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Just now, apuszczalowski said:

Doubt Barkley drops past 2 and Rosen drops out of the top 5......

 

Cleveland is in a good position, if they are smart take Barkley first and then QB 4th. They walk out of the draft with possibly the drafts best player in Barkley and one of the top QBs. 

 

It wouldn't shock me at all with many good RBs available in the draft and Rosen's personality causing him to slip a bit.  We'll see. 

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21 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

You are putting too much stock in the Senior Bowl and not enough in actual games

 

No I’m not.  I’m merely comparing a small sample size of the two QB’s when asked to play in a pro style offense and take snaps under center.  Allen did well.  Mayfield did not do so well.  Mayfield is likely, similar to Watson in Houston, going to need an offense designed around his capabilities.

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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It wouldn't shock me at all with many good RBs available in the draft and Rosen's personality causing him to slip a bit.  We'll see. 

Sure there are good RBs available, but Barkley is being talked about as being one of the best to come out in a long time. Having a stud RB would really help the Browns offence.

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This can't be true McBeane aren't this dumb.

 

Plus NFL network saying Denver not going after a QB with Keenum on board.

 

 

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If we made all of these moves for Allen I'll be so upset.  But like everything else, I'll wait and see.

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1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

So, over/under for how many more years McBeane have left if the draft Allen?

 

As high as I was about all the other moves, this report has taken that away...hope it’s not true, but if they go take Allen they will be the laughingstock of the NFL.

Why would this report from a moron take anything away?  There have been very few, if any leaks from this FO.  How did this doofus supposedly get his scoop?  He didn't.  He is throwing darts.

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Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

This can't be true McBeane aren't this dumb.

 

Plus NFL network saying Denver not going after a QB with Keenum on board.

 

 

I find that hard to believe, Keenum didn't get a big deal, and isn't really someone you hedge your bets on.

 

Cousins was the only QB that would preclude a team from taking a QB.

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Trading up for Allen would be a huge step back after all the moves Beane has made.

 

We dont even have a QB coach.

 

Really hope its a smoke screen or an elaborate ruse.

 

Rosen Mayfield and Darnold are the only QBs i would trade into the top 5 for. 

 

If we stay at 12 we could roll with Roquon Smith at LB and take Rudolph or Jackson at 22.

 

Would prefer that vs any scenario of us with Allen at QB 

 

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1 minute ago, NewEraBills said:

If we made all of these moves for Allen I'll be so upset.  But like everything else, I'll wait and see.

 

THIS!

 

 

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I'm not a big game film guy, but why are soooo many against Allen?  Why do soooo many real NFL draft guys like him?  Am I wrong in saying that Brett Favre had a big arm in college, but was risky because he was not accurate and was a gun slinger?

 

I'm going to trust the professionals and if they choose Josh Allen, I'm going to trust they know what they are doing.  They have seen HOURS and HOURS of film on these guys and have spent HOURS interviewing the player, coaches, family, friends, teachers, etc.  They have TONS of scouts giving their opinions on these guys, and if they choose Josh Allen, I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

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This might have some truth to it unfortunately...

 

Everything that Beane has said he looks for physically in a QB, it's exactly Josh Allen.

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Just now, PIZ said:

I'm not a big game film guy, but why are soooo many against Allen?  Why do soooo many real NFL draft guys like him?  Am I wrong in saying that Brett Favre had a big arm in college, but was risky because he was not accurate and was a gun slinger?

 

If you watched him you would have seen how truly bad he was, his highlights are amazing but the rest of his play is horrendous.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, PIZ said:

I'm not a big game film guy, but why are soooo many against Allen?  Why do soooo many real NFL draft guys like him?  Am I wrong in saying that Brett Favre had a big arm in college, but was risky because he was not accurate and was a gun slinger?

 

I'm going to trust the professionals and if they choose Josh Allen, I'm going to trust they know what they are doing.  They have seen HOURS and HOURS of film on these guys and have spent HOURS interviewing the player, coaches, family, friends, teachers, etc.  They have TONS of scouts giving their opinions on these guys, and if they choose Josh Allen, I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

That’s not how this board operates.  Most folks were ready to run McBean out of town on a rail before the Bills had even played a single game this season.

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7 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

No I’m not.  I’m merely comparing a small sample size of the two QB’s when asked to play in a pro style offense and take snaps under center.  Allen did well.  Mayfield did not do so well.  Mayfield is likely, similar to Watson in Houston, going to need an offense designed around his capabilities.

 

You're comparing a week of practices and an exhibition game to 4 years of excellent game tape. It'll be a transition for Mayfield to adjust to playing under center but I don't see it as a huge issue. 

 

Meanwhile Josh Allen routinely misses routine passes in the flat. 

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6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Why would this report from a moron take anything away?  There have been very few, if any leaks from this FO.  How did this doofus supposedly get his scoop?  He didn't.  He is throwing darts.

The guys on WGR were saying he’s been right on some things but I hope you’re right.

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2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:

I would be fine with Allen at 12, but if we move into the top 4 and he's the reason I'm going to be very nervous.

This made me laugh. He'll be the same player in training camp whether he's selected 2nd or 12th.

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10 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

I find that hard to believe, Keenum didn't get a big deal, and isn't really someone you hedge your bets on.

 

Cousins was the only QB that would preclude a team from taking a QB.

 

Keenum played better than Cousins.

 

 

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I learned my lesson a long time ago, that I should trust the real NFL talent evaluators, and not go with my own fan based opinion.  When the choice was who is better, Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf, I thought it was an easy decision.  Manning looked slow and unimpressive to my untrained eye.  Ryan Leaf on the other hand, reminded me of Dan Marino for some reason.  I have never been so wrong before, so I'm going to just trust Beane and the front office and support their decision, as long as it isn't that midget Baker Mayfield (kidding).

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17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It wouldn't shock me at all with many good RBs available in the draft and Rosen's personality causing him to slip a bit.  We'll see. 

Agree. You never know. This QBitis can cause strange things to happen, especially for teams seeking a vet in free agency and striking out. May push QB's up and Barkley down a couple of slots.

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2 minutes ago, PIZ said:

I learned my lesson a long time ago, that I should trust the real NFL talent evaluators, and not go with my own fan based opinion.  When the choice was who is better, Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf, I thought it was an easy decision.  Manning looked slow and unimpressive to my untrained eye.  Ryan Leaf on the other hand, reminded me of Dan Marino for some reason.  I have never been so wrong before, so I'm going to just trust Beane and the front office and support their decision, as long as it isn't that midget Baker Mayfield (kidding).

 

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6 minutes ago, PIZ said:

I learned my lesson a long time ago, that I should trust the real NFL talent evaluators, and not go with my own fan based opinion.  When the choice was who is better, Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf, I thought it was an easy decision.  Manning looked slow and unimpressive to my untrained eye.  Ryan Leaf on the other hand, reminded me of Dan Marino for some reason.  I have never been so wrong before, so I'm going to just trust Beane and the front office and support their decision, as long as it isn't that midget Baker Mayfield (kidding).

 

Hey, they make mistakes too.  Your own example shows it.  Some NFL evaluators had high grades on Leaf and they were wrong.  It happens.  I hope it does not happen to us AGAIN (Losman, EJ).  We just can't afford that.  That's why, no to Allen, please.

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6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

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Funny that if Mayfield was 2 or 3 inches taller, everyone would want him at the 1st pick.  Hard to imagine what 2 more inches will do for you.  Actually 6' 1" is tall for my neck of the woods.

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1 minute ago, NewEraBills said:

 

Hey, they make mistakes too.  Your own example shows it.  Some NFL evaluators had high grades on Leaf and they were wrong.  It happens.  I hope it does not happen to us AGAIN (Losman, EJ).  We just can't afford that.  That's why, no to Allen, please.

If nothing else, you just CAN’T draft a guy under 60% completions...that’s a MAJOR red flag in the NFL...even us amateurs know that. :rolleyes:

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