K-9 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Has Rosen even declared yet? He might not. He should. He’s the highest rated QB prospect at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, K-9 said: He should. He’s the highest rated QB prospect at the moment. Yeah but the Browns might take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 LOL at anyone who thinks Case Keenum finally "got it" this year. He's a career backup who ran hot on the right team. Remember Nick Foles? Remember Matt Cassell? And going from TT to Alex Smith is a sideways move, at best. What's wrong with keeping Taylor one more year - he'll have familiarity with the schemes and other players. He can then be the mentor to our "QB of the future. Just please god, don't draft Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, K-9 said: I just remembered something about Barkley. He was one of those talking head darlings who were insistant that he was a gonna be a high pick after his junior year. I had heard differently that scouts weren’t enamored with his arm and athletic ability. I think he would have fallen if he had come out early, anyway. Maybe not to the fourth round, but he still would have gone after the likes of Locker, Gabberrt, and Kaepernick. Then again, Ponder was a first rounder, so who knows. Remember when the Bills fired Andre Reed as a team spokesman after he tweeted out the Bills' love for (and intent to take) Ponder right before the draft? The Vikings jumped on him, and IIRC the team blamed Reed for spilling the beans. He was canned immediately after the draft. In retrospect, he performed a great service to the organization. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 It's been said since before the season even started that Darnold was leaning on returning to USC. The expectations on him this season were high, I can't imagine what they'll be for 2018. For some, anything less than the greatest season in all of sports ever won't be enough. Doesn't seem like Rosen has the type of character and attitude McDermott and Beane want in the locker room. And if he doesn't have a real high passion for the game that's another red flag for the Bills because they've made it clear that they want team-first players with a do your job mentality and a strong desire to win. I think Mason Rudolph fits what they're looking for at QB. Not saying he's my favorite QB coming up this year but he has some talent and some things to work with. He's experienced, from all things I've read he's been viewed as a good leader at OK State and his size fits the description of what Beane said earlier in the year. This is the second or third time I've seen Mike White linked with the Bills. Other than that, I haven't read or heard of any other team that seems to have a real high grade on him. He kinda strikes me as a solid backup kind of player but I guess that depends on the kind of offense this team plans to run if they move on from Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Remember when the Bills fired Andre Reed as a team spokesman after he tweeted out the Bills' love for (and intent to take) Ponder right before the draft? The Vikings jumped on him, and IIRC the team blamed Reed for spilling the beans. He was canned immediately after the draft. In retrospect, he performed a great service to the organization. Does Andre have a house in Dunkirk? PS - that is a massive indictment of the organization to rank him that highly, which was followed by the domino logic of selecting EJ, who was clearly better than Ponder. Edited January 3, 2018 by GG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Doc said: Has Rosen even declared yet? He might not. Have I declared what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 If QB's are backing out best bet is to keep Tyrod & Petermen and draft all Defensive front seven in 1st two rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East TX Dan Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said: Dunkirk Don said Bills would love to sign Case if our deal falls through with acquiring Alex Smith falls through. DUNKIRK DON SAID THAT?!?! Are you sure it wasn't you? Little DonChad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I'd be a bit frustrated if Jackson and Darnold stay in school. It would probably mean none of the top QBs fall into range for us to trade up for. I agree in that scenario it might be best to wait another year which is disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Darnold is staying at USC. I know this for a fact. And if you don’t believe me, ask my source. Orange County Oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Dummies, Grab that cash before a lineman breaks your legs. I agree and/or the draft stock slides...aka Jake Locker or Jimmy Claussen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I hope Mike White isnt their solution to the QB question. GET THAT DEAL DONE FOR ROSEN OBD Don't worry. The Patriots will take him with their first round pick. Here's Mike White................ Edited January 3, 2018 by PIZ More info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducej11 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Chadwick Bay Chad said: Dunkirk Don said Bills would love to sign Case if our deal falls through with acquiring Alex Smith falls through. Did you seriously just quote yourself? That is a bit strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, K-9 said: As I mentioned during that game, his performance vs. OSU won’t budge the needle on Darnold one way or the other. Perhaps to the draftniks you mentioned, but not to anyone paid by NFL teams to evaluate him as a prospect. As for him going back to school, if he does that because he loves the college experience, etc. then more power to him. If he’s doing it to improve his draft stock for next year, it’s a mistake. He won’t be any better or worse than the top five prospect he is now. We will have to agree to disagree on this. Think the scouts saw what defensive pressure will do to his game. Needs to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, K-9 said: As I mentioned during that game, his performance vs. OSU won’t budge the needle on Darnold one way or the other. Perhaps to the draftniks you mentioned, but not to anyone paid by NFL teams to evaluate him as a prospect. As for him going back to school, if he does that because he loves the college experience, etc. then more power to him. If he’s doing it to improve his draft stock for next year, it’s a mistake. He won’t be any better or worse than the top five prospect he is now. IMO going back to school puts more pressure on his play than going #1 would. Only reason he goes back to school is if his estimated draft status was 2 rd. I think alot of teams would pick him in the first rd and probably top 15. History has never favored a Qb going back to school especially USC Qbs. Would you rather be Marck Sanchez or Leinhart and Barkley? He will need to play near perfect be in contention for the Heisman and National Championship to even meet expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Jackson is 100% right to return to school. He needs another big step forward for me to get from projection to player at the next level. Darnold should come out now. How many guys have a slightly disappointing year, go back to school and suddenly turn it around? Darnold is fools gold...IMO, any team drafting him with the thought that he will start immediately (with success) will be setting their franchise back years. He has been pushed into the limelight due to a great game in the Rose Bowl against Penn St last year. He had a decent 2016 season and a better bowl game that had scouts & some fan thinking that he was trending upward. This year pretty much shows some growth but much improvement is still needed to become a franchise level QB. He has to clean up on his throwing mechanics and protect the ball better to reach this level. He is no where near ready for the NFL. https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/sam-darnold-player-stats Smart move Sam Darnold stay in school and keep developing your skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: LOL at anyone who thinks Case Keenum finally "got it" this year. He's a career backup who ran hot on the right team. Remember Nick Foles? Remember Matt Cassell? And going from TT to Alex Smith is a sideways move, at best. What's wrong with keeping Taylor one more year - he'll have familiarity with the schemes and other players. He can then be the mentor to our "QB of the future. Just please god, don't draft Allen. To believe that going to Alex Smith from TT is a lateral move is just so fundamentally wrong. Smith is a quantum leap or 2 better! The existing actuarial data proves this without rational debate. I’d love to have Smith here next year. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Updated draft if top QB's back out. Bills retain Tyrod until end of 2018. 1st Round Maurice Hurst DT Michigan 1st Round Micah Kiser LB Virginia 2nd Round Martinas Rankin OT Mississippi ST 2nd Round Marcell Ateman WR Oklahoma St 3rd Round Luke Falk QB Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: To believe that going to Alex Smith from TT is a lateral move is just so fundamentally wrong. Smith is a quantum leap or 2 better! The existing actuarial data proves this without rational debate. I’d love to have Smith here next year. Wow! lol no it doesn't. He's fine, but he's not 2x better than Tyrod. Smith is having a career year because of his ridiculous supporting staff. They're amazing. Edited January 3, 2018 by Domdab99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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