BuffaloRush Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Good for him. For whatever reason he could not stay healthy in Buffalo. Maybe it’s the placement of some of Tyrod’s passes...regardless I don’t fault the Bills for moving on from him. Sometimes you just need a change of scenery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Bad for the Bills for not insisting on a football commitment while we had him under contract. Injuries like concussions and broken ribs aren't related to 'commitment' or a perceived lack thereof... https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/marquise-goodwin-player-injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: He is fundamentally a track guy who dabbles in football. As you say, F him. He showed promise as a football guy once he decided to make a full commitment to it. Of course that was on his way out of Buffalo and now with another team. 1 hour ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I guess somebody had to say it I'll be that guy. I hate it when players leave and then say or demonstrate that they didn't give it their all when they were in Buffalo. 24 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: There is that whole QB things as well, just like Robert Woods looked good this year The QB doesn't affect whether he devotes himself 100% to his profession, and instead spends way more time than he should pursuing a hobby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Doc said: He showed promise as a football guy once he decided to make a full commitment to it. Of course that was on his way out of Buffalo and now with another team. I'll be that guy. I hate it when players leave and then say or demonstrate that they didn't give it their all when they were in Buffalo. The QB doesn't affect whether he devotes himself 100% to his profession, and instead spends way more time than he should pursuing a hobby. I think he showed promise going back to his rookie year. He stretched defenses and even made EJ look good at times in doing so. I understand the frustration with his co-dedication to his track and field training, but I can't say that was simply a "hobby" for him. He was chasing a legitimate Olympic dream and I'm glad he had the full backing of the organization in that pursuit. We also could have tried to re-sign him but McDermott saw him as too much of an injury risk. Can't blame him for that, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 37 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Good for him. For whatever reason he could not stay healthy in Buffalo. Maybe it’s the placement of some of Tyrod’s passes...regardless I don’t fault the Bills for moving on from him. Sometimes you just need a change of scenery The pass I suspect you're thinking of was thrown by EJ Manuel. There isn't a player in the league who wouldn't have been injured on that play given the ball placement and the angle of the defender making the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 that's a fair deal for Goody. Sets him up for life, kind of protects the Niners when he gets hurt, which is likely for all WR's especially him. Wait until Garrapolo doesn't pan out, he's the next Matt Cassel and that salary is gonna kill the Niners structure. Dude had one good game, the rest average at best, and one awful one (bears). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 If the Bills had had a qb for the past several years Goodwin would still be a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, jmc12290 said: One overpaid player is not a market made. Actually it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'm struggling to think of a Bills receiver since Andre Reed that the fans have actually liked. Moulds? Price? We hated Goodwin, Sammy, Hogan, and Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: There is that whole QB things as well, just like Robert Woods looked good this year Except Woods finished his season with less than 800 yards, just like here. He had a couple strong games and people seem to think he had some huge year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: I'm struggling to think of a Bills receiver since Andre Reed that the fans have actually liked. Moulds? Price? We hated Goodwin, Sammy, Hogan, and Evans. We loved David Nelson because he was an UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 mil per year for a WR w 56 catches and 2 TDs? Add in the injury history and that's an outrageous contract. Stupid. I don't have a real opinion on Marquis as a guy to root for. He was never all in with us and too focused on other stuff. 6 mil per year for a WR w 56 catches and 2 TDs? Add in the injury history and that's an outrageous contract. Stupid. I don't have a real opinion on Marquis as a guy to root for. He was never all in with us and too focused on other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I'm struggling to think of a Bills receiver since Andre Reed that the fans have actually liked. Moulds? Price? We hated Goodwin, Sammy, Hogan, and Evans. Stevie had some lovers and some haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just now, thebandit27 said: We loved David Nelson because he was an UDFA. That's a good one. I'm starting to wonder if Buffalo sports fans resent well-paid athletes... I'll leave it at that for now but I suspect there's more to it. 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: Stevie had some lovers and some haters. Right - Stevie was loved until he got paid (and dropped that bomb against Pittsburgh). Once it's time to pay them, the fans turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Actually it does Then Goodwin was underpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: That's a good one. I'm starting to wonder if Buffalo sports fans resent well-paid athletes... I'll leave it at that for now but I suspect there's more to it. I'm sure that all fan bases do to an extent. I will say, however, that I've noticed that Buffalo sports fans naturally gravitate toward the bottom-of-the-roster guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Except Woods finished his season with less than 800 yards, just like here. He had a couple strong games and people seem to think he had some huge year. Guy who works for me loves Woods, all I heard all season is what an amazing WR he is...I didn't even pay attention to his stats this year TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: That's a good one. I'm starting to wonder if Buffalo sports fans resent well-paid athletes... I'll leave it at that for now but I suspect there's more to it. Right - Stevie was loved until he got paid (and dropped that bomb against Pittsburgh). Once it's time to pay them, the fans turn. Mario got paid and everyone loved him until he quit. Jack Eichel still get the love? I see the point you're trying to make but you can't dismiss the amount of fail coming from OBD in recent years. I loved Dareus until he continually made a joke of himself. I was happy they drafted and paid him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Hopkins just got $16M AAV and Alshon just got $13M AAV. No one can seriously tell me that Watkins is gonna fall between the two of them on a long term deal. Edited March 8, 2018 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: If the Bills had had a qb for the past several years Goodwin would still be a Bill. Fallacy. Tyrod is limited but how do you explain Watkins putting up nearly 80 ypg with Tyrod in 2015? Or Deonte Thompson landing back with Tyrod and suddenly, just a few days later, looking like an NFL WR for the first time in his career and having by far his best season? Good receivers put up good numbers if the QB fits their style. Sometimes they actually get MORE opportunities with a limited passer than when the QB is excellent and distributes the ball better. See the numbers of Josh Gordon in his big year or Nuke Hopkins basically every year with the bums he's played with at QB. Tyrod fit Marquise style..........Goodwin just wasn't good at being an NFL WR yet. He showed up to TC in August 2016 having not run routes or caught passes in almost a year.........he even refused to play catch in shorts during OTA's. He showed up 15 pounds lighter than his football weight and had to battle to get thru the season and prove he could stay healthy so he didn't not only blow his Olympic dream but also kill his stated football goal of "a second contract". After 2 years on the shelf training for the Olympics 2016 was a virtual rookie season for him. Had he stayed in 2017 he would have likely had the same success with Tyrod.........but it's moot because he couldn't be trusted by the Bills at that point. Edited March 8, 2018 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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