TRADE TYROD/ GET BRADFORD/ DRAFT FUTURE

[YoloinOhio]

I actually prefer the rookie start Day 1, so whatever vet they sign I’m ok with being a backup with starting experience. If they can start out of the gate then fine, but if I have one of my top 3 - darnold, Mayfield, Rosen - then I want them out there right away. I realize that’s not a popular opinion. That’s why I’m ok with Bradford. How long will he available before he gets hurt? Maybe he isn’t even needed. He’s there as a safety valve. Jmo. 

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

If a team trades any draft pick for Tyrod Taylor I will eat my shoe. He will need to be released, a team will then sign him for 5 or 6 mil per year.

 

Didn't we trade Matt Cassell for a 6th rounder? Tyrod has trade value. I would hope for a 3rd but more realistically expect a 4th.

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Didn't we trade Matt Cassell for a 6th rounder? Tyrod has trade value. I would hope for a 3rd but more realistically expect a 4th.

Yes and Cardale for a 7th. I think the sticking point is his contract, however. That’s why I think we could get a pick from the Browns because they desperately need a vet QB at this point and have a surplus of picks and cap space. but the options are limited. 

Edited February 9, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[JPP]

2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

At least with Bradford you have a QB that can put up passing numbers and win games. Yea he has a history of being injured but at least their is a chance. With Taylor their is no chance, after watching the offensive passing numbers put up in the playoffs and the Super Bowl their is no way Taylor would even have a chance in a game like that.

Obessed much arent we??  Who the hell is talking about Taylor??  I am speaking specifically about the glassman's endurance...he would be lucky to play 3 maybe 4 games before some DL sidelines him....try hard for foles or get one of Minni's QB's (except for bradford of course)....

Edited February 9, 2018 by JPP

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

On 1/31/2018 at 5:49 AM, DKBills25 said:

Die hard fan,

just made this account 

But I think this would be the best move for us 

I think cousins will demand too much money and even thou he can throw well I don’t think he would get us in the right direction 

we need to draft our future (mayfield,Jackson) and sigh Bradford to help mold the rook.

basically what the chiefs did. 

Bradford IMO we can get cheap and will give us the best chance to win 

I would also love to see us maybe trade for a young starter (most likely not gonna happen) but maybe Luck,Dalton or Winston

Amen brother, I agree with all of this accept that Bradford will be cheap, hasn't been cheap anywhere he's played plus there is a dozen or so teams vying for a QB of his caliber, we would be lucky to get him.

[SoTier]

On 1/31/2018 at 7:25 AM, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

With Taylor you know there is no chance at a Super Bowl.

 

With Bradford if he can stay healthy you have a chance at a Super Bowl.

 

I would choose Bradford and the chance.

 

How many teams has Bradford been healthy enough to take to even a winning season?   Not many because he's missed all/most of 4 seasons in his 8 year pro career.  Bradford can not stay on the field, which is exactly why Case Keenum became the Vikings' starter.  When he's on the field, he's basically a game manager type QB in the same mold as Tyrod Taylor ... or Alex Smith prior to 2017.   He's one of those first round QBs who keeps getting starting jobs because he hasn't totally crashed and burned ... because he's always hurt.

[GunnerBill]

37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yes and Cardale for a 7th. I think the sticking point is his contract, however. That’s why I think we could get a pick from the Browns because they desperately need a vet QB at this point and have a surplus of picks and cap space. but the options are limited. 

 

Tyrod to Cleveland makes too much sense not to happen - they have no viable bridge vet, they have loads of cap room and they NEED to win games next year (for Hue at least).  I think his "value" is probably a 5th rounder but I'm hoping with all Cleveland's picks you might get one of their 4ths? 

[PromoTheRobot]

On 31/01/2018 at 5:49 AM, DKBills25 said:

Die hard fan,

just made this account 

But I think this would be the best move for us 

I think cousins will demand too much money and even thou he can throw well I don’t think he would get us in the right direction 

we need to draft our future (mayfield,Jackson) and sigh Bradford to help mold the rook.

basically what the chiefs did. 

Bradford IMO we can get cheap and will give us the best chance to win 

I would also love to see us maybe trade for a young starter (most likely not gonna happen) but maybe Luck,Dalton or Winston

 

Welcome to TBD. Please don't use caps like that.

[Steptide]

Why not just cut Tyrod now? What are the bills waiting for? 

[SinatraSinger]

These threads make me laugh.  I find it hard to believe that anyone even thinks that Tyrod has trade value.  Heck someone up above said a 3rd rounder but thinks a 4th is more realilistic (WHAT?).

 

Tyrod has been the QB of a passing offense for 3 years now that has gone from the 29th in 2015, to the 30th in 2016 to the 31st in 2017.   Oh sure he has a decent QB rating, high completion percentage and low int rate and many of you that support Tyrod had your arguments on those things but the GM's in the NFL look for so much more than that.  They would rather a QB throw 30TD's and 12 INTS and pass for 3800 yards then throw 14TD's 4 INTs and only 2800 yards.  They want a QB that can move the ball and keep the offense on the field, not lead the league in 3 and outs.

 

But the real reason I laugh is that for some reason people think that the Bills haven't tried to trade him.  Heck I think this front office has proven that they will trade anyone if they think it improves the team.  So I am very sure that they are attempting to trade Tyrod.  They know that they will have to cut him.  He is not worth the roster bonus or salary.  They would probably take a ham sandwich for him at this point.  BUT GUESS WHAT, nobody wants him.

 

I don't blame them, I don't want him either.

[Elite Poster]

Bradford = Tyrod

[nucci]

36 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

Amen brother, I agree with all of this accept that Bradford will be cheap, hasn't been cheap anywhere he's played plus there is a dozen or so teams vying for a QB of his caliber, we would be lucky to get him.

Bradford?

[JPP]

2 hours ago, ILoveEndingTheSeasonInNov said:

Signing Bradford would be a "buy the rookie a little time" move,  for those struggling to understand this.  

Buy the rookie a little time.....little time being only a few games into the new season.....bradford will not make it a quarter way through the season....guy can hardly run with those knees especially when our line collapes as usual....

[Yav]

So, Taylor stinks and we need an upgrade yet he's worth a trade? 

 

I'm not following this logic at all, if Taylor isn't good then what makes anyone think you can trade him?

If he's good enough to trade then he's good enough to keep. 

 

The Bills will just cut him and then they will end up with a rookie who is 50/50 at best at being a good QB or they will find a guy like Bradford who will get hurt by the carpet at practice (I don't think they got rid of that thing yet) and then they will have  to scramble to find a replacement. 

 

I'll just sit back and watch.

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Yav said:

So, Taylor stinks and we need an upgrade yet he's worth a trade? 

 

I'm not following this logic at all, if Taylor isn't good then what makes anyone think you can trade him?

If he's good enough to trade then he's good enough to keep. 

 

The Bills will just cut him and then they will end up with a rookie who is 50/50 at best at being a good QB or they will find a guy like Bradford who will get hurt by the carpet at practice (I don't think they got rid of that thing yet) and then they will have  to scramble to find a replacement. 

 

I'll just sit back and watch.

I think a team that needs a vet backup may trade for him. But it would need to be a team that he’s willing to restructure for, or one that literally has to spend money to get to the cap floor like Cleveland or SF. The Bills can’t keep him as a vet backup because he makes too much and said he won’t restructure, and they need to just rip the band aid off and move on anyway. Two different situations is why a trade could be made with a limited number of teams and he wouldn’t be good enough to stay here (as a starter).

 

for a team like Cleveland that has won one game in two years, has no vet QB on the roster with any experience, and needs to crawl before they can walk, which would consider a 5 win season as huge progress , may see value in him even as a bridge starter. For a team like the Bills that is a playoff team and wants to actually progress in the playoffs as a next step, he does not have value as a bridge starter. 

Edited February 9, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[26CornerBlitz]

2 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

Bradford = Tyrod

 

Bradford is far more talented as a pocket passer than Taylor, but his problem has always been the inability to stay on the field due to knee injuries.  Your assessment is way off. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

47 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Bradford is far more talented as a pocket passer than Taylor, but his problem has always been the inability to stay on the field due to knee injuries.  Your assessment is way off. 

Bradford has only started 80 of a potential 128 games since he came into the league, that's 62.5% or 10 games played/6 missed on average. So yeah you need a second QB for 6 games minimum. Peterman time!

 

That's 3 missed seasons out of 8.

Edited February 9, 2018 by horned dogs

[26CornerBlitz]

4 minutes ago, horned dogs said:

Bradford has only started 80 of a potential 128 games since he came into the league, that's 62.5% or 10 games played/6 missed on average. So yeah you need a second QB for 6 games minimum. Peterman time!

 

That's 3 missed seasons out of 8.

 

[billsredneck1]

On 1/31/2018 at 8:57 AM, BillsFan3434 said:

I would love Bradford.  He does have some issues staying on the field, but that's why we draft for our future QB hopefully in the near future, even if it does end up being Peterman.  

I think Bradford is a great pure pocket passer.  He makes a lot, if not all of the throws that Tyrod either doesn't make or refuses to try.  He has a great touch pass and great anticipation.  He throws receivers open.  The only thing is we obviously don't have the receiving corps that the Vikings have, obviously.  It almost angers me matching these Vikings highlights.  Diggs, Thielen, Rudolph, Patterson when he was there.  They all find the soft spots in coverage, make contested catches, catch with their hands, and come back to the football on comeback routes.  Something our receivers basically never do, which was the reason for Peterman's interception in the playoff game.  I think Bradford would be a wise investment on a 3-5 year contract.

finally this gets mentioned.  i look at peterman with a very similar skill set as bradford.

i'd rather roll with nate and a rook vs. paying 20mil. to any oftinjured or backup qb. ...and if we can't pry foles away from philly or land mc carron, i'd be more inclined to go with nate.

Edited February 9, 2018 by billsredneck1

[Tatonka68]

Cut Taylor then sign Sam Bradford + draft Mason Rudolph + Nathan Petersen + Undrafted QB

Edited February 9, 2018 by Tatonka68