MAJBobby Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) This team has a history of making bad and player friendly contracts (Williams and Darues). I thought maybe they turned to corner with the way TT contracts have been handled. However, the Eric Wood extension comes. As much as I like Wood I didnt like the extension because of his age and fit with the offense type we were trying to build last year. However with his neck and retirement more issues come to mind. 1. How is a degenerative issue missed in the last couple exit physicals? (Doubt it was). 2. So if it wasnt how are you going to give guarantees in out years of a contract when essentially the players health at that point is year to year? Edited January 29, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Good teams (Pats) don't make this mistake. Edited January 29, 2018 by PIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) I think you're making an assumption here. No one knows what past exit physicals revealed or didn't reveal. It's just as likely that Wood had no pain and no complaints regarding his neck in prior years. The Bills Doctors aren't going to do a complete body scan and MRI if the guy said he felt fine. So then this year, maybe he says, "Ya know Doc, my neck has been sore for weeks" and they do an MRI and discover the condition. So they negotiate a contract extension based on that.That scenario is just as likely. Your contract terms are valid though. The Bills have often made head scratching deals. Edited January 29, 2018 by RobH063 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, PIP said: Good teams (Pats) don't make this mistake. Was the team supposed to know in advance that he was going to sustain a career ending neck injury? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, PIP said: Good teams (Pats) don't make this mistake. You're right. Remember when we drafted that Aaron Hernandez guy? When will we ever make Patriot like decisions? 2 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Was the team supposed to know in advance that he was going to sustain a career ending neck injury? i believe wood said something like it was a long term degenerative issue. I thought guys got complete physicals before big contracts anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PIP said: Good teams (Pats) don't make this mistake. Donald jones got a 3 year contract with pats and was let go and retired after a couple months due to kidney issues. Wasn't huge guaranteed money or anything but it happens. Also it's possible to miss stuff or have issues come up inbetween exams especially in contact sports. (I'm at my spinal dr now I'll ask about it) Edited January 29, 2018 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 long term degenerative conditions doesn't mean the guy and the Bills new about it before now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: i believe wood said something like it was a long term degenerative issue. I thought guys got complete physicals before big contracts anyways? The problem wasn't detected until his season ending physical this season and that's after playing every offensive snap. Edited January 29, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, PIP said: Good teams (Pats) don't make this mistake. False info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The problem wasn't detected until his season ending physical this season and that's after playing every offensive snap. let's find what wood said because it seemed to be it had been a long term issue that had been going on before this season. if so it's very risky to give such a deal to a guy who's career could be over quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: This team has a history of making bad and player friendly contracts (Williams and Darues). I thought maybe they turned to corner with the way TT contracts have been handled. However, the Eric Wood extension comes. As much as I like Wood I didnt like the extension because of his age and fit with the offense type we were trying to build last year. However with his neck and retirement more issues come to mind. 1. How is a degenerative issue missed in the last couple exit physicals? (Doubt it was). 2. So if it wasnt how are you going to give guarantees in out years of a contract when essentially the players health at that point is year to year? I think there is a lot more to the story then just a contract extension. We don't know what goes on behind the doors at OBD as much as we think we do. Wouldn't shock me if the neck was degenerative that Wood was pondering retirement last off season and this was a way to lure him back for another season. I think that would explain a bit why Groy was brought back and why they were hesitant to let him play. In retrospect, it does seem like they were very careful with the backup center position...which would tell me there was concern if Wood could finish the season. All in all, I believe injury guarantees are fairly standard in the NFL. It's just unfortunate that it all came to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: This team has a history of making bad and player friendly contracts (Williams and Darues). I thought maybe they turned to corner with the way TT contracts have been handled. However, the Eric Wood extension comes. As much as I like Wood I didnt like the extension because of his age and fit with the offense type we were trying to build last year. However with his neck and retirement more issues come to mind. 1. How is a degenerative issue missed in the last couple exit physicals? (Doubt it was). 2. So if it wasnt how are you going to give guarantees in out years of a contract when essentially the players health at that point is year to year? Terry isn’t cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: let's find what wood said because it seemed to be it had been a long term issue that had been going on before this season. if so it's very risky to give such a deal to a guy who's career could be over quick. He already made a statement regarding the injury and when it was diagnosed. Edited January 29, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Wow, only a Bills fan would spin this into something more. Dude's career just ended and yet here we are with a thread crying about his contract. SMH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 There was no good reason to extend his contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 You went full twatwaffle. Never go full twatwaffle. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, PIP said: Good teams (Pats) don't make this mistake. How much did they pay Gilmore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: i believe wood said something like it was a long term degenerative issue. I thought guys got complete physicals before big contracts anyways? We might learn more at today's pressers. I'm not sure what guys get before big contracts, but I have the impression that maybe the Bills have not been at the forefront of rigorous medical evaluation. I know that X-rays and MRIs aren't always predictive of performance - I have arthritis in both knees but I'm reasonably active and so far don't bother me. But it seems they're a starting point to protect a $10M investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Yav said: Wow, only a Bills fan would spin this into something more. Dude's career just ended and yet here we are with a thread crying about his contract. SMH. Yep, hindsight is always 20-20 but to make the right decisions as they come due is an entirely different proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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