NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: He's on the wall for football reasons, nothing more. And he should be off it for non football reason. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: And he should be off it for non football reason. Debatable. Does Coy wire go on the wall then? Brian Moorman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: He's on the wall for football reasons, nothing more. It's a privilege for a player to be up there. He lost the privilege. Sorry but his name up there is a black eye on the franchise and community. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Debatable. Does Coy wire go on the wall then? Brian Moorman ? Moorman belongs on the wall IMHO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: And he should be off it for non football reason. Son- “Daddy, what does that name say on the stadium wall?” Dad- “That’s OJ Simpson, son.” Son- “Isn’t that the guy that killed those people?” Dad- “Nah, son...that was only a hypothetical...he’s a football legend.” Edited March 12, 2018 by JaCrispy 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Debatable. Does Coy wire go on the wall then? Brian Moorman ? If the team wants to use them to represent the greatest bills- so be it. Wouldn’t be my choice but I wouldn’t be embarrassed seeing great men that are marginal players. Seeing a great player up there that is the same guy on tv talking about killing his wife— I’m down with that being a disqualifier for the football honor of being on the wall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, No Place To Hyde said: It's a privilege for a player to be up there. He lost the privilege. Sorry but his name up there is a black eye on the franchise and community. Just playing devils advocate here. I'm not sure this interview changes anything. With its " hypotheticals " and all. I mean his book has been out forever. Was there anyone who believed this guy didn't do it before today? This is hardly a revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Maybe he was just trolling Fred Goldman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Does this mean that he is going to bring to a close his relentless search for the true killers? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Just playing devils advocate here. I'm not sure this interview changes anything. With its " hypotheticals " and all. I mean his book has been out forever. Was there anyone who believed this guy didn't do it before today? This is hardly a revelation. It was never published Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Just playing devils advocate here. I'm not sure this interview changes anything. With its " hypotheticals " and all. I mean his book has been out forever. Was there anyone who believed this guy didn't do it before today? This is hardly a revelation. To be fair, my stance hasn’t changed in quite some time. i could kind of buy the not guilty verdict keeping him up there but once he started in on the “hypothetical” stuff i no longer buy the devils advocate argument. Even if you hang your hat on the “he wasn’t convicted” argument he sure as hell is doing this interview and wrote that book and deserves to be taken down. Edited March 12, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: It was never published Oops my bad. However, most everyone heard about it and found it ridiculous. " If I did it " . Of course he did. Pretty much everyone but deniers knew he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Oops my bad. However, most everyone heard about it and found it ridiculous. " If I did it " . Of course he did. Pretty much everyone but deniers knew he did. So that's further reason to keep his name up on the wall? Because we've known all along? Interesting argument. My guess is the Bills have been hiding behind the not guilty verdict in order to not broach the topic of taking it down. He just confessed. that's why this is a big deal Edited March 12, 2018 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It was never published Yes it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: To be fair, my stance hasn’t changed in quite some time. i could kind of buy the not guilty verdict keeping him up there but once he started in on the “hypothetical” stuff i no longer buy the devils advocate argument. Even if you hang your hat on the “he wasn’t convicted” argument he sure as hell is doing this interview and released that book and deserves to be taken down. Fair enough. I think virtually everyone knew the guy committed the crime, found guilty or not. I don't think anything has changed here. You'd be hard pressed to find a reasonable person that didn't think OJ did it before today. We will see what happens, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 OJ can just confessed that he did it. They can’t send him to jail for it. They said he already innocent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So that's further reason to keep his name up on the wall? Because we've known all along? Interesting argument. My guess is the Bills have been hiding behind the not guilty verdict in order to not broach the topic of taking it down. He just confessed. that's why this is a big deal It means everyone knew and it was still there. I'm not making predictions here. Take it down, pretend OJ never happened . Never existed. Take him out of the HOF too. Erase the history books. Edit: I doubt the Bills have been " hiding behind" anything. Everyone on earth knew the man committed murder , but was found not guilty in a court of law. Edited March 12, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Something tells me he wanted to confess just to get it off his conscience He did it for that tv check and its residuals. Cmon bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, vincec said: Does this mean that he is going to bring to a close his relentless search for the true killers? He searched a lot of the golf courses so he must have found some kind of clue. 2 minutes ago, Joaquin1119 said: OJ can just confessed that he did it. They can’t send him to jail for it. They said he already innocent Did you go to law school? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Fair enough. I think virtually everyone knew the guy committed the crime, found guilty or not. I don't think anything has changed here. You'd be hard pressed to find a reasonable person that didn't think OJ did it before today. We will see what happens, if anything. Essentially, I think this should/could be akin to the ray rice elevator video for the buffalo community. it shouldn’t take that but... sometimes it makes it real. It makes it much harder to point at the highlight reel when you have this to watch too. It gets real damn hard to say “yea he probably did it but wasn’t convicted” when you watch the man describe grabbing the knife on tv Edited March 12, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It means everyone knew and it was still there. I'm not making predictions here. Take it down, pretend OJ never happened . Never existed. Take him out of the HOF too. Erase the history books. Edit: I doubt the Bills have been " hiding behind" anything. Everyone on earth knew the man committed murder , but was found not guilty in a court of law. Yes. That was my point. 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He searched a lot of the golf courses so he must have found some kind of clue. Did you go to law school? Double jeopardy, bruv... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Oops my bad. However, most everyone heard about it and found it ridiculous. " If I did it " . Of course he did. Pretty much everyone but deniers knew he did. The book was published you can buy it from wal mart right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Frankly, I hope this is what finally gets him off the wall. This is terrible. It blows my mind we even have debate about it. He's on the wall for his football accomplishments, which have nothing to do with him being a murderer. He's a top 3 all-time Buffalo Bill, whether you think he's a nice guy or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Zebrastripes said: The book was published you can buy it from wal mart right now. Oops , double bad. Never knew if it was or not. Just assumed it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Oops , double bad. Never knew if it was or not. Just assumed it was You were right just wanted to let you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, Fadingpain said: He's on the wall for his football accomplishments, which have nothing to do with him being a murderer. He's a top 3 all-time Buffalo Bill, whether you think he's a nice guy or not. Oh, you don’t say? Again, I don’t care. Truly, i can’t fathom why fans grasp at this argument. Do you lose something by taking him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Janine Talley @J9Talley 15s15 seconds ago Just catching the end of #DidOJConfess, and I’m disgusted with how O.J. is making this massacre about himself, considering he claims he didn’t do it. He doesn’t care how much Nicole loved him; he’s not capable of understanding that feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Yes. That was my point. Double jeopardy, bruv... And that hasn't changed. He could have come out and said " I did it " afterward. Doesn't matter . Everyone knew. Probably even the jurors themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: Oh, you don’t say? Again, I don’t care. Truly, i can’t fathom why fans grasp at this argument. Do you lose something by taking him down? What makes your opinion on this matter so high and mighty and ones against yours wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Double jeopardy, bruv... I just assumed everybody knew that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 He’s the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He searched a lot of the golf courses so he must have found some kind of clue. Did you go to law school? The prosecution has one chance to charge and prosecute someone for a crime. If you are found not guilty, then the state or the federal government cannot charge you again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Janine Talley @J9Talley 15s15 seconds ago Just catching the end of #DidOJConfess, and I’m disgusted with how O.J. is making this massacre about himself, considering he claims he didn’t do it. He doesn’t care how much Nicole loved him; he’s not capable of understanding that feeling. That's what murderers do. You rarely find one that says "I'm an !@#$," there's always some sort of "it was an accident/they had it coming - I'm the real victim here!" justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzReaper Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Hypothetical.... Pfft what a turd. They made sure to get him in Nevada for that armed robbery deal though. I was surprised they let him out early on that bid. Some guys have all the luck I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 He looks particularly stabby in this interview. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Joaquin1119 said: The prosecution has one chance to charge and prosecute someone for a crime. If you are found not guilty, then the state or the federal government cannot charge you again Not entirely true. The federal government could try OJ for violating Nicole's civil rights by killing her, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 It wouldn't be controversial to take his name down anymore. Black community realizes OJ used them to get away with murder. This newly released interview could be impetus to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Oh, you don’t say? Again, I don’t care. Truly, i can’t fathom why fans grasp at this argument. Do you lose something by taking him down? I'm not arguing . Just a discussion. I don't care if it's up there or not. The wall is " what it is" to use a tired expression. The best Bills ever... on the football field. Some maybe off it as well, but not all. Definitely on it though. Nothing more. It's not a moral judgement on these players. If the Bills want it taken down they'll do so. Seems silly to pretend he never existed as some sort of claim to moral superiority , but we will see. Just now, BuffaloRebound said: It wouldn't be controversial to take his name down anymore. Black community realizes OJ used them to get away with murder. This newly released interview could be impetus to do it. And it would have been before this interview aired? Because of black / white issues? Nonsense. No one in their right mind believed OJ didn't do it before this " hypothetical " interview stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzReaper Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Not entirely true. The federal government could try OJ for violating Nicole's civil rights by killing her, for example. Really? Hmm I doubt that charge carries the maximum punishment murder does though. Death by hot oil maybe idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I'm not arguing . Just a discussion. I don't care if it's up there or not. The wall is " what it is" to use a tired expression. The best Bills ever... on the football field. Some maybe off it as well, but not all. Definitely on it though. Nothing more. It's not a moral judgement on these players. If the Bills want it taken down they'll do so. Seems silly to pretend he never existed as some sort of claim to moral superiority , but we will see. If we are just discussing, what if OJ had confessed to throwing games while betting on opponents? Does his name stay up still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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