BillnutinHouston Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, ricojes said: "We look at it from a holistic perspective," Brandon said. "We hired Michael to oversee all of our business analytics as well. He is a crucial part of the mix between marketing and content and the decisions we make in all platforms of our business." I wonder what the football people at OBD are thinking when they hear Brandon refer to football as "content". That has to be irritating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I assume a lot of people do subscribe, though. So why not discuss the article? Fair enough, you can rip on me for it, but the vast majority of boards I'm on don't allow this for the simple reason that shills for paid sites come in and start topics linking to paid articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Let's hire one of those guys that do the red light, yellow light, green light away from the Eagles. I think next year he can handle all three lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Fair enough, you can rip on me for it, but the vast majority of boards I'm on don't allow this for the simple reason that shills for paid sites come in and start topics linking to paid articles. Yeah the original poster joined 14 years ago so that he could shill for the Buffalo News at this very moment in time. ? You have added nothing to this conversation with your complaints. Go complain to the Buffalo news if you have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, SDS said: Yeah the original poster joined 14 years ago so that he could shill for the Buffalo News at this very moment in time. ? You have added nothing to this conversation with your complaints. Go complain to the Buffalo news if you have an issue. Bro that's not what I said. I said it was their reasoning, not mine. I'm not gonna die on this hill, it's your board, do what you want. FTR I'm not one of the people constantly complaining about the TBN paywall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Bro that's not what I said. I said it was their reasoning, not mine. I'm not gonna die on this hill, it's your board, do what you want. FTR I'm not one of the people constantly complaining about the TBN paywall. i added key points from the article and changed the title as to not waste too much of the non-BN-subscribers time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, ricojes said: i added key points from the article and changed the title as to not waste too much of the non-BN-subscribers time.... Appreciate it. Sorry for coming off like a jagoff, you're well within your rights to post whatever you want and it's not my place to be a prick about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 People! Simply register on the site. I registered months ago and can read everything, but not once has the News asked me for one thin dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 This is fantastic. So basically Beane is getting rid of the Bills analytics department because it really sounds they were weren’t offering much to the football side of things. I remember back in 2013 when the Bills canned Chan Gailey. Russ Brandon called a press conference on New Years Day to announce he was given the title of President - essentially taking the reigns from Ralph officially. He played to the fan base by talking about how it was a era and that the “new” Bills were going to be analytics driven. He said the brand was tarnished and announced his plans to start the analytics department for football operations. At the time this was the hot trend in the NFL, so fans were pumped. Russ then announced the hiring of the director, Michael Lyons, who I believe worked at Kodak. But then he hired Doug Marrone, who while a competent coach, was not really one to use data to make decisions on the field. He made this abundantly clear at his press conferences. Of course the next coaching hire, Rex Ryan, also was not an analytics guys either It made many wonder “what the hell are the analytic guys doing, if they aren’t that involved with coaches.” Then a journalist asked Russ and he basically said they were involved with providing analytics for ticket sales on the business side of things. This was the opposite of what Russ spoke of on New Year’s Day. I remember being very annoyed, because again, it was another interesting idea that the organization botched....yet again. Im not blaming Russ because who knows what happened, but man, another idea that didn’t nearly live up to its hype. So I am all in favor of Beane building a new analytics department. There was no reason for the department to be housed until football operations if they had little impact on the on field product. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/25/bills-axe-analytics-staff/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Once I saw Marrone's game management decisions, I knew the "analytics department" was a hoax. . I blame Russ. "Analytics! We're cutting edge! lol Just kidding, you guys, it's just for ticket sales lol" Edited January 25, 2018 by Wayne Arnold 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Once I saw Marrone's game management decisions, I knew the "analytics department" was a hoax. . I blame Russ. "Analytics! We're cutting edge! lol" Right from the start it seemed bizarre to hire a coach that was anything but analytics-driven. I think his intentions were good and he was trying be cutting edge, but in the end it really was a hoax, as you put it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Once I saw Marrone's game management decisions, I knew the "analytics department" was a hoax. . I blame Russ. "Analytics! We're cutting edge! lol Just kidding, you guys, it's just for ticket sales lol" I don't think Bills fans buy tickets because they're stupid and easily duped. We're as smart of a fan base as any. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Too bad Russ has not been canned yet... Or, tarred and feathered by Bills' fans. I swear, that guy has dirt on someone. Or, he is an insanely good ass-suck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 This sort of thing represents the old Bills, the middling, crap organization that always half-assed it and achieved little in success for its history, save the glorious time around the Superbowl years. I genuinely believe all that stuff is finally behind us and we are now a much more professionally run organization, by people who get it. I still say things are looking up and, in fact, have not looked this good in a generation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: Once I saw Marrone's game management decisions, I knew the "analytics department" was a hoax. . I blame Russ. "Analytics! We're cutting edge! lol Just kidding, you guys, it's just for ticket sales lol" Tell me Russ Brandon doesn't remind you of that creepy overzealous car salesman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: This sort of thing represents the old Bills, the middling, crap organization that always half-assed it and achieved little in success for its history, save the glorious time around the Superbowl years. I genuinely believe all that stuff is finally behind us and we are now a much more professionally run organization, by people who get it. I still say things are looking up and, in fact, have not looked this good in a generation. Preach it. I feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Analytics are great for games like baseball, where you can keep track of in-depth stats like how a particular batter does against left-handed pitchers or a certain type of pitch. So much of football isn't quantifiable. There are no stats as to whether a receiver ran the correct route on a play or whether a DB blew a coverage or was supposed to get safety help, for example. Others are misleading, such as interceptions or quarterback ratings (interceptions may or may not be the QBs fault, and ratings are only useful to generate a general estimate of efficiency over a long period of time.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: Analytics are great for games like baseball, where you can keep track of in-depth stats like how a particular batter does against left-handed pitchers or a certain type of pitch. So much of football isn't quantifiable. There are no stats as to whether a receiver ran the correct route on a play or whether a DB blew a coverage or was supposed to get safety help, for example. Others are misleading, such as interceptions or quarterback ratings (interceptions may or may not be the QBs fault, and ratings are only useful to generate a general estimate of efficiency over a long period of time.) The tape doesn't lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Tell me Russ Brandon doesn't remind you of that creepy overzealous car salesman. I think he looks like that Joel whatever, the creepy TV evangelist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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