sam Darnold

Josh Allen

Lamar Jackson

 

I'd like to work with all 3 of these guys on their mechanics before I'd ideally let them play in the regular season.

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Right now, any kind of news leaks or rumors are almost 100% coming from agents. The crew of local sportswriters in Buffalo have all said numerous times that this regime has everything on lockdown and aren't putting any info out there. If they do, it's likely misinformation anyway. 

 

Bills are obviously gonna do their homework on the entire QB group but they're the only ones who know who their top target is. 

 

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6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I don't know what would make the Bills think they have the coaching or structure in place to groom a QB like Josh Allen.  They don't even have a QB coach.

 

Technically they actually do. Just because has been a WR coach most of his career doesn't mean he can't coach QBs. Even if it doesn't look ideal

 

He's a football coach first And foremost.

 

ive seen WR coaches become great QB coaches and DB coaches

 

And DB coaches become Great WR coaches 

 

If McDermott wants him, he is obviously at least pretty good at his job

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I really know nothing about Josh Allen. Can someone tell me why people don't like/want him? 

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13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Smokescreen?

 

I think so too. My guess is the early rumors about the Bills loving Darnold are legit. They came from way back last summer from scouts scuttlebut IIRC. I think the Rosen and Allen rumors later on were deliberate on their part. I bet they still love Darnold

 

Darnold is also my first choice at this point - I know he's sloppy, but I just love the way he plays. He looks comfortable and born to play QB. He's got a spark and a command that are rare for a 20 year old. But I'm also intrigued by Mayfield. I kind of buy the Bills' focus on big guys, though, so I don't see them going that way. There was some video in the last day or two where the commentator was talking about that big guy preference on their part. He thought it pointed to Allen, which it could. But either way he was basing it on more than just Beane's prototype comment. He said that Dabol might share the Pats' bias for big guys - apparently the Pats wouldn't even scout QBs that didn't meet their height/weight/hands minimums. 

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